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the mision was to capture him, not asassinate
No it wasn't: They have openly said that the mission was to kill him, not capture him.
I'm not surprised at all at this: A captive OBL would be a seriously hot potato and probably cause more trouble than it was worth. He was never going to get a fair trial, plus any trial he did get may end up revealing some facts that the US may find more than a little embarrassing. The line is that he was killed "while resisting arrest".
I'm not yank bashin' - I feel sorry for the people who live there & are lied to by their government.
Yeah, and our government always tells us the truth ๐
Erm...
I stand corrected (and guilty of previously only reading that page up 623).
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I'm not yank bashin' - I feel sorry for the people who live there & are lied to by their government.
LOL - people in glass houses! Take a look at your own country first!
It's all a bit surreal.
Royal Wedding Friday, waking up to hear OBL is dead on Monday morning.
Next the UK will be out of debt....
oh and quality writing from the Guardian there:
[b]None of the Americans was killed[/b]. ****stani co-operation "helped to lead us to him" he said.
Sir Elton John has said he's releasing a tribute song, its going to be called 'Sandals In The Bin'
In other news, Chuck Norris returns from vacationing in ****stan...
One thing that I don't see in any reports - was the ****stani government informed / aware of a US team operating in its territory?
Edit -found some comments looking like ****stan is accepting of it
Just walked around my local Netto and all the underclass are talking excitedly in the shop about it.
He's dead, said one old codger - his friend replied, is that the punchline.
Other's from the blue rinse brigade announced to each other how it was about time and he shouldn't want for the hotness of hell.
Chav's in tracksuits and pushchairs were talking about it as if it was The End of Days.
While back in the real world, all I can say is "So what?" what exactly does it mean for me in my everyday life? Not much, some man who lived in a cave and is claimed to have orchestrated a terrosist attack is dead.
oh and quality writing from the Guardian there:None of the Americans was killed. ****stani co-operation "helped to lead us to him" he said.
I don't get what you're getting at.
Just caught the news, they say he was shot in the head twice, identified by DNA and then buried at sea?????
Am i missing something here......seriously?
then buried at sea?????
Yeah, that smells a bit fishy...
Sir Elton John has said he's releasing a tribute song, its going to be called 'Sandals In The Bin'
Sorry, but that gag was used up when Mother Theresa died.
Bigbloke my SAS buddy said: double tap the head to make sure they are dead, positive ID via most uncompromised method possible, body at sea so it's not a focus for further intrest.
Surely the CIA types will have released to the insurgent groups pics as proof of death, otherwise it will turn into a massive conspiracy theory that it did not happen etc etc
Or am i already caught up in the theories.....blimey ๐
Sorry, but that gag was used up when Mother Theresa died.
What, the joke was already used up a day before Diana's funeral? that was pretty impressive, worlds shortest lived joke at minus one day!
bigbloke - MemberJust caught the news, they say he was shot in the head twice, identified by DNA and then buried at sea?????
Am i missing something here......seriously?
Are you suggesting that it might not be true and is just a bit of US spin?
If that's so and Bin Laden is still alive, how will Obama explain the reappearence through video?
And how important is it not to have an easily accessible tomb for the followers to make a shrine out of?
DS...yes initially, as i posted i just caught the news, just sounded a bit unusual.
Won't make a bit of difference to the fighters, probably just stir them up even more but obviously it will hopefully bring some solace for relatives of the recent Islamic terror attacks.
Seems the US have done something you'd never see in the UK; took the Bins out on a bank holiday.
LOL - people in glass houses! Take a look at your own country first!
I distrust my government too & feel equally sorry for us! We'll never know the truth about OBL though.
I reckon OBL has defected to the US and his death is fake to protect him from harm.......honest ๐
Wyre Forest District council collected the bins today, as they do every bank holiday Monday
He can run but he cannot hide.
Karma has finally caught up with him.
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p/s: oh well ... need to have my hair cut now ... back to work tomorrow ... arrghhhh ....
Karma has finally caught up with him.
No - he wouldn't have cared about being killed. Unlike 3,000 New York office workers.
One thing that I don't see in any reports - was the ****stani government informed / aware of a US team operating in its territory?
He was living in a huge compound next to the ****stan military academy and not far from Islamabad. I think it is inconceivable that no one in the ****stani government or intelligence services knew he was there and were complicit in hiding him. Given that its hardly surprising the US took action without involving or informing the ****stanis except once it was all over.
molgrips - MemberNo - he wouldn't have cared about being killed. Unlike 3,000 New York office workers.
I bet he will change his mind once he has realised that no virgins are waiting for him the pearly gate ... except my friend the brazen bull. ๐
apologies for:b)swearing.
No need.......everyone loves a tough-talking yank in a cowboy hat.
everyone loves a tough-talking yank in a cowboy hat.
where do you pay for such a service ?
Buried at sea? Didn't they learn their lesson with Megatron?
The American celebrations are in extremely poor taste imo - massively hypocritical too. A country that likes to claim christian principles should remember that Jesus wasn't keen on the concept of revenge.
Imagine the outrage if, say, George W Bush or Tony Blair (who are responsible for many many times more civilian deaths than Bin Laden) was assassinated by a Muslim country's special forces - then we saw footage of thousands of people of that country dancing and celebrating in the streets.
And there is definitely something very fishy about all this. He was widely reported to be very ill and/or to have died in 2001, since when I don't think he has released any videos or been seen anywhere? Anyone would think there is an unpopular US president with an election coming up or something....
I'm interested in the buried at sea bit. I'm sure he was but I also heard (on BBC news I think)that the US helicopters that did the raid started from Afghanistan. So did they fly the body back to Afghanistan, then load it on a plane then on to 'the sea' or what? It's not like the mission started (and ended) from aircraft carriers so they could just throw him over the side (with all due respect etc).
Anyone know any more?
A country that likes to claim christian principles should remember that Jesus wasn't keen on the concept of revenge.
Innaccurate claimants ignoring the alleged sayings of a non-existant super-fairy. So what.
Imagine the outrage if, say, George W Bush or Tony Blair (who are responsible for many many times more civilian deaths than Bin Laden) was assassinated by a Muslim country's special forces - then we saw footage of thousands of people of that country dancing and celebrating in the streets.
Oh, you mean like all the gormless Muslim types jumping up and down with rage and burning flags everytime someone suggests there's something wrong with their despicable beheading, mysoginistic, violent, homophoboc, anti-human excuse for a culture? Pfft.
And there is definitely something very fishy about all this.
Yeah, only cod can judge him now. How's the tinfoil hat?
All i'll say is good riddance.
Oh, you mean like all the gormless Muslim types jumping up and down with rage and burning flags everytime someone suggests there's something wrong with their despicable beheading, mysoginistic, violent, homophoboc, anti-human excuse for a culture? Pfft.
Ummm, I am no fan of Islam either, just pointing out the massive hypocrisy - those Americans out celebrating the murder of another human being are probably the very same that get all upset when some evil foreigners burn their precious flag.
Yeah, only cod can judge him now. How's the tinfoil hat?
No of course, everything we are told is always true, and the American government would never lie or distort the truth to suit their own ends would they? Anyone who believes anything else is a crazy conspiracy theorist.
Eg: Iraq/WMDs, Vietnam/Tonkin incident, Allende in Chile etc etc etc etc
is it good to celebrate death?
did we celebrate when adolf passed away?
Oh, you mean like all the gormless Muslim types jumping up and down with rage and burning flags everytime someone suggests there's something wrong with their despicable beheading, mysoginistic, violent, homophoboc, anti-human excuse for a culture? Pfft.
Come, Woppit, and I shall introduce to to some Muslims. Muslims who condemn the actions and rants of a fanatical minority.
Come. Don't just spout off on an internet forum; if you truly believe in what you say. Come, and I shall give you the opportunity to say exactly what you want, to the very people whose culture you insult.
'Anti-Human'; this, from a person who doesn't believe in other Human Beings right to practice whatever religion they choose...
ah excellent racism and Whoppit going on about religion ๐
I'm pleased they're partying and feel happy for them. I feel nothing but contempt for the Muslim flagburners and would recommend that all Americans feel that way about it too.
Describing Usama bin-Bag as a human being is not so much stretching credibility as smashing it up and jumping up and down on the bits. The slimy bottom feeder he had it coming.
If you can think of one good reason why the Americans are lying about the shots to the head, the DNA testing, the face matching and the dumping of the garbage at sea, when to be found out would be the biggest PR disaster in the history of mankind, please share it.
Well, Woppit? What have you to say about my invitation?
Come on, it's an excellent opportunity for you to say what you feel, in a 'real life' situation.
Fred.
Huge crowds of "offended" Muslims burning flags and weeping over some pointed comment about the vile culture you find in places like ****stan and Saudi Arabia - stoning women to death, chopping off limbs, persecutions and other outrages, are not the actions of a minority.
Stop obfuscating. It suits you, but it's nonsense.
elfin give over reasoning with pastor Whoppits of the church of the Intolerant is like trying to polish a turd.... pointless and unlike to achieve much.
the irony of his firebrand preaching of intolerance of others way of life whilst criticising people for doing the same [ not all Muslims are as he describes in fact a very small minority ] is a thing to behold.
What grum as well there seems little to choose between the americans doing this, the Muslims doing this Whoppit ranting about other folk ranting all seem broadly similiar tbh.
OBL was a key financial figure to ALQ'. He funded the works of evil men who hate the west, freedom & free thinking. The fighting will not stop because he is dead. In fact, unfortunately I'd have to agree with those that have already speculated that revenge attacks are likely soon.
Americans dancing in New York this morning reminded me very much of when the trade centre fell & the middle east danced.
What about the millions of other Muslims worldwide, including the hundreds of thousands here in London alone? I can't speak for every other area where Muslims live, but right here, I jolly well have not seen widespread scenes that you describe.
I'm offering you the chance to speak to some real live Muslims; not just ranty fundamentalist ones the Western Media are so keen to show.
Come on, what's stopping you? What's stopping you doing something that might actually give you another perspective on matters, other points of view?


