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That is right American foreign policy [ you do know he worked and was trained by the CIA]has never led to the deaths of anyone and certainlty not innocent civilians and has in no way contributed to the strength of negative feeling towards than benign altrustic bringer of peace the world over
FFS even the Guardian describe Bin Ladden as
the criminal mastermind behind
Makes him sound like a Bond Villan
I hear Donald Trump's been on TV demanding to see his death certificate ๐
I did hear him referred to as an evil genius this morning. When will Osama's Evil Petting Zoo open?
Whoppit I never had you down as a Gung Ho Hawk most of those who feel like you in tthe USA are also thanking God HTH
On this occasion it gets my full approval.
Next - al-Zawahiri and then Mullah Omar and then any more of the scumbags that can be found.
US policy has been subject to massive errors of perception on all sorts of levels. This is largely due to their own misunderstanding of the limits of their power and and a cultural ignorance of how other countries and cultures work.
Bush's tendency (with encouragement from the idiot Blair) to ignore the advice of UK "Arabists" led to all sorts of short-sighted errors that have compounded the difficulties.
However, one gets the sense that Obama's leadership, which seems to have a steadier hand on the tiller so to speak, is beginning to reap rewards.
As far as the general thrust of US and UK policy is concerned - oppose and fight Islamic terrorism on all possible levels - I'm completely on side.
Oh, and people can thank whatever version of the Big Pink Unicorn that they like. Makes no difference to my own satisfaction with the outcome.
even the Guardian describe Bin Ladden asthe criminal mastermind behind
To be fair, hatching a plan which involved a handful of blokes armed only with stanley knives, to highjack planes so that they could be flown into buildings, requires the mind of a genius. What if they had bought those stanley knives without the retractable blades ? .....one of the terrorists might have accidentally cut themselves whilst boarding the plane and the whole operation would have been jeopardised. No, definitely the work of an evil genius mind.
Well that's the price of fuel going up again then!
I feel sorry for the grave diggers
I imagine there are probably families of people who died in 9/11 are feeling a measure of closure.
If only killing one man would solve the issues.
If only killing one man would solve the issues
God?
Well done US. He was not a nice man.
Now, do I still have to go to Afghanistan this summer?
If only killing one man would solve the issues
God?
Surely that involves killing three men (father, son, holy [s]goat[/s]ghost) ๐
Well done US. He was not a nice man
Neither is TJ but I don't want him killed ๐
Seriously though - it's not going to make any difference. Whoever thinks all this mess is down to one person is being very silly.
Neither is TJ but I don't want him killed
Speak for yourself.
Reuters reporting that they traced him through his sony playstation account details!
I hear he was just about to complete level 76 on "Kill the infidels III" also.
LOL at crispo.
"Protecting the earth from the scum of the universe". ๐
Neither is TJ
I think that's unfair. I have it on good authority that he's a nice bloke.
Speak for yourself.
Woppit, on the other hand....
I thought they'd found him via his iPhone tracking his every move??
I think that's unfair
It was, and I apologise unreservedly. It was a cheap shot and I was trying to get back at him for making me feel bad earlier in the week.
I'm glad he was buried at sea.
Only cod can judge him now.
Will we see the same jubilant scenes when Bush and Blair pop their clogs?
I do hope so.
Although there is one scumbayg whose death is far more imminent, I'd imagine, and I for one shall definitely be celebrating...
(Polishes dancing shoes)
Best not mention her name though cos some people get a bit tetchy over it.
Seen the picture, he's been dying his beard/hair
Well then, I can certainly see why they're describing him as an "evil genius". No wonder it took so long to find him with that sort of cunning in play.
a nice gesture would be to split the $25 million dollar bounty between the unit that did the job.
Incidentally they could have found him years ago, just track who was buying all the C90 cassettes and VHS blank videos in ****stan, now that everyones moves onto Blu Ray and MP3
Every day that disgusting lunatic drew breath was an effrontery to the ideals of democracy and civilisation.
Sadly until religious fanaticism of all persuasions is removed from this planet, we will continue to see needless death for the sake of a human fantasy that indulges in the belief and worship of supernatural entities.
this stinks - so many questions
why oh why would they not parade his head on a spike after pursuing him for 10 years?
why did it take so long to find someone living in a house in a city?
how can USA swoop into a foreign country and publicly assassinate someone?
where is the body? Where are the WMDs?
2441 members of coalition military forces dead in Afghanistan alone - was it worth it?
Why did OBL attack the US in the first place?
I really hope the USA put the same amount of effort into changing their foreign policy and the way they conduct themselves on a global scale as they did into reacting to a terrorist attack.
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Best not mention her name though cos some people get a bit tetchy over it.
Too late, Mo Mowlam has already snuffed it.
I have a feeling he's been dead for a few days.
Best not mention her name though....
Unfortunately she was too unwell to make the wedding at the weekend.
well i've heard that osama bin laden is barack obama - and here is a video that proves it.....
Now there's a real reason for an extra bank holiday and a street party.
USA USA USA USA USA......
got to loves the yanks ๐
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I have a feeling he's been dead for a few days.
Did a good job of the cover up then, getting local residents to Twitter about helicopters overhead last night
http://twitter.com/#!/ReallyVirtual
[quote=Elfinsafety](Polishes dancing shoes)
That burial at sea option is looking better all the time ๐
why oh why would they not parade his head on a spike after pursuing him for 10 years?
er, cos that would be slightly inflamatory, offensive and insensitive? (and sick)
why did it take so long to find someone living in a house in a city?
i imagine a lot of the time he wasn't living there? perhaps in the caves he used? plus i imagine intelligence gathering takes a long time - you'd not want to screw it up, would you?
how can USA swoop into a foreign country and publicly assassinate someone?
he died in a firefight, not an assassination - asassinations are internationally illegal for such people. the mision was to capture him, not asassinate - however i imagine (as someone else pointed out), that capturing someone who was probably being guarded by armed men, none of whom are going to be scared of death, isn't going to be too easy.
where is the body?
in the sea. for a range of reasons that have already been covered on here and in the media.
Why did OBL attack the US in the first place?
for a whole range of reasons - some delusional, some 'religious', probably some to do with economic reasons etc.
of course, i'm sure the tinfoil hat wearers will find some other answers.
why oh why would they not parade his head on a spike after pursuing him for 10 years?
They disposed of the body according to Islamic tradition. Demonstration of respect takes away fuel from the fanatics.
They disposed of the body according to Islamic tradition.
Rubbish. They (supposedly) buried his body at sea to stop people digging it up.
Demonstration of respect takes away fuel from the fanatics.
I suspect that you give them too much credit. Fanatics (on either side) aren't renowned for being reasonable.
Islamic tradition would have had the body hauled through his home town or Mecca with hundreds of thousands of supporters following in its wake.
bin laden dead you say.well there was no mention of it on bbc news ๐
I've never felt happy because of the death of anyone before. It's great news IMO.
Cod rest his sole.
Since he was found living well in a rather populated area, am i safe to assume from those videos of him in the hills that he just enjoyed walking holidays?
They disposed of the body according to Islamic tradition.
Rubbish. They (supposedly) buried his body at sea to stop people digging it up.
Erm...
[url= http://www.seaservices.com/Muslim.htm ]
[/url]623. * If a person dies on a ship and if there is no fear of the decay of the dead body and if there is no problem in retaining it for sometime on the ship, it should be kept on it and buried in the ground after reaching the land. Otherwise, after giving Ghusl, Hunut, Kafan and Namaz-e-Mayyit it should be lowered into the sea in a vessel of clay or with a weight tied to its feet. And as far as possible it should not be lowered at a point where it is eaten up immediately by the sea predators.624. If it is feared that an enemy may dig up the grave and exhume the dead body and amputate its ears or nose or other limbs, it should be lowered into sea, if possible, as stated in the foregoing rule.
So you're both right, sort of. No need to argue/try to appear cleverer than each other.
Elfin 'Peacemaker' Safety.
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I spose one good thing to come from this story is that it has knocked the flippin' Royal Wedding off the top news slots... ๐
Since he was found living well in a rather populated area, am i safe to assume from those videos of him in the hills that he just enjoyed walking holidays?
A Rambler??
What if he'd bin ( ๐ฎ ) a mountain biker? Would he be deserving of greater sympathy?
Roadie?
And as far as possible it should not be lowered at a point where it is eaten up immediately by the sea predators.
Lol. Aka thrown to the sharks ๐ I'd have thought this was common sense!
Osama is dead but we'll never know the truth about how. USA will perhaps lie about gun fights & bravado 'no American was killed in this instance' what heroes.
I'm not yank bashin' - I feel sorry for the people who live there & are lied to by their government.
Obama said in his election in 2008 'We will kill OBL'. He will be assured of re-election now. If OBL was found dead of natural causes, would that have the same effect on the public when voting time comes again. ๐
