£3.6bn! He can promise whatever he wants - we'll never see it.
Exactly. Promise lots. Hold election. 5 years to move the agenda on (with the help of the press who have literally embedded their people into government) so that people forget about your old promises. Promise more things. Hold another election. 5 years to… etc.
Does the £3.6 billion match a soon to be lost source of funding for regions?
(Well, obviously not as it will never be real but just supposing)
Oh and WTF – Johnston TELLS Merkel? jeepers – she is worth 10 of him!
One's a bigot who voted against same sex marriage and the other's a pure fanny 😉
We will take northumbria. Cumbria I am not so sure
Actually, I annexed Northumbria into Scotland, back in 2006 I think. I suspect that the paperwork got lost in the post though.
I'm sure there's a part of Northumbria that is still Scottish...
Meh 'my independence movement is better than yours'. Dream on.
Another towering intellect appointed to the top team
https://twitter.com/thumbsuk/status/1155155584276193280?s=21
Tbf I'm am ashamed to day I'm enjoying the rhetoric.
Makes a change for some positivity.
Ps still think he's a narrsacist and a fool but that's a pre qualifier for an MP.
Boris's idea of 'long term' is Christmas. His whole philosophy is to just go for it, and only worry about digging himself out of the hole if he falls into it. He's actually very clever and so far has been able to get kudos for escaping most pits and brush over having fallen in. Plus, he doesn't care (or isn't aware) of the collateral damage he causes.
The Johnson bounce only gives him a 2-10pt lead which is way below what May achieved after her coronation.
There will be many more giveaways promised yet
But as it stands he's still short of a majority even on his best poll
https://twitter.com/tommyhawkins/status/1155222592363606016?s=19
IF he delivers a no deal Brexit on the 31st you'd assume that Brexit party voters would swing to him but nothing would be garaunteed
Plus, he doesn’t care (or isn’t aware) of the collateral damage he causes.
I would go with doesn't care. And he doesn't need to as nothing he does will actually affect his life.
IF he delivers a no deal Brexit on the 31st you’d assume that Brexit party voters would swing to him but nothing would be guaranteed
I agree - I am surprised by the mainly older white, working class voters who have found their way to supporting the Torys because of its Brexit to 'take back control' mantra. Equally they've backed the Brexit party over the same issue. I wonder whether once the deal is done (if it is done) they might rethink where their natural home is, and while some might reward Boris if he does it, some will then swing back to their normal home.
Kimbers interesting stuff on that predictor.
I very much doubt it really show what will happen in Scotland. SNP will gain more seats than that and th tries will lose most of theirs
I very much doubt it really show what will happen in Scotland. SNP will gain more seats than that and th tries will lose most of theirs
Although I hope so, I wouldn't be so sure. I've never seen as many openly tory people in my life than I have in recent months. Where once it was something never to admit to, kept behind closed doors with heads hanging in shame, I've had conversations both in Glasgow and Edinburgh offices with highly paid profesionals and several working depots full of low paid manual workers. Granted still majority seem against them but there has definitely been an emerging of an emboldened group all for it. That sends shivers up my spine.
I am surprised by the mainly older white, working class
How dare people within categorised groups act as individuals rather than follow stereotypical prejudicial behaviours you have assigned to them in your mind.
"I’ve never seen as many openly tory people in my life than I have in recent months."
Why would they not be open ? With 28% of the vote in Scotland in the 2017 UK election they are second place behind the SNP on 36%. Hardly an extreme fringe faction. The SNP don't speak exclusively for Scotland you know. Next thing people will be open about not wanting another indyref!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-40246330
Davidson is in a difficult position. Having established a nice cuddly image and being the saviour of the fishing fleet and the union Johnston is a nightmare for her
Boris’s idea of ‘long term’ is Christmas.
Or maybe the complete opposite.He mentioned 200 years of the Conservative party in his "coronation speech" which is telling.I think he sees Brexit as an "issue" and an opportunity.In the same way that emasculating the trade unions,privatising state assets and selling off the family silver,council housing etc. was for Thatcher.Smashing Labour and ensuring the Tories rule long term is his aim.Oh and the small egotistical matter of confounding his critics,getting one up on his uni pal Cameron, trashing the opposition (both Labour and Farage) through electoral success and joining the pantheon of Tory greats a la Thatcher,Chuchill etc.
I see the Mark Field assault matter has been brushed away by bojo
The current PM considers this issue was a matter for the previous PM concerning his conduct during his time as a minister under her appointment.
Hopefully Boris will sort the things people really care about.
- 0% income tax and business rates for anyone earning over 40,000 per annum
- Public grants for purchasing and refurbishing BTL properties
- Priority parking for SUV's at Waitrose and other premium retailers
- Higher speed limits, **** it unlimited, for German cars under 2 years old
- The end of pothole hell, nice smooth ride for the Rangey when going back and forth to the village wine bars
- Vehicles worth under 25k banned from the roads
- Cheap and grateful imported nannies/servants from Montserrat, to be housed in HMO's in the most deprived areas. A benevolent and wonderful opportunity to lift them out of poverty
- Compulsory unpaid internships for all young people/scum making gourmet food at village restaurants and gastro pubs
- BTL tenants to be evicted on whim, subject to birching, called "peasants" and required to undertake compulsory work repairing potholes, litter picking, maintenance of grounds and public spaces.
Davidson is in a difficult position.
Nah, she is in rare position of being a Tory who can keep her job AND point out that a no deal Brexit is a disaster for all but the few.
Johnston is a nightmare for her
Ahh, yes, I should have read on. You’re spot on. Sorry.
How dare people within categorised groups act as individuals rather than follow stereotypical prejudicial behaviours you have assigned to them in your mind.
I've not said they can't, I've said I'm a little surprised they did and also i wouldn't be surprised if they then swing back to a stereotypical labour vote when their swing issue is resolved.
I'd be happy if this was a signal of a switch to people thinking about their vote and making a decision based on the issues and manifestos presented to them, but I'm sceptical that's the case.
Tbf I’m am ashamed to day I’m enjoying the rhetoric.
https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1156220072160976898
Makes a change for some positivity
Rumour is that the government is planning to buy livestock due for slaughter. Then what are farmers to do next? Lie in bed at night feeling positive? Install duolingo and learn Japanese (P.S. current WTO tarrifs for lamb imports to Japan are 0%)? Diversify your farmland and host Theresa May's festival of Brexit (remember that?) and hope it goes Glasto?
We're so ****ed with this buffoon in charge.
Rumour is that the government is planning to buy livestock due for slaughter
Source?
Source?
Probably mint to go with all that lamb.
It keeps getting danced around in the media.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/no-deal-brexit-500m-plan-to-help-farmers-bx5pnx9qq
The "deal" with Japan is nothing to do with Brexit, it's reversing the ban imposed on British beef and lamb following the BSE debacle in the 1990s. It's worth £10m per year compared with £390m per year that the UK currently exports to the EU.
That's not the positive attitude we are looking for, whitestone-san.
Why is dumbojo spreading project fear? Typical remoaner.
ZombieMaygot said that we would all be better off after Brexit.
It’s worth £10m per year compared with £390m per year that the UK currently exports to the EU.
Where are the EU going to find £400m worth of livestock to fill that gap in supply?
New Zealand
You lot are all just being negative. Where's your can-do spirit eh, you doomsters and gloomsters?!
We could have massive Brexit street parties all around the country in the event of no deal, where we could all wave union jacks while eating our own body weight in minted lamb burgers
The vegetarians are all probably traitors anyway, so they can all have an omelette
Looks fun in the US too, anything that jeopardises the good Friday agreement with result in the uk-us trade deal being vetoed or blocked by Congress.
How's no deal looking for you now Boris?
How’s no deal looking for you now Boris?
He doesn't care. Its all about Johnston and him getting power. Thats all he cares about
@trailwagger - I doubt that all the £390m export market will disappear, there'll be some sectors within the EU that will still pay a premium for the cachet of British lamb. Welshfarmer will probably have a better idea. In the short term until EU producers step up production to cover the shortfall then lamb prices in the EU will rise due to basic supply and demand.
Back to NI and the border: without a hard border just how does the buffoon plan to stop anyone illegally entering the UK? They can simply walk/cycle/drive across from the RoI into NI.
None of this is the EU's fault, the UK (well the rabid right of the ERG/tories/UKIP) have boxed themselves into a corner with their ill thought out rhetoric and are looking to shift the blame as usual.
None of this is the EU’s fault,
The problem is that many people who have believed his twaddle about the EU for the last decade will lap this line up.
Well, it looks like it could be the USofA that saves us after all, the pressure is increasing that if the UK reneges on the good Friday agreement, there will be no deals with them.
It is actually the first bit of serious hope I have felt for a while, I had believed we were on course for a crash with Boris just blustering and blaming everyone else for his clear failings. I can now see an actual path to avoid disaster.
The path to avoid disaster is some tories finding some cojones and voting do deal down / voting the government down
the talks between Hammond and Starmer give me hope
the only fly in the ointment is there are enough brexiteer idiots in labour ( 18 did not support the last attempt) that might just vote for the government and outweigh tory rebels - like last time.
According to R4 yesterday, the governments plan for livestock buyback has not been confirmed yet, Welsh first minister interviewed said he'd pushed Johnson, but he had no details (obvs)
EU's scheme is setup & ready to go, up to €100 per animal for Irish farmers.
Also Johnson's current suggestion that we stay in CU & SM for 2 yearsbto help the transition requires a deal which is exactly where we're not heading at the moment !
it's going to be a bloody short honeymoon period for Blowjo at this rate
The path to avoid disaster is some tories finding some cojones and voting do deal down / voting the government down
A government minister (Alan Duncan) resigned so that he could table such a motion, so that Parliament could vote to stop Boris Johnson becoming PM, and head off No Deal before we head into the summer recess. The Speaker said that the request had to come from the Leader Of The Opposition, who decided not to do so, and instead, once it was too late to do anything constructive himself, held a nice little rally to call for the government to step down and call an election.
The path to avoid disaster is some tories finding some cojones and voting do deal down / voting the government down
Never gonna happen - the Tories are self>party>country from top to bottom, including the ones like Gauke who are currently making anti-No-Deal noises
DRJ - actually several tories voted with Labour on the motion to take control of parliament and prevent no deal - but 18 labour did not support the motion so it failed
feel the love
NI
https://twitter.com/andybell5news/status/1156528414423207937
Wales
https://twitter.com/ITVWales/status/1156245110843203587
Scotland
https://twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1155903978254848000
