I know the last person to hold Jo Cox as she does. Tonight was nothing short of a disgrace. I look forward to his ritual humiliation on the steps of Number 10 announcing that we are going to extend Article 50 on November 1st.
^^ Totally agree. On both counts tom. I think bj doesn't really have any lines he won't cross.
He and Cummings are going to play people vs parliament all the way. At any cost.
I can't but help think that in a few weeks from now today will seem tame in comparison. No way is this going to get better any time soon.
We are witnessing a fight for the very heart and soul of this country and its not like the movies. Good doesn't always prevail, plenty of evidence of that already.
people vs politics puts more power in the hands of the press owners, who last I looked, were unelected.
short term public opinion is scary.
I'm sure Ernst Thälmann...sorry...I mean Corbyn....will come to our rescue and stop Boris...just after he's dealt with the social fascists Tom Watson....
Rayban - thats just a vile comment.
You know I’m mildly fond of your shenanigans TJ, so if you can point out why - I’ll consider your accusation.
I think you are intelligent enough to understand. On a thread about Johnson where people are condemning his actions you have to come in with an attack on corbyn based on total falsehoods - it make you look like you are defending Johnson using the same tactics and language as he did, Its disgusting
I hate Johnson just as much as you TJ, I’ve just gotten past the point of hoping Corbyn can or will do anything about it.
I’m just frustrated and disheartened at the increasingly simplistic messages coming from both sides of the political spectrum.
On one side we have a coked up lunatic proroguing parliament - on the other side we have someone putting out simple sound bites on complex topics that I don’t think I could even begin to understand without writing a dissertation on it first (the economics of pharmaceutical supply)
So why do you defend Johnson then - because that is what your post is. disgusting and this is the last time I ever respond to you until you apologise for your disgusting behaviour. You have outed your=self.
I understand you’re as pissed as me TJ, I just choose to vent it differently- I apologise for that.
I’d be voting to transfer the capital to Scotland if I could....
....truce?
I wonder how well bj slept last night? Great I suspect. Not a care in the world. Oh to be that self centred and financially insulated.
Let's see what today throws up. I still reckon the rhetoric of yesterday will sound tame a few weeks from now which is a worrying thought.
That’s how I feel poopscoop, I mean I’m ****ing cynical - I foresaw most of this stupidity by just being the type of person that thinks of the most pessimistic worst case scenario and decides - well humans are involved so that worst case scenario is a given.
Except this has gone well beyond what I once thought were absurdist positions.
Bloody hell. Is it too late to find a bunker in the mountains and fill it with tinned goods and bottled water? This is heading in a very nasty direction very quickly.
The sad thing is this could well be the new normal in politics, pre-Trump & BoJo no major politician would have behaved like this (however lacking in morals they may have been) and would have been given no option to resign over their conduct. Nowadays though it just seems like if you keep ramping up the diatribe enough, or call anything negative against you fake news, that you can get away with it and can carry on doing whatever the **** you like. I think only arrest/imprisonment/mass civil unrest has got any chance of reversing this trend and all those seem unlikely.
https://twitter.com/nicktolhurst/status/1176839648406122497?s=19
Some background on the pole-dancer turned "tech entrepreneur" and her relationship with BJ. Some more very frightening links in there too...
Mass civil unrest calling for moderation....has that even ever happened before?
Mass unrest is almost always followed by something on the periphery of the political spectrum.
Even at my dumb level of political understanding, this is “I don’t care about anyone else as long as I’m PM and we exit Europe” in its lowest possible form.
I thought we’d reached the bottom of the barrel in the worlds eyes when we couldn’t deliver Brexit due to Parliament members personal career choices, but this really is so something else.
Some background on the pole-dancer turned “tech entrepreneur” and her relationship with BJ. Some more very frightening links in there too…
It's shameful that it is taking citizen journalism to join the dots because of the ownership of much of the British media, and the emasculation of the rest.
The same could be said of the Trump situation and the likes of @sethabramson in the US.
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“I don’t care about anyone else as long as I’m PM and we exit Europe” in its lowest possible form.
I'd consider myself politically naive as well but I think the brexit bit to him isn't that important, it's just the current tool to achieve the first part, staying PM.
"I wonder how well bj slept last night? Great I suspect. Not a care in the world. Oh to be that self centred and financially insulated."
+100!
I sincerely hope Acurigate will be his undoing. The Loathsome toad.
It's as though both Trump & Boris are reading from the same manual. ffs.
It’s as though both Trump & Boris are reading from the same manual.
I didn’t know Steve Bannon had a book out?
Mein Kampf is a bit before Steve Bannon.
As a throwaway addition to this thead at this point in time, somewhere around July the Conservative Muslim Forum Chair said:
"But he as far as I’m concerned has insufficient concern about the nature of truth for me to ever be a member of a party that he leads."
https://twitter.com/ashcowburn/status/1176967847924391937
I have to say the level of debate and self correction in Parliament by moral and upstanding MPs is fantastic. When they shout digust at the PM they are shouting for all of us. It is sad therefore that if not in power there is very little they can do about it. Love this guy's passion:
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The PM in our house now is called Jorris Bonson, it's a clown name and it seems apt.
It’s shameful that it is taking citizen journalism to join the dots because of the ownership of much of the British media, and the emasculation of the rest.
The right wing media are so desperate for Brexit to happen as soon as possible while there's still a significant minority of people shouting "get it done!" that they're not interested in reporting any actual news about it.
Smear and denigrate "others", some news about which celebrity is shagging which footballer and Boris can quietly get on with screwing the entire country without too much scrutiny.
there’s still a significant minority of people shouting “get it done!” that they’re not interested in reporting any actual news about it.
You think its a minority shouting ‘get it done’ ?! Seriously?
A significant minority, yes.
If it was a clear and constant majority, a PM would just get past the logjam in Parliment by holding a referendum … their withdrawal agreement (or leave without one) vs keep the status quo. They could just say ‘here is a way of getting this done, back it’.
Any chance someone takes Boris to court for incitement?
Does he even realise what he’s doing or is Cummings fist so far up his arse his brain no longer registers his actions?
Did he ever realise what he was doing?
He's essentially a political version of one of those semi-scripted "reality show" characters. It's like Westminster Shore or something.
He knows exactly what he's doing.
It's just a continuation of his 'journalism'.
So when he wrote that piece about Muslim women being 'Bank Robbers' and 'Letterboxes' it was, apparently, according to him, a piece defending the right of Muslim women to wear whatever they liked.
But with its sneering, hostile tone, and the use of such crude and inflammatory, racist language, he might as well have just titled it "I'm not racist, but...."
He's just doing the same now. Being glaringly offensive, and inciting things but dressing it up just enough for it to be potentially deniable.
MPs vote no recess for Tory conference
7 votes and 2 court cases with 100% fail record. That is awesome. Looks like Boris Trump will fulfil his ambition of being remembered by history
The problem for Boris (real name Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson) is the 'dead cat' only works if you keep outdoing yourself. Last month 'I paint buses on wine boxes' worked, yesterday it was mentioning Jo Cox.
Tomorrow? Meeting the Queen naked with a dead corgi shoved up his arse?
That is effing hilarious.
Now the bleating will be about how its going to cost manchester 30 million quid to cancel it
Serves them ruddy well right ( the tories) Expect more humiliating defeats and votes intended to embarrass Johnson. the commons scents blood
the commons scents blood
Stop that.
I found the final sentence particularly amusing, where Michael Gove apparently takes on the role of the Iraqi Information Minister.
Al Jazeera:
Johnson is continuing his efforts to govern in the face of numerous obstacles. He has lost every single parliamentary vote of his premiership. He lost his parliamentary majority when he sacked 21 of his MPs and a further two defected. On Monday, he lost at the Supreme Court 11-0 as justices ruled unanimously against him.
And he has been given two weeks by the London Assembly to explain his relationship with Jennifer Arcuri, a pole-dancing American former model who reportedly accompanied Johnson on overseas trips during his time as London mayor, and whose company received about 120,000 pounds ($150,000) of taxpayers' money in that time.
Cabinet Minister Michael Gove said the prime minister was a "born winner", despite all evidence to the contrary.
Now the bleating will be about how its going to cost manchester 30 million quid to cancel it
Very prescient, that's exactly what's happening. I've just seen tweets to that effect in reply to a Conservative MP bleating on about not getting their jolly.
Also, £30m? Boris on a bendy bus.
So what laws will the commons put in place next week / motions to be passed?
I suspect a much tougher forcing of Johnson to go cap in hand to the EU for an extension. some sort of censure motion and a trap laid to make him either apologise or be found in contempt off parliament and possibly even a bid to depose him without an election
it was a clear and constant majority, a PM would just get past the logjam in Parliment by holding a referendum …
Or an election.. The opposition would have to grow some first though.
> sigh <
Obvious goading is obvious.
An election before an extension has been obtained allows an “accidental” No Deal Brexit to happen during the election campaign. Everyone knows it. Shouting “cowardly” and hoping everyone is an idiot won’t work.
By the way, in your case, I have no idea if you’re hoping others are idiots, or if you’ve fallen for the line yourself.
Depressing but essential twitter thread…
https://twitter.com/ellieelizaa/status/1177202365964980224?s=21
Sorry guys, it's been mentioned about what bj's sister said about him today I take it?
She didn’t mention Crispin Odey by name, but she might as well have.
Obvious goading is obvious.
Unfortunately many mouth breathing dullards seem to think that the Back To The Future approach is a legitimate political tactic.
A quick quote from that C4 programme from Crispin Odey…
My phrase is, there's Boris One and Boris Two. Boris One is a charming guy who tries to get everything by charming people, and bringing a bit of enthusiasm where there hasn't been any. And says 'come on, surely you can see where your future lies'. That's Boris One.
Boris Two, which nobody's really seen, is the one where Boris One has been denied and he is then fighting for his survival. And the interesting thing is, all of the risks to Boris about being unscrupulous then become part of his genius.
