Better Call Saul

Oh Kim 🤦‍♂️

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Silencing the explosion (from Twitter)

Blimey! Wasn't expecting that!

My guess is Kim somehow kills the gangster so has to go into hiding.

Absolutely magnificent.

Arguably, Howard did nothing wrong in the whole series.

Real marked moment for Kim and now they both have to go to ground because of the suspicion Howard raised with cliff about Kim and Saul.

Brilliant

Or front it out.

Well, I guess Howard got pranked pretty good there. Reminds me of Christopher Walken on SNL.

Ooh it’s back.

Ohhh when?

Well, I didn't expect that.

I worked it out after watching the PTS.
New Mike had to be involved in that 😉

Brilliant

Oof. Quite the episode.

Damn. I've just caught up with what I think was the mid-season break, so if it's just restarted I have one in hand. I think.

The last ep I watched was the

is that where we’re all at bar one new episode?

No, that was the new episode. Five more to come.

I'm a bit ambivalent about this. Yes, I understand it's a tribute to a fictional show not to murderous drug dealers, but a lot of fans hated on Anna Gunn because they thought Walt was a hero and Skylar was a naggy killjoy, total misunderstanding the point of the show.

https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1546952162030256128

I’m a bit ambivalent apathetic about this

... cos I ain't ever gonna find myself in Albuquerque (tough to spell that, too)

I can see mike losing his sh*t at some point.

Well. That was great.

I’m a bit ambivalent about this. Yes, I understand it’s a tribute to a fictional show not to murderous drug dealers, but a lot of fans hated on Anna Gunn because they thought Walt was a hero and Skylar was a naggy killjoy, total misunderstanding the point of the show.

Nah, the real reason this is problematic is that the statue should be of Jimmy.

Or maybe Mike.

Was that Kim on the speakerphone at the end?

Well, that episode (probably) eliminated by theory about how the finale would play out.

Was that Kim on the speakerphone at the end?

It was the receptionist, he was asking her to send through the first client.

I don't think we'll see Kim again, there's a pretty big time jump that's happened, we're now in the breaking bad timeline.

I think the last episode illustrates that Kim leaving is the final step in Jimmy completely becoming Saul.

I reckon Vince Gilligan wrote that episode to make the audience think Kim has gotten out.

I don’t think we’ll see Kim again, there’s a pretty big time jump that’s happened, we’re now in the breaking bad timeline.

You say that but,

The timeline jumps all over the damn place. I expect that the next episode will start out as though that last scene never aired. It's a seed.

I think the last episode illustrates that Kim leaving is the final step in Jimmy completely becoming Saul.

But there's a gap, and a few more episodes to go.

I think the entire point of this show is bugger all to do with the titular character, rather it's documenting Kim's fall from grace (mirroring BB). The "final step" for Jimmy given that Kim isn't in Breaking Bad surely has to be her death.

What I'm not quite sure of is where the Gene (Cinnabon) arc fits in.

*cough*
have you seen the cast list for the next episode
*cough*

Kim has to die. She knows too much.

Stunning episode incidentally. The scene in which Mike talked to Nacho's dad was incredibly framed. At one point the screen was vertically split with mike behind a chain link fence while Nacho's dad was in the open. A great illustration of freedom v. (effective) imprisonment to the life they'd both chosen.

have you seen the cast list for the next episode

Yes, Mark Proksch is in it.

Or did you mean someone else?

Probably meant Jesse and Walter ;0)

Reading the description I’d guess Jesse and Walt too. I think the writers have played it well and we simply won’t see Kim again.

Nice to see Rhea Seehorn finally getting some acknowledgement for her performance. Nominated for an Emmy at last.

I thought Howard was a stand out too.

Honestly, the entire thing - BCS and BB - has been a masterclass in casting and cinematography from the outset. I'd love to have been a fly of the wall when they were looking for an actor for the lead in BB and someone said "hey, I know, how about the dad from Malcolm in the Middle?"

this is what did it....

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have you seen the cast list for the next episode
*cough*

Ooooh that's interesting! But I guess we are 'upto date now' and into the world of BB. I think the last few episodes will be post BB / Cinabon / Sauls downfall and possible reunion with Kim.

Rhea (and Bob's) acting in this last episode was great - their internal pain/trauma but having to go about their normal business was conveyed so well. And Kim with Howards wife!!!!!

What I’m not quite sure of is where the Gene (Cinnabon) arc fits in.

It's clearly beyond the end of BB. Remember the scene in the mall where someone recognises him as Saul which he denies and the guy cajoles him into saying "Better Call Saul". Coupled with the scenes from this series of the authorities searching his mansion, it's pretty obvious the Gene timeline is him on the run

There's a cast reunion vid on YouTube where vince gilligan talks about Bryan cranstons casting. He'd worked with him on x files in a walteresque role.

that was a bit of a curve ball 😀 bunch of teasers!

Bit of a waste of an episode with so much to tie up in the remaining few?

Yep

Agreed

What is point?

Easily my favourite episode of the season so far!

I think the point there is that he will always be Slippin Jimmy, he can't change. After Howard's death, Kim realized she needed to get out, but Jimmy is just a con-man at heart. The Mr. Cinnabon stuff at the start made it look like he'd learned his lesson and was staying under the radar but now he's back in the game.