The mere fact that the word remainer is still in use is an admission that Brexit was a failure or has not in fact 'been done'.
Brexit is/was shit
Tory govts are/were shit
"New Labour" was shit - lying tossers
Tony Blair was/is shit. Lying tosser
All money-grubbing ****s.
Sorry. Bad place. This makes me ashamed to be English / British / UK-ish, but impotent to do anything so pokes my depression. Sorry.
If I had the means I'd be something else
Edit: depression is shit but it's impossible to step away from this stuff as its in your face 24/7.
"Is this thread still obsessed with brexit?"
Johnson is Brexit in offal form.
This'll cheer you up fazzini
Johnson seems to be actively trying to wreck the Tory party put of spite
https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1545454683090829312?t=8IT3Mr1thPtlsS5ZY4k-PQ&s=19
Johnson seems to be actively trying to wreck the Tory party put of spite
That would be a legacy I would applaud.
From Kimbers link 😀
https://twitter.com/rhodri/status/1111254719777914881?s=20&t=v1kM4thrMgyKn4szBGc8mA
Johnson seems to be actively trying to wreck the Tory party put of spite
That would be a legacy I would applaud.
I don't see any reason why he shouldn't if they are bunch of cowards. Not worth having politicians like that but again many will replace them again ...
I don’t see any reason why he shouldn’t if they are bunch of cowards.
Not as cowardly as Johnson
After being found out time & again, hes still to cowardly to admit when he lies
Pretty gutted I was looking forward to just how bonkers baker would be
Still Braverman will be funny!
https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1545507043506900994?t=IBTV-T2-l-iqid5LwggHmg&s=19
The government job for Andrea jenkyns is particularly offensive, trump loving binhead. She makes braverman look like Ruth bader Ginsburg
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Corrupt to the last
https://twitter.com/patrickkmaguire/status/1545446437663776768?t=ghFq-GMFcjbKxvqF-xSdjw&s=19
https://twitter.com/Direthoughts/status/1545454312154873857?t=FY1L6Rg1GbFMuoD3hyW9Ww&s=19
Pretty gutted I was looking forward to just how bonkers baker would be
Still Braverman will be funny!
I thought some people might be deeply disappointed if they saw the Tory Party swinging further to the right, based on their apparent form. But perhaps politics isn't really like that for them and it's all a bit of a laugh to be enjoyed as if it's some sort of reality team sport extravaganza. Especially if they are under the impression that the consequences are unlikely to affect them in a material way such as forcing them to go hungry to the food banks.
I certainly won't find it funny if as a consequence of Johnson's pointless stupidity people on the far right of the Tory Party are propelled to the very top. In fact I will be devastated.
But then I don't feel a desire to punish voters for being stupid and voting incorrectly, as some people apparently do - if I correctly interpret the deep distain expressed by some towards the general public.
Go on, tell us ernie, who are you rooting for?
Johnson seems to be actively trying to wreck the Tory party put of spite
I’d put money on a Johnson contact having registered a new party this week, and him officially joining it in the last week of him being PM.
ernie just comes on here to talk bollocks (like the rest of us). On Monday he's Mandelson, Tuesday he's Trotsky, Wednesday Widdecombe, Thursday Thatcher and Friday is special cos he wears his Michael Foot outfit just to keep everyone on their toes.
Im pretty sure @Binners has the copyright on that image, expect a stern letter from Lawyers IN Greggs shortly
It's somewhat ironic I suppose, that Tory MPs got want they wanted at their work by withdrawing their labour.
I’d put money on a Johnson contact having registered a new party this week, and him officially joining it in the last week of him being PM.
I was just mooching around one of the more.... different.... forums. The sort of place with plenty of turn the refugees back in the sea/deport them/cancel all foreign aid/EU are the enemy posters.
Theres certainly support for him out there, and its all the medias fault, they hounded him out if power. So I suspect hed get enough membership sign ups to make a decent amount of money.
Just read a piece from Peston that suggests that the website to pledge support/get information etc for Rishi Sunak's bid to become PM was registered last December.
Just read a piece from Peston that suggests that the website to pledge support/get information etc for Rishi Sunak’s bid to become PM was registered last December.
And to think he was drafted in by Johnson as a yes-man 🙂
Has Johnson definitely actually submitted his resignation? I know he 'said' he was going to do it in his speech, but I'm wondering whether he would delay the letter to try to push the initial part of the leadership contest past the beginning of the summer recess.
Has Johnson definitely actually submitted his resignation? I know he ‘said’ he was going to do it in his speech, but I’m wondering whether he would delay the letter to try to push the initial part of the leadership contest past the beginning of the summer recess.
As I understand it, it's out of his hands now
1922 committee set the timetable and once they've picked a new leader he's automatically fired
Hopefully they have something in writing. He's a slippery ****er.
He’s manifestly angling to still defeat his party opponents and remain as their leader.
I think this is what he’s attempting(in his head) short term but i’d be surprised if plan B isn’t to establish a new party closer to the election if he can’t over throw his opponents and remain PM within the Tory party
The problem with the tories chucking him out is that it plays to the ‘will of people’ narrative used by him to gain him the premiership.
If they’d have called an election(0% chance)rather than letting a small number of people decide the next pm then the ‘will of the people’ would not be so effective.
I don’t think BJ’s particularly worried about the Tory party they are just another thing to f*** over on his journey in life doing what he wants.
Even if his new party fails he will pocket the membership fees and carry on living his life on expenses.
Hopefully they have something in writing.
LOL
The only useful thing in having it on paper is that if you run out of Andrex you have something on hand to wipe yer arse.
International treaties and the law don’t apply here anymore.
Which will be some of the BJ land mines/booby traps the new PM will have to skilfully negotiate or not they may just run with it but more foot to the pedal.
We will just have to wait and see.
I sort of hope he stays in No10 by force and does as much damage as he can to whatever he can as it can all be laid at the feet of the Conservative Party for not removing him immediately. We need to think of the long-term picture now, making it virtually impossible for the next generation or three to even think about voting for them in the future.
Can you imagine the scenes and headlines if at the next General Election the Conservatives don't even manage to get enough seats to be the opposition? It would be amazing however very unlikely.
The problem is that Johnson playing the will of the people nonsense channels those that fall for it down the gutter into the trump/qanon conspiracy space
There's already plenty of the far-riggt, antivax, covid-denying, pre-brexit overlap
Culture war is very effective but long term it's corrosive
I can't see sunak's comment that 'tax cuts must wait' playing well with most tory mps.
Furlough support will be seen as...that was then, this is now as most people are concerned about current and future circumstances not the past.
Reports that his campsign website has been ready for months will be used against him.
Add into the mix his personal wealth which will lead to accusations that he has no understanding of the increasing financial pressures facing more and more people.
I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't make the last two.
The problem with the tories chucking him out is that it plays to the ‘will of people’ narrative used by him to gain him the premiership.
See my earlier reference to "stab in the back", Germany 1930's.
If Johnson create another party he loses a voc in the hoc and thus is no longer pm. Unless he takes enough mps to remove the tory majority the tories just pick another leader who becomes pm
BBC now quoting “Downing Street” and “Number 10” throwing shade at possible future PMs. Time for them to grow some balls and tell us WHO is saying this stuff. This deniable briefing approach needs to end. Who said it. What is their role. Why should we listen to a word they say.
Might dilute the Tory vote a bit a the next GE as Ukip once did. Be ironic if the man they thought would unite the party ends up destroying it's position in the polls.
If Johnson create another party he loses a voc in the hoc and thus is no longer pm.
He’s PM till he goes to the Queen to resign.
But my new party thought wasn’t about holding on longer as PM, it was about the record showing that Johnson finished his time as PM under that new party’s banner… giving it a big launch event… their PM is “undemocratically” ousted, and the campaign to return him to his throne begins. Just an idle thought yesterday, but it’s an option for him. The whole “that party” line when he was talking about the Conservatives wanting him to stand down had me thinking about it, that’s all. A new party could be a good grifting opportunity, and a way to build and show off his public support to the party that rejected him. A “you can’t win without me” ego trip.
"Time for them to grow some balls and tell us WHO is saying this stuff. This deniable briefing approach needs to end"
If they did that then Newsnight would be over in 10 minutes and Newscast would have no content at all.
This deniable briefing approach needs to end. Who said it. What is their role. Why should we listen to a word they say.
Yup it is poisonous. It was quite telling that Lord McDonald could have just given some pointers about the case to a friendly journalist but instead wrote the letter since he disagreed with this anonymous source approach and felt it should have his name clearly attached.
But my new party thought wasn’t about holding on longer as PM, it was about the record showing that Johnson finished his time as PM under that new party’s banner… giving it a big launch event…
That's not how it works though.
Tories are the majority party, their leader is PM. The PM can't change party and remain in office. It's not a presidential system, we don't (technically) elect a PM.
The PM can’t change party and remain in office.
That is the convention. There is a reason why I suggested he could do it “in his last week” as PM. He wouldn’t be “caretaker PM” for very long at all if he pulled that move. Everyone would be made aware of the new party name though, it would be a huge world event launching the party.
It's possible in a Trump-style desperate ladt throw of the dice but I think unlikely.
He can try it, but Sri Lanka is demonstrating the potential risk quite nicely
He’s PM till he goes to the Queen to resign.
Or a new leader of the largest party in parliament is elected leader then he's out by automatic operation of the constitution!
Or a new leader of the largest party in parliament is elected leader then he’s out by automatic operation of the constitution!
You’ll have to point me to that bit of the constitution that happens “automatically”.
