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150K farmers/650 is 200-250 per constituency, not 20-25.
But your point is still mainly valid, 200-250 votes won't swing many constituencies.
But if they got all their friends to support them it might make a couple of thousand votes difference and if support of farmers is perceived as a support of the rural way of life that could be a vote winner irrespective of how many farmers there actually are.
He's been spotted!!! raising cash for the party at the millionaires black & white ball
Looks like he's aged a decade !
https://twitter.com/MorrisseyHelena/status/1232439884775751681?s=19
The comments in that tweet are amusing
The problems are beginning to mount up for johnson - in no particular sequence:
- inadequate response to repeated floods
- attitude to COP26 is one of paying lip service
- HS2 costs will continue to increase
- negotiations with EU heading for cliff-edge before they really start; johnson and his acolytes may be unconcerned but should be a real worry for most of population
- apparent willingness to renege on (part of) the political declaration will confirm EU view that he cannot be trusted
- covid-19 preparedness, or otherwise, will be tested
- stock markets now moving into 'correction' territory; that is a fall of >10% within a few days
- heathrow 3rd runway not resolved yet; many tory MPs want it; if johnson's constituency wasn't next to the airport it's probable he would be in favour
- repeated lies and empty promises about NHS hospital building, social care; dissembling about increased recruitment of nurses and police officers
- he cannot achieve 'satisfactory outcomes' with both EU and US; behaviour to date suggests a preference for US; will trump go in dry or use lube (probably made in china)?
This is just for starters.
Happy days......
will trump go in dry or use lube (probably made in china)?
Rhetorical, one assumes?
Who knows? I don't know what their preferences are.
Frank nails it...
Lot of karma building up..
Lot of karma building up..
They'll find some convenient scapegoat and the chumps will believe them. Again.
Also bear in mind that covid-19 will be very easy to sell as 'caused by dirty foreigners'.
Don't underestimate the depths they will go to, the poison they used for the Leave campaign is also highly addictive.
The great unwashed will take the bull**** middle England will quietly plot Boris's downfall..
Just watch they wont stand having to pay more wages, taxes (oh yes), invest, not being able to get a cut price Nanny, having to pay the great unwashed £20 an hour to mow the lawn, see Jemimas graduate job in the city taken by some bloke from Mumbai.
Boris is rolling the dice....
Boris (Dominic) read the mood of the Brexity folks, now Bojo thinks Dom is "inscrutable" and is delivering his manifesto...
I think Bojo has made a huge mistake, he has thanked the red wall for their vote and taken the core Tory vote for granted.
The more you read about the Russian report that BJ is sitting on, the more you read about Cummings time in Russia, the more you "follow the money" - Leave.eu and their "big hitters", the more you can only, inevitably realise is that these bast4rds have sold us out to Russia.
And I for one say "приветствовать" to our new Russia overlords.
Add to the list -
if Boris breaks the Good Friday Agreement (with hard border) then US Irish (a very powerful lobby) will ensure no UK / US trade deal.
oldman - not mutual back slapping but....your two consecutive posts above are bang on; there is so much which will directly impact on lifelong tory middle class voters - loss of (perceived) entitlement, increased costs in many different forms.
Dice still rolling....
As for cummings 'strategic genius' - hugely effective in two campaigns; other than that, toxic and has no useful role - cameron was right in telling gove to get rid when he was an education dept spad.
The red wall voters will neither forgive nor forget when they don't get what they thought had been promised.
Core tory voters will realise they should have been more questioning of johnson, his 'promises' and a hard brexit.
I stand by my prediction up there ^^^ that cummings will be gone by mid year.
dogbone, yes that's a very good point; will also risk major flare-up of sectarian violence.
Would he want that on his cv? A good way to guarantee pariah status.
I don’t think he cares as long as the people around him are blowing smoke up his arse.
dogbone, yes that’s a very good point; will also risk major flare-up of sectarian violence.
Dunno... could also push reunification.
We probably need an Irish/NI STW’er’s viewpoint/take on this.
Where are people "reading about the Russia report"? Cos I really want that released, the lies and delays must be for a reason.
Russia report might see light of day when there is a massive spike in Corona virus or Meghan stabs the Queen to keep it off the front page...
Why would the tories want to delay anything about Russia? Makes you think doesn’t it (oh god I’m turning into JHJ or whatever his current id is)
But I doubt in even the most rural seats famers would swing the vote 🙂
There's Scarry's Law postulated by the Economist that states:
politicians mess at their peril with groups that feature in children’s books—farmers, fishermen, train drivers and suchlike
so, also, wizards and crime-solving teams of seven year olds?
wizards
Well one appears to have 'vanished' our dear leader.
Where is Alexander Boris Picaninnies Watermelon Letterboxes Wallspaffer Bumboys De Pfeffel Johnson?
Self-isolating after not properly reading a briefing paper on Coronavirus?
They were asking the same question on't radio this morning, when the political editor of the FT also asked what has this government actually done in the 100 days since being elected?
His answer: absolutely nothing at all!
So maybe it's best that Joris stays on his holidays. God only knows what he'd get up to if he could actually be bothered. His inherent laziness is really a godsend.
And at least his continued refusal to put his wellies on will end once and for all the idea that he actually gives a shit about anything
johnson will be chairing COBRA covid-19 meeting on Monday.
With storm Jorge due, will he also show some (feigned) interest in flood-hit areas and visit?
Self-isolating after not properly reading a briefing paper on Coronavirus?
Made me chuckle.
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Johnson will be chairing COBRA covid-19 meeting on Monday.
”quick, assemble the emergency committee!”
”now?”
”no, after the weekend”
Understandable as he'll need to recover from the week long bender he's on.
Does gov have drugs and alcohol policy for PM, ministers and spads?
True random testing - without notice - would give some 'interesting' results, I'm sure.
If it's good enough for business it should also be good enough for our 'leaders'.
Surly Boris is due to go on holiday again by now?
Anna Soubry putting the boot in to Boris on ch 4 news over the virus response,or lack of.Lol😁
I'm no fan of hers, simply always nice to see people laying in to Boris.
you get the government and pm you deserve. the electorate have shown they really couldn't careless (about poverty, the environment, NHS etc) so the government and pm don't give a shit in return.
Just as some football teams retire a shirt number when the player who wore it is deemed to be the ultimate in that role it may be time for the Conservative party to consider retiring the phrase ‘lying ****’
Did anyone believe the joint denial from the pair of them...?
The government / cabinet’s going well isn’t it….
I’ve spent the last few years defending this correspondent, and her employers… but I’m starting to think I was seriously wrong:
BBC political editor Laura Kuenssberg said: "It is no secret that we have a government that is ruthlessly willing to pursue [its] own agenda - and if that means making big changes in Whitehall, well so be it."
Puff, puff, puff.
Either I'm misunderstanding you, Kelvin, or I think you're misreading that quote (and the following paragraph)
I could be misreading it, but perhaps it could be left to a member of the government to talk up the “smack of firm government”, “can’t make an omelette without breaking eggs” angle for their unhinged country breaking nutcase mekon overlord and preening evil trainee Home Secretary, rather than a BBC journalist spinning for them.
Kelvin, I also think you have misread laura kuenssberg's quote; it's clear she is saying....this is the gov's view.
Then she can say that. And tell us who says it’s the government’s view. Rather than deliver it as if a truism, without attribution.
The government have people to spin for them. I’ve given certain correspondents, and BBC news and current affairs more generally, the benefit of the doubt for years, and as I have said, defended them against accusations of acting on behalf of the government while giving them plausible deniability, but I really am starting to doubt the wisdom of doing so. The evidence is really stacking up, sadly.
You have your view; I have mine; they are different.
I don't see signs of bias in BBC political reporting nor is there any evidence of spinning on behalf of the gov.
She's reporting the government view, seems fair
Frank, I thought/think the same as you, but I’m now just at the point of wondering if perhaps we just want that to be the case…
MoreCash, if it’s the government’s view, someone from the government can say so… supply a quote with attribution.
The problem.is that kussenberg, Preston etc are so keen to get the latest news & Twitter kudos they just repeat the spin verbatim.
Preston has backed off a bit after getting burnt a few times by spreading some pretty dreadful lies from unamed Tory sources, effectively spreading fake news
I was giving Kuenssberg the benefit of the doubt but after the election she seems to be wetting her knickers at the prospect of some kind of communications supremo job for De Pfeffel.
Ooh look squirrel! He’s engaged and has another child on the way, what joy!
Early summer, so about the time he pronounced a general election.
Spectator front page will be interesting next month.
Twitter being quick to point out that Carrie Symonds was born a mere 5 months after her fiancee was first sacked for lying.
When a man marries his mistress he creates an immediate job vacancy
OMG she shagged Boris Johnson 🤮🤮 absolutely gross.
They can call it Baby Brexit! 👶🏻🇬🇧🖕
The problem.is that kussenberg, Preston etc are so keen to get the latest news & Twitter kudos they just repeat the spin verbatim.
Remember when they repeated, without the most basic checking, the completely made up claim that a 'labour activist' had assaulted one of Matt Hancock's aides at a hospital
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Remember when they repeated, without the most basic checking, the completely made up claim that a ‘labour activist’ had assaulted one of Matt Hancock’s aides at a hospital
And then when it was proven false still described it as a "grim scene".
Boris' baby.
With the mums teeth (I know I'm being a bit nasty here) and his dads blond hair it's going to a challenge at school.
At least he won't see much of his dad to mess him up though. Silver lining.
There was a weird rumour earlier in the week that Boris was lying low because he'd been given a black eye by his (main) girlfriend for cheating on her (again) and she's pregnant. It was dismissed fairly quickly at the time but now...
I'm guessing Boris will now make being PM a hereditary title/job now? Elections are so tiresome anyway.
Get rid of that other monarchy thing and start a new Golden Era of the House of Johnson!
There was a weird rumour earlier in the week that Boris was lying low because he’d been given a black eye by his (main) girlfriend for cheating on her (again) and she’s pregnant. It was dismissed fairly quickly at the time but now…
Sounds a bit like tittle tattle, but if it is true it won't end there, which could get interesting.
If there is one thing that would give me pleasure it is Alexander Boris De Pfeffel Johnson being hoist by his (one of many) own petard.
There was a weird rumour earlier in the week that Boris was lying low because he’d been given a black eye by his (main) girlfriend for cheating on her (again) and she’s pregnant. It was dismissed fairly quickly at the time but now…
With the current government, it seems entirely possible that the truth is even more outlandish.
How many kids will he have once this one is out?
It will be his 7th child.He has 4 to his ex wife 2 to 2 other women and now this one. The funny thing is if he wasn't rich no woman would look at him, just like Princes William and Harry.
I imagine a lot of people may not know he even has kids (as he ever been seen with any of them?)
I know , personal life stuff and not relevant but with that many kids most people would be mentioning them by accident as they would be doing something with one at them most days. They would be mentioned in speeches/stories etc,.
Maybe a baby number 7 will bring out his caring , nurturing side.
On behalf of all the other ugly blokes who have found someone to love them and raise a family, let's try to avoid petty personal remarks.
I see his pic is on all the front pages, but the actual headlines seem to be relating to the Home Office story.
baby number 7
7ish
At the moment he is as close to being 'world king' as he is ever likely to get. Decline and fall is his lot now; the only question is how fast it will happen. (And it will be Tory knives who put him in the ground when the time comes.)
the only question is how fast it will happen
June.
If he extends the transition, his party knifes him, if he doesn’t, he crashes the economy. You’re absolutely correct when you say it’ll be Tory knives that do for him, more so if he doesn’t give Cummings the heave ho at a point where it’s felt he’s gone beyond the pale.
Might be faster, it’s been apparently between corona and flooding he can’t manage a crisis and it makes him look weak…
They would be mentioned in speeches/stories etc,.
Yep they normally use to empathise with the public, can’t see Boris ever doing this.
Might be faster, it’s been apparently between corona and flooding he can’t manage a crisis and it makes him look weak…
I reckon there’s also rough waters ahead with Pretty Vile and Civil service.
Is t there some kind of gagging order on the press about his offspring. And does it being discussed here have legal ramifications for stw?
Given the ****er has now decided to make it a front page headline I like to think it would be difficult to go after STW... Maybe just delete the posts that are trying to keep count 🙂
On behalf of all the other ugly blokes who have found someone to love them and raise a family, let’s try to avoid petty personal remarks.
As MrsM might have put it "What was it that first attracted you to lying, philandering millionaire politician Boris de whatsit ****y tossarse Johnson ?"
Well that's one way of avoiding responsibility for what happens during the crucial time in the EU trade talks, extended paternity leave for Boris, excellent planning indeed.
Has there been any corroboration that Johnson spent a night working at That hospital? I can't help thinking it's total bullshit as normally if he does something like that it is recorded on camera for publicity
Probably just being cynical but...
Is t there some kind of gagging order on the press about his offspring. And does it being discussed here have legal ramifications for stw?
TBH he could have some superinjunctions out but tbh they’re only enforceable uk so non-uk news sources tend to sort of let the cat out of the bag.
So now there's a leak from the government claiming that farmers aren't important to the UK economy.
ARRRRRRRRRRRHAHAHAHAHAHARRRR.
Anyone enjoying the Brexit schadenfreude as much as me?
Probably just being cynical but…
Well what was it 40 new hospitals promised pre-election and the £350 million bus sticker he does seem to like using it as a political tool when he’s not letting it run into the ground 🙁
Well what was it 40 new hospitals promised pre-election
With less emphasis on more than a third of them being tiny hospitals in Dorset... turns out people think of an entirely different kind of hospital if you don't put the word 'Cottage' in front.
