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The choice for the electorate?- Johnson or Corbyn… Not an attractive proposition which ever way you look at it.

And that's the trappings of a RW press.

The evidence of Boris Johnson and the Tories has always been foreshadowed. 10 years of failed and mismanaged economics tells you everything you need to know.

We have a new leader for Labour by the way. Not sure what he's bringing to the party. Any ideas? A functioning opposition they said.

The polls aren't reflecting this.

Labour is a mess and should be all over this government. It was never about Corbyn really. The politics are more easily crushed if you place the blame on personality. That's what was done.

The public lapped it up and now they get the government they deserve.


 
Posted : 27/08/2020 1:01 pm
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Turning up late protects you from questions, lets you get over your hangover, suggests you're forever in demand, that your time is more important than theirs and it's a distraction eg Cummings making the cameras wait 35 minutes before delivering his fantastical statement. Johnson made himself scarce at the last Tory conference, it creates an enigma and a scrum to get his attention but now we understand that partly it was because he had no ideas to share.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/rule-britannia-bbc-proms_uk_5f466680c5b6cf66b2b14339

Q1: what unsackable job would allow me to dab on, collect £300pd plus costs, wait with intent for half an hour and then go down to my St James's club and blow my exes?
Q2: why did Boris's brother get the job and I didn't even get an interview?


 
Posted : 27/08/2020 1:12 pm
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 I believe the Labour Party must also take some share of the blame by coming into the last election with an unelectable leader with Corbyn.

lets not get into this but thats just personal opinion, i voted for Corbyn in teh leadership elections and voted labour. The Tories have made all the decisions for years so its all on them sorry. Its like blaming a blaming a mechanic for your car not working when you're the one who put diesel in a petrol car. Its simply all their fault end of.

If you’re thinking it was deliberately stacked to favour private schools I don’t think it was,

Maybe it wasn't a conscious decision but an unconscious bias is 100% possible.

And even if it is incompetence as opposed to intent. They had weeks, even months, to run their ‘mutant’ algorithm, and see what results it gave.

This is exactly what I don't understand. At my work we ramp up traffic and check algos and plumbing to make sure its all working and wont fall over I don't get why this isnt the case here.

And further more for Boris to say it was a "mutant algo" just proves how out of touch he is with the world. He just need to sit in a fridge and never come out.


 
Posted : 27/08/2020 2:24 pm
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Cummings may be a dangerous self deluded fool when it comes to running a country, but he’s a master of 3 word slogans & stirring up those culture war issues, that galvanise RW support

Populism.

It works for people who don't like to think too much.


 
Posted : 27/08/2020 2:30 pm
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It was never about Corbyn really.

Anyways... It seems from the vox pops that are always on the news that your average voter seems to be buying Boris's bluster and bullshit and the 'we are in the midst of an unprecedented pandemic' line being trotted out by every half-witted minister, when they're allowed by Dom to say anything in public (anyone seen Priti Vacant recently?).

The question is what happens in January. This is still the calm before the storm. I don't think there's now any doubt that we're on for the hardest of No Deal/Crash out/Australia style Brexits. Joris won power (or Dom won it for him) with his promise to 'Get Brexit Done' and 'Take Back Control'.

When the 'sunlit uplands' mean the whole south-east of England is one giant lorry park and the economy goes into freefall, Joris and chums will own this mess 100%. They'll try and blame the EU, obviously, but I don't think that's going to wash with most people. Not given the sheer level of bullshit that has been trotted out for the last 4 years. So the real question is can this Brexit government survive what is going to be total chaos?


 
Posted : 27/08/2020 2:54 pm
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When the whole south-east of England is one giant lorry park and the economy goes into freefall, Joris and chums will own this mess 100%. They’ll try and blame the EU, obviously, but I don’t think that’s going to wash with most people. So the real question is can this Brexit government survive what is going to be total chaos?

Oh how I wish I agreed with you, but we've seen clearly over the past few years just how many people buy-into the "it's all the Eu's fault" narrative. Maybe it won't be most, numerically, but it'll be enough. Remember, anti-Brexit parties got most of the vote last year, but with a unified blok in favour, a fat lot of good that did us. 🙁


 
Posted : 27/08/2020 3:05 pm
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This really made me smile. Good effort!


 
Posted : 27/08/2020 3:28 pm
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enough of The public lapped it up and now they get the government they deserve.

The key, sad point, in a FPTP electoral system


 
Posted : 27/08/2020 5:16 pm
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The bookshelf made me smile but seems to be distracting from the fact that Johnson basically seemed to be having a nervous breakdown all the way through that speech.


 
Posted : 27/08/2020 5:25 pm
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Johnson basically seemed to be having a nervous breakdown all the way through that speech.

If he had a shred of conscience he would have done that already.


 
Posted : 27/08/2020 7:16 pm
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Johnson basically seemed to be having a nervous breakdown all the way through that speech.

Or perhaps his blood alcohol level dipped below the level where he is able function - or perhaps he had a cheeky extra snifter when Dom's man wasn't looking....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lIv96reVlAE


 
Posted : 28/08/2020 8:01 am
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I was thinking that Boris ‘speech’ looked somehow familiar...


 
Posted : 28/08/2020 8:51 am
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Or perhaps his blood alcohol level dipped below the level where he is able function – or perhaps he had a cheeky extra snifter when Dom’s man wasn’t looking….

He came back from Scotland with a car bootful of buckfast, the real reason for the trip,but was too squeamish for the buckfast enema. Something about Dom standing there with a lubed dripping tube and a demonic smirk. So he downed some Drambuie liqueurs instead but they were too weak and...

Any more slips ups and he'll be going full class A like Donald trump jr


 
Posted : 28/08/2020 10:38 am
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Any more slips ups and he’ll be going full class A like Donald trump jr

Or Michael Gove....


 
Posted : 28/08/2020 11:13 am
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Pie Nailing it again NSFW


 
Posted : 28/08/2020 3:05 pm
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I particularly liked "The day I start taking lessons in morality from the likes of Boris Johnson is the day I start taking the ****ing smack".

Pretty much sums it up for me.


 
Posted : 28/08/2020 4:09 pm
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Oh, and.....

"Bunch of populist cockwombles"

Trouble is, much as I find this stuff funny, I also find it depressing because come election time all it has to be is "Labour are a soft touch and will let hoardes of forriners in" and the masses will vote for them. Again.


 
Posted : 28/08/2020 4:57 pm
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^^I totally agree, though in reality they just need the usual minority (not even the masses) to vote for them, dare I call it, their base.

It's all rotten as sh*t frankly.


 
Posted : 28/08/2020 8:22 pm
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https://bylinetimes.com/2020/08/28/boris-johnson-the-anti-prime-minister/

Pretty devastating takedown of him here. The journo is the one who broke the story about BJ going round ambassadors dinners after the referendum telling European ambassadors that he was fully in favour of Freedom of Movement (in private) while basing his entire Leave campaign and his stint in the Foreign Office as being publicly very against it. When the story broke, Boris used the Sunday Telegraph to smear the journo and, because all the conversations with ambassadors were off the record, there was no proof so he got away with all his lies.


 
Posted : 29/08/2020 12:54 pm
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much as I find this stuff funny

You think it’s funny now, wait until many more of Our Own People ™ are jobless, hungry/further diminished and homeless because of this. Then the ongoing scapegoating of ‘minorities and the left’ will revisit murderous levels unseen for the better part of a century. The Tories’ recent decades of slow-grinding ‘austerity is good for you/cull the disabled/demonise the unemployed/dismantle public services/destroy trust/increase division’ will soon be remembered by comparison as slipping through sun-drenched meadows.

Once unemployment/reduction of care/further removal/defunding of mental health services reach critical tipping points then blood will flow and as ever, it won’t be the engineers of all this who get it in the neck. The tabloids and clickbait will as always provide the spin, lies and red rags. And who will they blame? Same old same old. Hello 1930’s.

80 years (a lifetime) seems just about long enough for a population to forget what Nationalistic populism and/or fascism is all about. Hypertabloidism (social media) is creating a morass of mistrust, moral malaise and the type of confusion that sends people cultwards to find something ‘solid’ to cling to. A return to fascism. So far of late the Twits and bad-actors are rewriting history. Social media/clickbait-driven independent media/conspiracy mines are places to unlearn facts and learn lies. Like wildfire. Get used to the word ‘traitor’.


 
Posted : 29/08/2020 1:55 pm
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Pretty devastating takedown of him here. 

I agree with every word, but it was a bit of a verbose way of saying that he is a lazy, arrogant, self-obsessed and ineffectual shit.


 
Posted : 29/08/2020 5:46 pm
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Get used to the word ‘traitor’.

Many a truly brave person has been labelled a traitor by a perverted 'system'.


 
Posted : 29/08/2020 6:02 pm
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Get used to the word ‘traitor’.

I’m already using it repeatedit to refer to the senior British politicians accepting donations, bribes, hospitality and sexual favours from, and giving honours to, representatives of a state which has worked hard to undermine British democratic process and has killed British citizens on British soil using a weapon of mass destruction.

Ooohhh!, you meant I’d be the traitor. Enemies of the People springs to mind.


 
Posted : 29/08/2020 7:00 pm
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lazy, arrogant, self-obsessed and ineffectual

I forgot, crass, bluff, ****less, hypocritical, cynical, opportunist and contemptuous.


 
Posted : 29/08/2020 8:54 pm
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First rumblings? Rumblings that have always been there just gaining in volume?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/aug/29/boris-johnson-faces-tory-wrath-as-party-slumps-in-shock-poll

The 1922 committee thing may well be the start of 'traditional' Tory MPs starting to get twitchy about 2021. They know full well that once No Deal is achieved and Johnson and his cronies have got their retirement pots sorted, they are going to be left owning this shitshow.

Of course, they were more than happy to ride the populist wave, no doubt hoping things might 'get back to normal' afterwards, but that was their conceit. You can't put the kind of forces Johnson et al are prepared to unleash (racism, xenophobia, intolerance) back in the bottle. Their arrogance is thinking they can control the parasite that is actually controlling them.

But, small victories and all that. At least it worries Johnson. It worries Johnson more than tens of thousands of excess covid deaths because it is a threat to his ego.


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 10:21 am
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What happened to last year's Benn Act stopping a no deal Brexit?


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 10:25 am
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IIRC that was just to stop "no withdrawal agreement" not "No deal" on future relations


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 10:35 am
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What happened to last year’s Benn Act stopping a no deal Brexit?

Wasn't it effectively a one-shot deal? The act specifically mentions 31st Oct 2019, and Joris has since convinced enough Red Wall Racists to vote for him (and against their own interests). I don't think a new Benn Act would happen now.

I may be totally misreading this.


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 10:50 am
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A good account of Joris and chums by Andrew Rawnsley in today’s Observer. It looks like the traditional Tory’s we’re prepared to stay quiet (a la Trumps republicans) while Joris was ‘winning’, but with Labour now level in the polls and Bohnsons ‘popularity’ in freefall, they’re no longer prepared to just shut up and go along with it

The Johnson method of government: total power with absolutely no responsibility

The shrewder people on the Conservative benches know that power without responsibility is a poisoned method of governing that will rebound on their party

Apparently even the morally-vacuous arch-opportunist, Gove, is now getting twitchy about the real-life implications of a No Deal Brexit


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 11:32 am
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Looks like he got into a spot a bother in Bristol Harbour

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Posted : 30/08/2020 11:43 am
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Damn, Binners just beat me to it, I’ve just finished reading that Guardian feature on Flipboard and was about to post it!


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 12:10 pm
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Apparently even the morally-vacuous arch-opportunist, Gove, is now getting twitchy about the real-life implications of a No Deal Brexit

The temptation, though, will be to go back to tried and tested methods. Double-down and blame forriners/experts/remoaners/asylum seekers etc.

The thing that illustrates this most is Gove and Johnson's faces after the referendum result came in. Writ large across their mugs was:

"Oh shit. I can't believe enough of the stupid buggers believed in this shit".

Ever since then, 'we' have exceeded their expectation of our stupidity. I imagine the likes of Gove in particular cannot really believe their luck when it comes to the sheer bovine thickness of their audience.

But they'll go to the well again and again and they'll most likely do it saying "we'll never get away with this" beforehand and "well **** me, they really more stupid than I thought" afterwards.


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 3:16 pm
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pinocchio on the crapper!


 
Posted : 31/08/2020 9:55 am
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He really is a bit of a coward

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53994162

Covid-19 Bereaved Families for Justice said it wrote to Mr Johnson five times to request a meeting.

Asked by reporters about the letters, the PM said he would "of course" meet anyone bereaved by Covid-19.

But days later he wrote to the group to say he was "unable" to meet them.


 
Posted : 02/09/2020 9:19 am
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He really is a bit of a coward

A bit?


 
Posted : 02/09/2020 10:58 am
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Talking of his cowardice, it’s the return of that one time he does have to come out from the fridge and actually answer for the shambles of the last couple of months.

I’m sure he’s really looking forward to it. Starmer must be wondering where he’s going to start? Which car crash he’s going to address first.


 
Posted : 02/09/2020 12:35 pm
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Two of the key steps that got him elected were avoiding any scrutiny whatsoever (hiding in a fridge only being the most ridiculous instance) and not being Jeremy Corbyn.

What a ****ing dire indictment of the UK.


 
Posted : 02/09/2020 1:14 pm
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Well Starmer rinsed Bojo and even the speaker had to tell Bojo to answer the question.

Rishi was visably squirming and staring at the car crash of PMQ.

I dont think anyone is preparing Bojo a defence? Against Starmers questions?


 
Posted : 02/09/2020 1:27 pm
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Opposition Q's on exams, CV19, furlough, etc.

Government MP's table questions asking Boris about I'm a celebrity being in North Wales and BBC licence fee reform

Critical issues being addressed right there......


 
Posted : 02/09/2020 2:00 pm
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Will he ever develop the ability to actually answer a question?


 
Posted : 02/09/2020 2:12 pm
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I dont think anyone is preparing Bojo a defence? Against Starmers questions?

I doubt he can remember them, probably too pissed.


 
Posted : 02/09/2020 2:15 pm
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When you’re only defence/deflection is to accuse the former DPP of being a terrorist sympathiser, you know he really is desperately flailing.

I see the government have just done another screaming u-turn even while Boris was still on his feet.

Trafford and Bolton have just been placed back under lockdown restrictions, having had them lifted about ten minutes before.

One of those constituencies is Graham Brady’s, head of the 1922 committee, who he’s got a meeting with now, and has already been quite vocal about how crap Boris is.


 
Posted : 02/09/2020 2:22 pm
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One of those constituencies is Graham Brady’s, head of the 1922 committee, who he’s got a meeting with now, and has already been quite vocal about how crap Boris is.

Where's a fridge when you need one?

😅🤣😅🤣😅


 
Posted : 02/09/2020 3:59 pm
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When you’re only defence/deflection is to accuse the former DPP of being a terrorist sympathiser, you know he really is desperately flailing.

Although the quarter-wits that make up a large part of his 'base' amongst the electorate will be told he 'landed a blow in return'.

"You spilled my pint" Britain in all its glory.


 
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