[Closed] Boston Marathon bomber sentenced to death

Not sure the American judicial system has a sense of irony, or particularly gives a shit.

Scum, I'd pull the trigger if they'd let me.

Scum, I'd pull the trigger if they'd let me.

I bet you wouldn't.

I think they'd suffer more in general population in an American prison.

They should feed him bacon and pork first then see if his "heaven" will accept him for being a porky lover. Bacon taste good. Pork chop taste nice.

Really bacon and pork as an experiment then see his reaction by reading the verse back to him about pork prohibition. 😆

I bet I ****in would

Meh. There's more important things in life to not worry about.

I was alluding to him being force fed meat. Not necessarily pork.

toppers3933 - Member

I was alluding to him being force fed meat. Not necessarily pork.

No. It must be pork. He must know he is eating pork then read the verse back to him regarding pork then get him to consume it. Nothing but pork. They can be as "holy" or as strict as they want but once pork is knowingly consume they are dirty ... no longer accepted by the "virgins".

Pork is good. I love bacon and pork chop ... 😈

Death penalty is never a good thing.

Coyote - Member

Death penalty is never a good thing.

It's a closure nothing bad or good.

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Death penalty is never a good thing.

+1

Death is the easy way out.

Death penalty is never a good thing.

I dont think its supposed to be.

Saw the statement on the news from the US attorney saying "it was a triumph of the American legal system"

I wouldn't exactly agree that someone being killed is a legal triumph (regardless of what he has done)

Wonder if he got a fair trial.

The feeding a muslim bacon as punishment attitude is a disgrace. No wonder there are extremists...

Feed him bacon and get him drunk then

wanmankylung - Member

Wonder if he got a fair trial.

The feeding a muslim bacon as punishment attitude is a disgrace. No wonder there are extremists...

There are already extremists without needing others' help.

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Edric 64 - Member

Feed him bacon and get him drunk then

A good suggestion but what alcohol would that be?

Actually alcohol is not as "lethal" as pork if I can recall.

Is this feeding him bacon/pork
Some weird injoke?

paulosoxo - Member

Is this feeding him bacon/pork
Some weird injoke?

It can be a weird joke but you can try that out to see what sort of reaction you get ... try it. 😛

Some hideous responses on this thread, especially about feeding him bacon / pork / alcohol.

Surely a mark of civilisation is how we treat those who have done wrong (and he certainly has done wrong) but 'an eye for an eye' is not the way forward.

paulosoxo - Member
Is this feeding him bacon/pork
Some weird injoke?

JulianA - Member

Some hideous responses on this thread, especially about feeding him bacon / pork / alcohol.

Surely a mark of civilisation is how we treat those who have done wrong (and he certainly has done wrong) but 'an eye for an eye' is not the way forward.

Feeding him pork or bacon is not an eye for an eye. His belief is to murder others in cold blood so you are just "rehabilitating" his belief by feeding him good pork/bacon. He must be released from his own mind before he make peace with himself. Pork is the way to go. If you do not break his belief what rehabilitation have you done? Nothing. He belief is intact yet he sees that he has done nothing but right ...

When you rehabilitate someone what do you do? You "re-educate" them by changing their belief or behaviour whatever ... is that not? In this case shocking him to the realisation, if it works, does that not mean you help him to see things differently?

An eye for an eye would mean slow death with maximum pain.

The death penalty he is going to get is a compassion for him. They should know that compassion has been showed to him with a quick death.

Just like the slaughter of animal where you stunt them first before you bleed them to death all in the name of compassion or the quick cut to the throat with a prayer.

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Surely a mark of civilisation is how we treat those who have done wrong (and he certainly has done wrong) but 'an eye for an eye' is not the way forward.

Precisely. Capital punishment is a symptom of a violent society, not a cure.

Chewkw you are an illiterate fwkwt. Your post makes no sense and I suggest that you decist now. I respect your right to an opinion but suggest that you exercise it wisely.

JulianA - Member

Chewkw you are an illiterate fwkwt. Your post makes no sense and I suggest that you decist now. I respect your right to an opinion but suggest that you exercise it wisely.

Very simple. His belief is murder others in cold blood because that's what he was being radicalised for.

Now if you do not counter that belief does that mean you agree with him? There is almighty creation god that told him to murder others?

Yes, feeding pork is against his belief but will not harm him physically in anyway or form. You are merely showing him that pork will not cause him harm or harm him other than trying to get him to realise that his belief might be wrong so getting him to realise his own doing.

Since you lot are always saying the belief is not rational then countering that belief to make is rational surely is the correct way?

Sometimes I think you lot are rational for vanity sake ... very inconsistent. Be rational.

Okay, say he does not face capital punishment can we reasonably feed him pork to get him to realise that there is not such thing as god but science?

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Yes, feeding pork is against his belief but will not harm him physically in anyway or form. You are merely showing him that pork will not cause him harm and if pork cannot cause him harm then his other belief might be wrong so getting him to realise his own doing.

Do you seriously think that muslims/jews don't eat pork because they think it will harm them while their mate sits next to them shovelling down a bacon sandwich?

They choose not to because of their beleifs not because they think they will explode if they eat it... just like this whole idiotic shitstorm abour burying pigs in places where they want to build mosques as if pigs are like kryptonite to muslims or something...

wiggles - Member
Do you seriously think that muslims/jews don't eat pork because they think it will harm them while their mate sits next to them shovelling down a bacon sandwich?

The moderate ones will sit with you or even sample them without being seen if you keep quiet. The extreme ones will not even go into the place that serve pork let alone sitting next to you while you enjoy your bacon. Try the theory out yourself.

They choose not to because of their beleifs not because they think they will explode if they eat it... just like this whole idiotic shitstorm abour burying pigs in places where they want to build mosques as if pigs are like kryptonite to muslims or something...

Yes, they choose not to because of their belief but some will go to the extreme in their interpretation that's the different.

Force feeding someone pork as "rehabilitation" is utterly purile.
I don't agree with the death penalty but completely sympathise with bereived that might. The decision should not be theirs though.
I have no problems about paying to keep someone in prison for their life, even if that means paying for a TV and PS4. I am sure not many would wish to spend their lives in this manner.

athgray - Member

Force feeding someone pork as "rehabilitation" is utterly purile.

Let say [b]no[/b] force feeding other than that's what is available when it comes to feeding everyone in the prison.

Say the prison budget only allow pork then the rational is to treat everyone equal with no special treatment is that not so?

Oh, yeah and make sure you paper the walls with images of Mohammed. That'd be super-awesome and show them who won.

/Chewkw

If someone's been a **** you can lock them up, you don't have to try and find every childish thing you think would annoy them. 🙄

Was is not Fyodor Dostoyevsky who said: "The degree of civilisation in a society is revealed by entering its prisons?

Chwkw, I have changed my mind. You are not only illiterate: you are irrational, ignorant and incapable of stringing a coherent sentence together and should not be allowed out.

Thee fish - I'm glad someone agrees.

johnnystorm - Member

Oh, yeah and make sure you paper the walls with images of Mohammed. That'd be super-awesome and show them who won.

Their prophet has nothing to do with this individual action other than this person interpreted it at will ...

If someone's been a **** you can lock them up, you don't have to try and find every childish thing you think would annoy them.

Well, childish as you might think but it is because of his childish mindless act that caused so many sorrow and lives. If you do not wake him up then you have done nothing but to condone his action. i.e. his belief is right and that the society thinks differently but he could justify his action.

JulianA - Member

Chwkw, I have changed my mind. You are not only illiterate: you are irrational, ignorant and incapable of stringing a coherent sentence together and should not be allowed out.

Thee fish - I'm glad someone agrees.

Like I said before you are inconsistent with your "rationality".

Don't feed the trolls (bacon).

Chewkw
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Let's all stop feeding the ignorant fwkwt troll.

konabunny - Member

Don't feed the trolls (bacon).

Bacon is good. I like!

jekkyl - Member

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Say the prison budget only allow pork then the rational is to treat everyone equal with no special treatment is that not so?

athgray - Member

Say the prison budget only allow pork then the rational is to treat everyone equal with no special treatment is that not so?

I don't know about the global cost of meat, however is there a dystopian future on the horizon where bacon becomes the only cost effective meat available?

There is a distinct possibility after chicken.

If you go to supermarket pork is cheaper than beef and lamb but slightly more than chicken.

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So chicken is available then? Pesumably fish also? Tuna and sardines perhaps? If we assume though that the oceans dry up, and an ELE drives chicken to the fossil records, and other meat becomes too expensive then I suppose a suitable vegetarian option should be put forward.

athgray - Member

So chicken is available then? Pesumably fish also? Tuna and sardines perhaps? If we assume though that the oceans dry up, and an ELE drives chicken to the fossil records, and other meat becomes too expensive then I suppose a suitable vegetarian option should be put forward.

Chicken is available but if you eat it too often you will die ... you know those killer bacteria that comes with chicken ...

Nahhh ... fish is too expensive. Tuna not environmental friendly but what the hell do you lot like canned tuna I don't know. That thing is disgusting. Sardines is fine but like chicken you will get bored with it if you eat them often and besides sardine is meant for other larger sea creatures to eat so don't compete with them or they starved.

Vegetarian is fine so long as you feed them boiled cabbages. See how long they last before they puke.

I'm pretty moderate, but the world can do without the likes of Tsarnaev.

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"The 8-year-old boy killed in the Boston Marathon bombing appeared to reach for his mother in the final, grueling moments of his life, court testimony revealed Thursday.

Footage from the terror attack shows a small blurry figure, believed to be young Martin Richard, raising his hands right after the second blast near the marathon’s finish line, Boston.com reported. The harrowing video, which had already been shown in the court, was used again Thursday, the final day of prosecutors’ arguments against convicted bomber Dzokhar Tsarnaev.

Richard, who was standing less than four feet from a bomb, was the youngest of the three people killed in the attack that also injured more than 260. A trauma surgeon from Massachusetts General Hospital who previously testified in the trial said Martin most likely suffered severe pain in the last moments of his life.

Survivor Stephen Woolfenden, the prosecution’s final witness, said he saw Richard’s eyes “rolled back in his head” after the explosions and put his hand on the back of the boy’s mother, Denise, to comfort her."

Hard labour for 20 years then the death penalty if not rehabilitated.

Revenge or punishment?

Difficult to say after reading the above, poor lad and yes if it was our child we'd want the worst possible punishment but death?

Is the prisoner insane?

Can of worms.

Hopefully they'll botch his execution and he'll suffer a prolonged and agonising death.

Trails that involve the likelihood of the death penalty are by their very nature the ones where the crimes are most harrowing. It was awful to read the account of that poor young lad, how horrific and terrifying his final moments must have been.

Still don't believe in the death penalty, and only 20% of the people that live in Boston believe in it either. My hopes are that this is overturned and he spends a long time reflecting on his life in a small locked room far away from the rest of civilisation.

enfht - Member
Hopefully they'll botch his execution and he'll suffer a prolonged and agonising death.

This makes you as bad as the bomber. Utterly foul.

Blood eagle. Far more elegant

Hopefully they'll botch his execution and he'll suffer a prolonged and agonising death.

The 8-year-old boy killed in the Boston Marathon bombing...

You've been nobbled by the prosecution, Ben.

Can of worms.

We'd need to check with chewkw where that would sit in the cost/ant-religion effectiveness table. Is a can of worms more or less than bacon/pork? Less than turkey but more than chicken?

This makes you as bad as the bomber

Yes dear, you're quite right.

"killing people is bad. Anyone who does it should be killed"

Way to go U.S.A. 🙄

"killing people is bad. Anyone who does it should be killed"

Way to go U.S.A.

Way to go everyone. 🙄

Three_Fish - Member

Can of worms.

We'd need to check with chewkw where that would sit in the cost/ant-religion effectiveness table. Is a can of worms more or less than bacon/pork? Less than turkey but more than chicken?

Nahhh ... You are being cruel to the birds and animals by feeding him precious worm. He is not worth the can of worms to be honest. Turkey? In his dream.

Pork or bacon is better but you can always feed him pork rind first to let him know the power of pork rind. This is to show him heaven is pork rind on earth!

I love pork rind me.

I'd rather die than spend the rest of my life in one of those super max prisons.

Will he be served pudding with his last meal ?

zippykona - Member
I'd rather die than spend the rest of my life in one of those super max prisons.

cheekyboy - Member
Will he be served pudding with his last meal ?

An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.

Doesn't matter how hideous the crime, there's no place for the death penalty in a civilised society.

wanmankylung - Member
An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.

I keep hearing this 'an eye for an eye thing ...'

How can everyone get blinded if they have one eye left? Really.

Also do you always go for the eye? Can't you go for an arm for a leg vice versa?

Furthermore how can everyone(who is not involved) get blinded if s/he is not involved?

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Some of the comments on this thread scare me quite a bit.

Some people do horrible things. The rest of us need to be better than that.

This is correct:

Doesn't matter how hideous the crime, there's no place for the death penalty in a civilised society.

I read this rather concerning line on the BBC site.

The jurors were chosen, however, because they said they would be willing to consider the death penalty.

Doesn't really seem like a fair trial to me if that comment is accurate.

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Whenever I see a post by chewk on a thread I have to stop reading the thread. The illiterate, unintelligible dribble just destroys any meaningful discourse.

wanmankylung - Member

muddydwarf - Member
Whenever I see a post by chewk on a thread I have to stop reading the thread. The illiterate, unintelligible dribble just destroys any meaningful discourse.

😆 I am merely providing alternative views isn't that part of a discourse?

Okay folks I have just been warned by the mod(s) regarding my comments so I shall comply.

I shall leave this thread in your good hands now so over to you.

If you are hurt by my comments then my apology.

Cheerio

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Doesn't really seem like a fair trial to me if that comment is accurate.

Banning isnt good enough for him can the mods not force him to spend a day in a mosque praying andcthe execute him?

Death penalty has, and will always divide opinion.

anagallis_arvensis - Member

Banning isnt good enough for him can the mods not force him to spend a day in a mosque praying andcthe execute him?

If my comments have hurt your feelings then please accept my apology.

Apology accepted.

Death penalty has, and will always divide opinion.

At least for as long as there are moral hypocrites.

Peoples morals may not align with your own, but it doesn't make either arguement favourable

I've got no respect for a judicial system that deals in revenge killings.

Say the prison budget only allow pork then the rational is to treat everyone equal with no special treatment is that not so?

Don't know myself about US prisons but do any of you know what the UK prison budget is for food, per prisoner, per day?

Go on have a guess, nearest gets a bacon sandwich. 😉

& by the way, I believe in the death penalty for such hideous atrocities as this.

I hope whatever it is, it excludes pudding.

esselgruntfuttock - Member
Don't know myself about US prisons but do any of you know what the UK prison budget is for food, per prisoner, per day?

Go on have a guess, nearest gets a bacon sandwich.

& by the way, I believe in the death penalty for such hideous atrocities as this.

I would guess [b]£1.50 to £2.00 max.[/b] It would be silly if they spend more.

My food bill is £20 per week (7 days) and this include meat, veg, bread, fruits and fish but exclude pork rind ... 🙁 (well I only pork rind every other week )

Now my food bill will go down further once I have perfected my veg fermentation ... Korean style.

If I win I don't want bacon sandwish ... you can send me a cheque for £2.50 for Polish smoked fish or I can get a bag of pork rind.

Peoples morals may not align with your own, but it doesn't make either arguement favourable

That's not really what's being discussed, though. You've omitted to consider the hypocrisy of the situation:

...one may not take the life of a person. The punishment for people who do this is for us (society) to take the life of that person.

It's 'do as I say not as I do'. It's hypocrisy. It's also a sign that the society who makes the law is singularly violent in its resolution of moral judgements, which is exactly what the perpetrator of the Boston bomb was. As P-Jay says, it's really little more than a revenge killing and shows that the 'society' that carried it out is both philosophically retarded and impotent. No surprise it's so angry, then! In killing Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the US is simply (in a rather complex way) reaffirming the components that are desirable in constructing their social fabric; the blanket that 'it' wishes its constituents to live under.

The jurors were chosen, however, because they said they would be willing to consider the death penalty.

Maybe they all secretly oppose the death penalty. If I was asked to be a juror I'd definitely lie to be able to possibly save a life.

EDIT: what am I talking about, he [i]was[/i] condemned. D'oh.

...one may not take the life of a person. The punishment for people who do this is for us (society) to take the life of that person.

You have missed out quite an important bit.

The bit about killing random innocent people by bombing a crowd.

You don't have to be morally hypocritical to believe in the death penalty as you claimed. You just need to be able to see the difference between two entirely different types of situation.

You don't seem capable of doing that, possibly because it suits your personal views to miss the obvious difference.

I hope whatever it is, it excludes pudding.

Actually includes pudding (& a 'tea pack' which consists of a bag of cereal, some tea bags, sugar, whitener & a small carton of UHT milk)