[Closed] 'Blackswan'... can someone explain to me what the point of this film was?

I thought it was meant to be a bout some woman slowly going mad or is that another film?

I think we've taken "what is the point" threads too far 😉

The last one got deleted 🙄

Sounds like it's something to do with an emo swan. Maybe it needs to undergo the goth to boss program.

The whole point of the film was the girly sexy scene.

I liked it. But maybe that's just because I'm much, much more intelligent and cultured than you.

The whole point of the film was the girly sexy scene.

Exactly!

I thought it was brilliant - the whole film that is, but the psychotic lesbianess added a whole other fantastic level.

Mila Kunis = hotness

I enjoyed the film, I'm sure there is some point to it but I don't care what it is. What's the point of the majority of films? To provide entertainment to the masses? Films don't have to have some special meaning to them.

The whole point of it was to make you so angry you posted on STW. Honestly, that's how important you are. 😆

I didn't really like it that much. Thought the first bit was good, then post girl sex scene/last half it went a bit weird for me. Shame as the trailors made it look pretty good.

Poppa... a bit like you and Masterchef then, eh... 😆

Loser.

its a way to waste 2 hours of your life earning brownie points with the GF, so later on she noshes you off whilst you think about mila kunis.

She was both swans in the ballet, but also in real life. Shocker.

watching a pretentious Channel perfume

^this is exactly what I thought
the optimal scene involving the two ladies was spoiled by the sound department deciding to dub it with a pig eating from a trough...

thought it was awful. maybe if youre obsessed with dance you might be able to empathise with the lead character. otherwise i found her character weak, (mental health issues aside). not a film for me.

Now office space from 1999 gets my vote.

PI was better.

its a way to waste 2 hours of your life earning brownie points with the GF, so later on she noshes you off whilst you think about mila kunis.

She was both swans in the ballet, but also in real life. Shocker.

forum gold? head in hands moment.

The point? To make money, so it worked for you.

Hey masterchef caused a national outrage, I was just a conduit for the zeitgest!

Stalker 😕

I'm with the OP on this one. It was rubbish. I actually came out and had to ask people around me if they thought it was as rubbish as I thought it was - They did. Its a bloated, cliched, deposit of a film.
I actually felt quite angry that all the film critics seems to have been in cahoots to give a really bad film a good review.
Then I found the genius of it - some of the first reviews essentially said that if you didn't think it was amazing then you're obviously not clever or cultured enough to understand it. Thus all the rest of the hack reviewers (who probably didn't actually watch the tripe)didn't want to appear dumb and lo and behold its up for an Oscar!
Time out has the best example of this - viewers reviews give black swan 2 stars, tabloid reviewers give it 5 out of 5.
That was 8 quid I could have spent on so many other things...

Like all good films and novels - it illuminates the human condition.

I thought Natalie Portman's acting was excellent, even though the film itself was utter tosh (if that makes sense). It all got a bit much for me when she supposedly topped the other dancer and stuffed her in a cupboard - I started laughing out loud at this point.

roger mellie way to ruin the film!

Anyone who writes 'People in liking different things shock', or similar type singletrackworld drivel has, quite frankly, the wit of an amoeba.

STW'er in amoebic-like failure to understand that some people do actually like different things and that's not a bad thing shocker.

It's a (supposedly clever) chick flick isn't it?

I could tell that from the review on Film 2011.

^^^^^ ARRRRGGGHHH!!!! Noooooooooo.... ^^^^^

It just [u]had[/u] to happen didn't it?

You do read The Sun, don't you.

I do understand that [i]people like different things[/i] - I'm fine with that. The point of my thread was to find out [i]why[/i]. I've explained why I thought it wasn't very good, despite the good reviews. Perhaps I was asking what it was I'd missed, not to be treated to such infantile inane comments?

Anyways, I've got a theory about this, 'cause there's been a number of quite frankly rubbish films I've seen over the last 2 years, each with supposed 'universal acclaim'. I'm quite sure that the speed of information spread with the internet nowadays means that few critics, if any, are prepared to actually stick their necks out and buck the precieved trend.

... all a bit like this place, come to think of it! 😉

I reluctantly went along with missus. Learn about the love scene and cheered up.

But I thought it was great. I took it as about obsession, mental illness and being delusional.

how does it compare with other aronofsky films?

i loved pi and requiem for a dream is amazing, the wrestler was good, the fountain was also good if a bit channel 5 tv movie in places

ps noidea stop being so obnoxious- art is subjective

there's been a number of quite frankly rubbish films I've seen over the last 2 years

If you had the self-awareness to understand the difference between objective reality, and your subjective perceptions, then you'd have a far better chance of understanding films like Black Swan.

HTH

It's a film about anxiety.

I got all evening to drink beer and play on the XBOX with the volume on really loud while my wife went to watch it with one of her mates.

That, my friends, is the whole point of films like that.

from a mental health point of view...i thought it was fantastic, from a directing point of view.... fantastic, acting... again fantastic.

certain films you have to be willing to open your mind and look out for the deeper stuff instead of expecting it on a plate like some directors do when trying to be clever. on the surface black swan is about a girl who goes a bit mad, look deeper and you'll find much more in my humble opinion.

liked it a lot, might watch it again.

Lesbians: not like it is in the movies.

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If you had the self-awareness to understand the difference between objective reality, and your subjective perceptions, then you'd have a far better chance of understanding films like Black Swan.

I haven't even got the self-awareness to understand what the f*** you're on about.

Blissfully spending a life staying away from arty farty, psycho-analytical twaddle.

look deeper and you'll find much more in my humble opinion

like what?
you shouldn't have to look much deeper though, it should be apparent

Is it a film about a pub ?

Perhaps subjective reality.

I thought it was good but I felt at times that Natalie Portman's acting was a bit (and I can't find the best way to put this) over acting. You notice the acting. Sounds a bit mealy mouthed now I think about it.

I also couldn't help but think of 'The Red Shoes' - a film about obsession in ballet. One big difference (apart from those grating 1940s clipped accents) is the amazing scene where Moira Shearer gets taken over in the dance. Wasn't quite so swept along in Black Swan.

Is the Kings Speech any better, or yet another over-hyped pile of shyte?

Every clip I've heard sounds mind numbingly dull.

If you had the self-awareness to understand the difference between objective reality, and your subjective perceptions, then you'd have a far better chance of understanding films like Black Swan.

Kings Speech is a couple of hours I want back.

Is not a film you can go to see with the missus for brownie points while secretly ogling Natalie Portman and not paying any attention to the plot?

Blissfully spending a life staying away from arty farty, psycho-analytical twaddle.

Except you paid beer vouchers to go and see it, then complain because you were required to think during the course of the movie.

Is the Kings Speech any better, or yet another over-hyped pile of shyte?

TBH I think you'd be better sticking to films with oily men, guns and loud explosions.

ditch_jockey - Member

Except you paid beer vouchers to go and see it, then complain because you were required to think during the course of the movie.

TBH I think you'd be better sticking to films with oily men, guns and loud explosions.

I didn't go and see it though, as I quite plainly knew it would be a pile of pretentious crap.

I'm perfectly happy with action films, horror films and a good thriller thanks. I've no need to go and watch some deep and meaningful, yet mindnumbingly boring pile of twaddle that bears no correlation to any other genre of media entertainment, or social interest in my life, thanks.

I've no need to go and watch some deep and meaningful, yet mindnumbingly boring pile of twaddle that bears no correlation to any other genre of media entertainment, or social interest in my life, thanks.

TBH I think you'd be better sticking to films with oily men, guns and loud explosions.

Sounds sexy.

i went expecting it to be a total waste of time and whilst it didn't bring richness to my soul it wasn't too bad and i don't even like overly skinny lasses so the lesbo scene wasn't a reason for watching it. i think i'd have found it better if i had some sort of empathy with obsessive people.

In future then ditch_jockey I'd suggest not even bothering to climb out of your own backside to pass comment on my posts.

bears no correlation to any other genre of media entertainment, or social interest in my life, thanks.

Not sure I understand this comment...?

Surely "psychological thriller" is a fairly mainstream genre?

I'm pretty sure that I wouldnt call Black Swan a psychological thriller on the basis that it wasnt thrilling or in any way psychological.

I'm pretty sure that I wouldnt call Black Swan a psychological thriller on the basis that it wasnt thrilling or in any way psychological.

Ahh, haven't seen the film, but was judging on what I'd heard here and elsewhere...