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Trails that involve the likelihood of the death penalty are by their very nature the ones where the crimes are most harrowing. It was awful to read the account of that poor young lad, how horrific and terrifying his final moments must have been.
Still don't believe in the death penalty, and only 20% of the people that live in Boston believe in it either. My hopes are that this is overturned and he spends a long time reflecting on his life in a small locked room far away from the rest of civilisation.
enfht - Member
Hopefully they'll botch his execution and he'll suffer a prolonged and agonising death.
This makes you as bad as the bomber. Utterly foul.
Blood eagle. Far more elegant
Hopefully they'll botch his execution and he'll suffer a prolonged and agonising death.
Why do you hope for that?
The 8-year-old boy killed in the Boston Marathon bombing...
You've been nobbled by the prosecution, Ben.
Can of worms.
We'd need to check with chewkw where that would sit in the cost/ant-religion effectiveness table. Is a can of worms more or less than bacon/pork? Less than turkey but more than chicken?
This makes you as bad as the bomber
Yes dear, you're quite right.
"killing people is bad. Anyone who does it should be killed"
Way to go U.S.A. 🙄
"killing people is bad. Anyone who does it should be killed"Way to go U.S.A.
"Imprisoning people is bad. Anyone who does it should be imprisoned.
Way to go everyone. 🙄
Three_Fish - Member
Can of worms.We'd need to check with chewkw where that would sit in the cost/ant-religion effectiveness table. Is a can of worms more or less than bacon/pork? Less than turkey but more than chicken?
Nahhh ... You are being cruel to the birds and animals by feeding him precious worm. He is not worth the can of worms to be honest. Turkey? In his dream.
Pork or bacon is better but you can always feed him pork rind first to let him know the power of pork rind. This is to show him heaven is pork rind on earth!
I love pork rind me.
I'd rather die than spend the rest of my life in one of those super max prisons.
Will he be served pudding with his last meal ?
zippykona - Member
I'd rather die than spend the rest of my life in one of those super max prisons.
I was watching the documentaries on those on life sentence behind bars but somehow they seem to manage to endure their time there and very determine too ...
cheekyboy - Member
Will he be served pudding with his last meal ?
You need to check the ingredient first ...
Also unless he asked for that as his last meal.
An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.
Doesn't matter how hideous the crime, there's no place for the death penalty in a civilised society.
wanmankylung - Member
An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.
I keep hearing this 'an eye for an eye thing ...'
How can everyone get blinded if they have one eye left? Really.
Also do you always go for the eye? Can't you go for an arm for a leg vice versa?
Furthermore how can everyone(who is not involved) get blinded if s/he is not involved?
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Some of the comments on this thread scare me quite a bit.
Some people do horrible things. The rest of us need to be better than that.
This is correct:
Doesn't matter how hideous the crime, there's no place for the death penalty in a civilised society.
Whenever I see a post by chewk on a thread I have to stop reading the thread. The illiterate, unintelligible dribble just destroys any meaningful discourse.
wanmankylung - Member
My colleage who is highly intelligent wants UK to be part of the "53 states" which puzzle me coz he is from London.
muddydwarf - Member
Whenever I see a post by chewk on a thread I have to stop reading the thread. The illiterate, unintelligible dribble just destroys any meaningful discourse.
😆 I am merely providing alternative views isn't that part of a discourse?
Okay folks I have just been warned by the mod(s) regarding my comments so I shall comply.
I shall leave this thread in your good hands now so over to you.
If you are hurt by my comments then my apology.
Cheerio
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Doesn't really seem like a fair trial to me if that comment is accurate.
Jury selection. Those who object to the death penalty per se will be objected to by the prosecution. San outrage.
Banning isnt good enough for him can the mods not force him to spend a day in a mosque praying andcthe execute him?
Death penalty has, and will always divide opinion.
anagallis_arvensis - MemberBanning isnt good enough for him can the mods not force him to spend a day in a mosque praying andcthe execute him?
If my comments have hurt your feelings then please accept my apology.
Apology accepted.
Death penalty has, and will always divide opinion.
At least for as long as there are moral hypocrites.
Peoples morals may not align with your own, but it doesn't make either arguement favourable
I've got no respect for a judicial system that deals in revenge killings.
Say the prison budget only allow pork then the rational is to treat everyone equal with no special treatment is that not so?
Don't know myself about US prisons but do any of you know what the UK prison budget is for food, per prisoner, per day?
Go on have a guess, nearest gets a bacon sandwich. 😉
& by the way, I believe in the death penalty for such hideous atrocities as this.
I hope whatever it is, it excludes pudding.
esselgruntfuttock - Member
Don't know myself about US prisons but do any of you know what the UK prison budget is for food, per prisoner, per day?Go on have a guess, nearest gets a bacon sandwich.
& by the way, I believe in the death penalty for such hideous atrocities as this.
I would guess [b]£1.50 to £2.00 max.[/b] It would be silly if they spend more.
My food bill is £20 per week (7 days) and this include meat, veg, bread, fruits and fish but exclude pork rind ... 🙁 (well I only pork rind every other week
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Now my food bill will go down further once I have perfected my veg fermentation ... Korean style.
If I win I don't want bacon sandwish ... you can send me a cheque for £2.50 for Polish smoked fish or I can get a bag of pork rind.
Peoples morals may not align with your own, but it doesn't make either arguement favourable
That's not really what's being discussed, though. You've omitted to consider the hypocrisy of the situation:
...one may not take the life of a person. The punishment for people who do this is for us (society) to take the life of that person.
It's 'do as I say not as I do'. It's hypocrisy. It's also a sign that the society who makes the law is singularly violent in its resolution of moral judgements, which is exactly what the perpetrator of the Boston bomb was. As P-Jay says, it's really little more than a revenge killing and shows that the 'society' that carried it out is both philosophically retarded and impotent. No surprise it's so angry, then! In killing Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the US is simply (in a rather complex way) reaffirming the components that are desirable in constructing their social fabric; the blanket that 'it' wishes its constituents to live under.
The jurors were chosen, however, because they said they would be willing to consider the death penalty.
Maybe they all secretly oppose the death penalty. If I was asked to be a juror I'd definitely lie to be able to possibly save a life.
EDIT: what am I talking about, he [i]was[/i] condemned. D'oh.
...one may not take the life of a person. The punishment for people who do this is for us (society) to take the life of that person.
You have missed out quite an important bit.
The bit about killing random innocent people by bombing a crowd.
You don't have to be morally hypocritical to believe in the death penalty as you claimed. You just need to be able to see the difference between two entirely different types of situation.
You don't seem capable of doing that, possibly because it suits your personal views to miss the obvious difference.
I hope whatever it is, it excludes pudding.
Actually includes pudding (& a 'tea pack' which consists of a bag of cereal, some tea bags, sugar, whitener & a small carton of UHT milk)
You don't seem capable of doing that, possibly because it suits your personal views to miss the obvious difference.
I don't seem capable? You're fond of yourself; aren't you?
You just need to be able to see the difference between two entirely different types situation.
It goes a bit deeper, but keep trying, you'll get there. Think also of the 'entirely' identical parts...
I don't seem capable?
Well it's either that, or you ignored it on purpose to suit your argument
Think also of the 'entirely' identical parts...
The situations are entirely different.
They have the same end point. But the way there is [b]entirely[/b] different.
Good result.
As others have said, there is a world of difference between bombing a crowd looking to inflict as much terror, pain and suffering on innocent people....and passing the death penalty as punishment/revenge for that crime....it seems fair and apt given what he did.
He has no role to play in society, why waste money and resources keeping it alive?
It costs more money to execute than to imprison for life without parole.
Good result.
The unnecessary taking of another life can never be a 'good result' Just shows that we have dropped to their standards.
He has no role to play in society, why waste money and resources keeping it alive?
It? (Possibly a Freudian slip there...)
Anyhow, there are plenty of criminals who committed "lesser" crimes who'll be spending the majority of their lives in prison, and for all intents and purposes, have no role to play in society. Should we murder all of them too?
Just to be clear, I don't agree with the death penalty personally.
But I can see why people do, without labelling them them as "morally hypocritical" or "philosophically retarded and impotent"
I just don't think it works (Mistakes can't be rectified, not an effective deterrent... etc)
And as such, it's pointless.
Muddydwarf....if that's the case they need to find a cheaper way to execute prisoners.
Passing the death sentence in response to a crime is not sinking to the same standards as the murderer.
re. It. No Freudian slip there, it stopped being human when it committed those killings and maimings.
Regarding other prisoners who may never leave the prison system and issuing the desth sentence. For murder?....absolutely. Career criminals?....nope, even I can see that's a bit harsh.
Aren't opinions great?....some of us can even express them without throwing insults at those we disagree with.
Glad he received the death penalty although I fear it will be commuted to life without parole, a poor compromise in this case
As an aside the feeding him pork/bacon etc how do we know he eats only Halal food, he could well eat those as a matter of course
Also US special forces have killed a senior ISIS commander with a ground operation in Syria and taken his wife to Iraq I imagine for interrogation.
For murder?....absolutely.
Yeah, as we all know, juries never get it wrong do they?
even I...
Even you, eh? Jolly decent of you.
Btw, at which degree of murder would you be happy to kill/not kill them...any? Just get rid of them all?
