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C'mon City!!! There's half a million extra Manchester City fans behind you from Liverpool tomorrow, do it for the good of the world, football, fairness and to show all the biased referees, officials, press and all the Scum loving corrupt, lying cheating tw*ts that seem desperate to do what they can to hand the Scum as much as they can each year and the fact that everyone can see it and still nothing happens about scheming referees and 20 minutes of extra time and leniaht punishments from the FA and managers who seem to be able to say what they want when all other managers who tried the same things would be handed bans etc.
Win the league City, it's only fair and just that you do.
In all honesty I'd rather see Man U win it every year than City.
Money shouldn't be able to buy you happiness.
worked for blackburn rovers once upon a time. look at them now
C'mon City!!! There's half a million extra Manchester City fans behind you from Liverpool tomorrow, do it for the good of the world, football, fairness and to show all the biased referees, officials, press and all the Scum loving corrupt, lying cheating tw*ts that seem desperate to do what they can to hand the Scum as much as they can each year and the fact that everyone can see it and still nothing happens about scheming referees and 20 minutes of extra time and leniaht punishments from the FA and managers who seem to be able to say what they want when all other managers who tried the same things would be handed bans etc.
I do find this attutude a bit sad, if my team are in with a chance of winning something, I support them. If they're not in the running, I'm not interested.
I hope you won't suffer so badly from the hangover that you can't enjoy the games.
Perhaps in 20 years time if we have not won the league and seen outr record overtaken by our greatest rivals then i will feel as bitter and twisted as you do. Sadly the inflammatory tone of your post speaks volumes of the content of your heart and your character and it paints a picture of an deeply unhappy and bitter person . I doubt I can stoop so low but if this how you deal with your hurt then so be it. I genuinely feel sorry for you and your consistently under performing team.
FWIW over the course of the season I would say they[City] are the better team and taking only 1 point from the 9 means we dont really deserve it.
Come on now loddrik, it's time to let it go and put this rivalry behind you. As a United fan I know that I no longer see Liverpool as real rivals. 😉
You would have thought he would much rather have had bragging rights over everton in his fair city than have to visit [s]Manchester[/s]Kent to have bragging rights over Man U fans.
Well done you and all you Liverpool fans for supporting your team against your local rivals 😕
Bregante, I'm a Newcastle fan, and I no longer see Liverpool as a threat to the top 5 😀
Why would Liverpool fans care about what's happening in the title race? That'd be like me caring that Jenson Button can drive faster than me...
To any Newcastle players reading this, step away from the lasagne, its not worth it.
Good luck tomorrow to all Geordies (and Baggies and Fulham).
And City. 🙂
The winner?
it's a fact of life now that to win the Prem you need a huge amount of money behind you. Of course, as was seen initially with Chelsea, then latterly with Man City themselves, that's not all, but without huge pockets you can never have the quality in depth that you need to compete among the top. Hence, this year has been great; not just because it could all swing again tomorrow, but just to see the old order disrupted and the prospect of a new name on the trophy.
I don't hold anything specifically against Man Utd, but i really hope City don't bottle it for that reason. And then next year I hope they all get their arses handed to them by someone else again. Frankly, Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool, or any one else I don't mind - but that's what i want to see, a true competition where one of maybe 7 or 8 clubs could win.
It's Man City, [i]all[/i] they have to do is beat a team fighting for their lives. If anyone can shoot themselves in the foot it's Man City.
good point that as it is truly shocking that currently 8 th place is closer to the bottom team that the top [25-53-86 repectively]
Imagine being 8 th and yet nearer the bottom than the top 😯
Dreadful
bitter? Maybe...
But I'll guarantee when your manager retires, you'll feel the pain too. Make no mistake, it's all down to him that you've had success, and he won't last forever.
What fans of the scum fail to see is that until abramovic came along, they were massively outspending all other teams season after season, who else was getting anywhere near spending £30m on a player a decacde ago? Something they did season after season. But now a team comes to the fore who can outspend them many times over, but now they are the victims and the like of City and their money is bad for the game. The scum have being buying titles for years, and it's laughable that their 'fans' are in denial about it.
You would have thought he would much rather have had bragging rights over everton in his fair city
Nothing against Everton, if LFC didn't exist I'd be an evertonian, I'd say they are my second team, if there is such a thing..
C'mon City!!!
I hope city win to reward the thousands of loyal fans who have followed them for decades in massive numbers, even when they were in the the old div3.
Most city fans I know are philosophical about what's happened. 'we've won the lottery', 'should we spend millions on not winning?' and 'if it ends tomorrow it will have been a great ride but it won't be missed' are all comments made to me by die hard city fans. It's hard to imagine that level of humour or humility from man united or Chelsea fans so for that reason I hope they do it.
John O'Shea winning goal? Or Joey Barton? 😉
Make no mistake, it's all down to him that you've had success.
Hang on - I thought it was all down to bent referees, officials and press?
Nothing against Everton, if LFC didn't exist I'd be an evertonian
Without Everton, there would be no lfc.
The scum have being buying titles for years
Do you have any comprehension of the amount of money taken [i][b]out[/b][/i] of MUFC.
Do you have any comprehension [s]of the amount of money taken out of MUFC.[/s]
FTFY
I thought it was all down to bent referees, officials and press?
i think you may be mistaken in expecting his points to be rationally based.
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In recent years yes, but then yanks bleeding our clubs dry is a common theme these days it would seem....
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Hang on no-one's been on here yet to read this thread & complain about people talking about something that interests a lot of people...
Maybe they're all watching Britain's Got Talent.
In recent years yes, but then yanks bleeding our clubs dry is a common theme these days it would seem....
So the best way to sort out the problems in your club is to have a rantette about the scum, is it?
No, ranting about the scum is warranted regardless of whatever else is happening in the world. Plus, it'd take more than a rant about the scum to fix the problems at our place...
C'MON CITY!!!
No, ranting about the scum is warranted regardless of whatever else is happening in the world.
Yet the first to complain when anyone has a pop at Liverpool. Interesting.
C'MON CITY!!!
😆
ranting about the scum is warranted regardless of whatever else is happening in the world.
FALSE
Plus, it'd take more than a rant about the scum to fix the problems at our place
TRUE or you lot of [s]miserable sods[/s]happy go lucky scousers would be [s] EPL [/s] world beaters
HTH
Only when it comes to football would JY get a graph out. Jesus wept. Some people's sensibilities take all leave when it comes to anything about Liverpool and United. Sad really. 😐
EDIT: Jesus wept another tear...I've just noticed the CAPS as well. Calm down dear.
*makes Mancini type quacking-gesture-at-baconface*
Baconface does appear to have lost the mind games with Mancini this year - not happened before, usually he just makes the other managers meltdown.
Surely it's not a coincidence that his & Wenger's relationship has improved since Arsenal became less of a threat in the league
Anyway never mind Utd, Liverpool and City.
The real powerhouse behind world football is the mighty Albion. The last two guys through our Managerial Centre of Excellence at the Hawthorns used us as a springboard to Champions League finals and managing the national team.
Top 10 this year, it'll be our title next year....
Surely it's not a coincidence that his & Wenger's relationship has improved since Arsenal became less of a threat in the league
Of course it's not. He has always wielded too much power as an individual manager and used it to intimidate players, other managers - I could nearly forgive that, given that football is full of rotten bent individuals. However, it is the blatant, unpunished intimidation of referees which will always be a blemish on his character.
I is crapping myself. If any club could bollocks it up on a grand scale it's us.
United have been a poor shadow of themselves this season but yet it has still come down to us needing to do as well as or better than them in the last game of the season.
I am really worried. I might not go to the match. My daughter (and fellow season ticket holder) is near to tears.
I is crapping myself
I is crapping myself. If any club could bollocks it up on a grand scale it's us.
But it's the grand scale you should be looking at, when the money gets bored, it'll go and we'll still be marching on, on, on.
Liverpool, on the other hand, appear to have found their level without external money. Oh hang on...
we'll still be marching on, on, on.
Course you will, yeah.
it is the blatant, unpunished intimidation of referees which will always be a blemish on his character.
I am tempted to put up a graph * of the most punished manager but I will resist 😀 lets not let the facts get in the way of the debate eh 😉
The season we lost to Chelsea they scored two offside goals against us in each fixture to win them both and cost us the title and this was never in anyway
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SOMETHING IN CAPS TO SHOW FURY ETC
* dont get me started on global warming I go graph crazy 😛
Trick of the light that, JY.
You can clearly see Carroll is [u]not[/u] over the line. And he can nearly touch the ball. So [i][b]how[/b][/i] can the ball be over the line. Obviously it can't.
But I can see how, to some people, it does appear to be over.
M.O.T.
Oops sorry, .i meant
COME ON CITY
Mind you, it's pretty much saying the same thing for this one weekend 😈
Long suffering City fan here and I refuse to believe the title is won yet.
Long suffering City fan here and I refuse to believe the title is won yet.
As a footy fan, may the best team get the title, good luck.
Ex Man U fan here.
Come on City.
Ex Man U fan here.Come on City.
You, sir, are wrong.
(on many levels)
meanwhile, a pompey fan ponders if he'll have a team to support next season...
i still don't understand how united are still in with a shot. on paper this has to be one of the worst sides for years: no regular right back, ferdinand and vidic injured, a couple of oaps in midfield, a keeper still settling in. thank goodness for the attacking line.
You, sir, are wrong.
(on many levels)
Hehe - just kidding, but that does seem to be the modern football way. City must've gained many new fans this season. Some probably who recently supported teams who haven't won anything this year.
Wendyball, overpaid illiterate date rapists, thugs, chavball etc.
(I don't think this BTW, just that no-one had made any comments like it yet)
In 2006-07, for example, United were winning 15 times on entering stoppage time and referees added an average 194.53sec. In the four games when United were not winning there was an average of 217.25sec. The following year the disparity was greater, Opta's figures showing an average 178.29sec added when United were winning and 254.5sec when they were not. Last season it was 187.71sec compared to 258.6sec.The pattern has continued in the first three games of the season. In the two games United have led they have played an average 304sec of injury time. On Sunday, Atkinson allowed the game to go on for 415sec.
Not saying it's the only reason they win - Alex Ferguson is an absolute genius as a manager. He is also a bully though, and it's quite amusing to see Man U fans whinging about how money is ruining the game.
All the 'real' Man U fans I know support FC United instead now anyway. 😉
One of my best mates from school is a big Man City fan too and I know his pain from supporting what was for many years a bit of a joke of a club, so I'd like to see them do it.
I'm not going to get into a stats war (largely because I'm unarmed) but I remember someone looking at the "United get more penalties" stat. I think the conclusion was that we spend X% more time in the opposition box than average and get X% more penalties.
(this was back when Ronaldo was doing our diving for us, before Young).
It is possible that your "Fergie time" stat has a logical explanation too. [i]Maybe[/i] something along the lines that if we're losing in the 2nd half, we use all three subs. So more time is added. Maybe....
I'm not going to get into a stats war (largely because I'm unarmed)
no need the article the Grum linked from had an interesting point in the paragraph above the one he quoted
The average stoppage time added at Old Trafford in the period in question is below that given at Anfield, the Emirates Stadium and Stamford Bridge. United's is 205 seconds, compared to Liverpool's 210sec, Arsenal's 224sec and Chelsea's 229sec.
The average stoppage time added at Old Trafford in the period in question is below that given at Anfield, the Emirates Stadium and Stamford Bridge. United's is 205 seconds, compared to Liverpool's 210sec, Arsenal's 224sec and Chelsea's 229sec.
Well, the article doesn't specifically state if they did the research but it certainly implies that United have the highest stoppage time [b]when losing[/b] at home. I'm not sure how you think it would be favourable for Liverpool, Chelsea or Arsenal to get more stoppage time if they were already winning. 😉
In 48 games when United were ahead, the average amount of stoppage time was 191.35 seconds. In 12 matches when United were drawing or losing there was an average of 257.17sec.
So Man U's average stoppage time when losing at home is much greater than when they are winning, and greater than any other team's overall average. It doesn't say what the other team's average when losing at home is though.
and it's quite amusing to see Man U fans whinging about how money is ruining the game.
Anyone actually said this? Clubs thrive on money, a club that is paid for as part of an investment isn't going to work if there isn't success.
Just watch out.
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That's all I'm saying.
Come on the Irons.
It doesn't say what the other team's average when losing at home is though.
i know and the only comparison it does we have the least
imagine an anti man u rant with partial facts
who would have thunk it
i know and the only comparison it does we have the least
Eh?
More 'evidence' for you JY. 😉
http://footballisfixed.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/what-incredible-fluke-xxv_12.html
Qwality 😀
Although here is a peer-reviewed academic study (maybe?) -
Suggests that home bias is real - and given that Man U have over the premier league era probably averaged the biggest attendances out of any club (?), it would seem pretty logical that they do receive preferential treatment from referees. No conspiracy theories or tinfoil hats needed.
To the Man U Fans remember to loose graciously
To the City Fans remember to win graciously
To the Liverpool Fans We still owe you £30m in change from the Andy Carroll and Jose deals....
Come on the Baggies
Come on Fulham
Toon for the Champions League
Suggests that home bias is real
TRUE FOR ALL CLUBS AND SPORTS ODDLY
UNEVIDENCED HYPOTHESIS- and given that Man U have over the premier league era probably averaged the biggest attendances out of any club (?), it would seem pretty logical that they do receive preferential treatment from referees.
caps locks for DD
GGTTH
[u][b]STOP SHOUTING!!!!!![/b][/u]
Ah, the end on another season....bliss. Short term relief from all this nonsense. Oh, dam forgot Euro 2012!!! But this thread explains why we should feel proud that football in our national sport. Financial shenanigans keep the top teams afloat ( sic) and their fans provide the vitriole. What an wonderful example to us all...especially that lovely Mr Terry.
C'mon refs, blow the final whistles !!! Roll on 16:45
May the best team win btw!!!!
I've been a Man U fan ever since the start of the Premier League, so a lot longer than most people on here. I've never been to a game, but love watching the 'Red Devils' in 3D down the local pub, it really is like being there. It's probably better though, as me and my chums make more noise than the crowd on the telly. Sir Alex really should play Michael Owen more, that is his only failing ever.
13 years ago I watched City at Wembley, in that play-off game against Gillingham to escape the third tier of English football. Quite a remarkable time since then, today will be especially satisfying for City, the single game this season that's had the biggest bearing on goal difference (+5 City, -5 United) was that result at Old Trafford. So effectively it could be argued the title was won that day in October if it comes down to goal difference.
But may the best teams win, lose or draw graciously today.
13 years ago I watched City at Wembley, in that play-off game against Gillingham to escape the third tier of English football. Quite a remarkable time since
the 87th minute when Man City were 2-0 down & doomed to another season in division 3.
I did used to enjoy looking at the attendances when City were in that league, home or away the city games always had attendances higher than most division 1 & some premiership games.
Balotelli, Balotelli, Aguero, Dzeko, Silva, Dzeko.
If City had beaten United 2-1 instead of 6-1 in October, they would now be level on goal difference.
They deserve it for that day. 🙂
From the BBC footy website....
"Great overheard line from a jittery Man City fan outside the Etihad: 'I can't be doing with this sort of stress every 44 years'."
🙂
I know plenty of city fans they have indeed been through rough times and the support has always been there for their team
😛What an wonderful example to us all... those bankers,economists and financial types are.
I'm bricking myself here. Not used to this kind of nonsense.
I remember the Gillingham game. Listened to it up to the second Gillingham goal, thought it was all over. So went off in a huff. Mate comes over 10 mins later and asks me why I wasn't watching extra time... 😯
Utd currently champions... gulp...
C'mon City!!!!
Way to early to be that worried John
I feel sick.
Man city do a Man city shocker!! but they will win 2-0
Come on!
I feel sick now 😉
Squeaky bum time. 🙁
Pablo!
QPR will have to try hard now...
In a strange kind of way I'm more comfortable now.
Things are back to 'as expected' and a miracle [i]could[/i] still happen.
MMM QPR down as it stands should make for some tension in the second half......last minuter fergie time goal for them 8)