Nice video, good sound. However.....
You know how artists are sending cease and desist notices to Trump to stop him using their music - if Green Day see your video and catch sight of that trackie bottoms and slippers combination, expect a lawyer's letter
well the Rumble 100 is here so ive had a bit of a play, goes loud doesnt it 😀
ive been reading the bumph on the different dials and trying to work out what each one sounds like as i turn them up/down. i think to my untrained ear theres just too much choice which isnt a bad thing.
the 3 bright/contour/vintage buttons i'll leave for now.
i dont really understand Gain. i thought that was to distort the sound but then again i also thought that was Overdrive and i have both to choose from.
i dont have a clue about bass/low mid/high mid/treble either, or how theyd boost or negate the P, J and tone knobs on my bass. i certainly dont think i need any sort of pedal to muddy the waters even further at this stage.
i'll probably do a chatgpt on what settings would sound best for particular songs. ive got 16 songs i can 'play' at the moment, with a variety of genres, so i guess if i was playing them all the way through on my deezer playlist, id need to keep tweaking the dials, so i ought to make a note of how to set them for each song.
a lot of experimenting ahead, this'll keep me busy for a while.
On valve/tube amps the gain increases the potential across the valves which at some point saturate and start to compress and distort. The gain control on transistor amps imitates that. So saturation caused by increasing the gain.
The output from the instrument is what comes out of the pickups unless they're active, and it's not a lot. An overdrive pedal increases that output so the pre-amp valves get a bigger signal, which they will cope with without distorting only up to a point and then get saturated. So overdrive is saturation caused by the input into the amp being higher than it can cope with. Overdrive pedals also incorporate a circuit to imitate the breakup caused by sturation so you can get distortion at low volume.The overdrive on your transistor amp imitates that sort of saturation which sounds different to gain saturation.
The other type of distortion you'll get with your Rumble is when you turn it up far enough both the transistors and speaker fail to cope and it sounds plain dirty.
When I used a Rumble I didn't get beyond finding the point at which the gain gave a little bit of crunch with the volume as loud as it would go without getting dirty. Trust your ears. I bet you end up with very few combinations of settings, probably just a couple that cover pretty much everything you play: clean and high gain.
The gain dial has a bigger effect if you put the “vintage” switch on. (The switch itself mainly gives you a rounder bassier sound)
the 3 bright/contour/vintage buttons i'll leave for now.
As the owner of a Rumble 40, I’d say these are the easiest to understand and the first ones you should experiment with.
Set the Gain and EQ knobs to 12 o’clock, then try the style knobs to see how they sound. They are like preset EQs for different styles, that can then also be tweaked with the knobs.
For Overdrive, combine Gain and Drive to get a sound you like, then use the Level knob to balance the volume. Ideally you want it to be roughly the same as your clean volume, unless you are looking for an aggressive jump.
Loads of suggested setting for different styles on google.
New Bass owner here and a complete novice... Can anyone suggest some decent youtube / app based lessons to get started with??
i can definitely recommend the Beginner to Badass course on Bassbuzz. Josh is a great teacher and injects a bit of humour into the course too. you can find plenty of free Bassbuzz lessons on youtube too but the course has a good structure to it that builds you up from zero knowledge and experience to hopefully be good enough to jam with mates/groups. you get to keep the course too, so you can revisit it as many times as you wish.
there's loads of good stuff here, the Scotts bass lesson has a beginner channel.
Main thing to remember is play soft, you don't need lots of pressure pushing the string onto the fretboard or plucking with the other hand. Keep your thumb behind the neck
Keep your thumb behind the neck
Why? I use my thumb on the E and sometimes A strings on some songs. Get Down Get with It by Slade for example - much easier than using only fingers.
Keep your thumb behind the neck
Why? I use my thumb on the E and sometimes A strings on some songs. Get Down Get with It by Slade for example - much easier than using only fingers.
Because it leads to poor finger position in most situations, especially for beginners. There is a difference between doing it intentionally in certain situations and doing it all the time.
I’ve been playing for two years and my biggest piece of advice is try all the free trials you can, then pick the teacher or program you gel with best and stick with it. Everyone explains the same thing differently and you will understand one way better than others. That way you get a consistent terminology. Paying for a beginner program may seem daft with all the free you tube out there, but a structured program is a real benefit.
@miky2341 another consideration along with the bassbuzz course, mark at talkingbass has got a new year sale on and ive just seen he has the 'starter pack beginner course bundle' for around half the price of the B2B course.
i havent done that course myself, i did the bassbuzz course, but mark is well respected and ive just bought his Creative Bassist course in the sale which is a logical next step up from beginner. talkbass is generally well thought of and im sure you wouldnt go wrong with either option. pretty sure you can get a refund on either if you try them and dont get on with them for any reason.
Because it leads to poor finger position in most situations
I won't link all the vids I've watched but I've just typed the names of all of my favourite bass players into Youtube with a song name and they were all playing with their thumb over the top to either mute (especially when playing with a pick) or fret. John Deacon thumb over muting(under presure), Jimmy Lea thumb over fretting, John Mac Vie thumb on top of neck sometimes muting, Glen Matlock thumb over or on top... Rather than dos and don'ts for a beginner I think it's better to say be flexible, do whatever feels comfortable and feels/sounds best. Like Mark King here who's thumb is all over the place but always in the right place.
been round my mates house this afternoon to return his amp and acoustic guitar that i borrowed to try out 6 string chords.
took my new amp which he was impressed with and we had a bit of a noodle around on both bass and 6 string. end result.....
i need to control my strumming more. with the pick im hitting everything on down strokes, (a la dee dee ramone of course :D) watching him, he pretty much anchors his hand with pinky below the strings, side of his palm almost muting everything near the bridge and hes accurately doing economy strokes, up and down, almost effortlessly.
with his decent 6 string, i found i was a bit better at barre chords so i may persevere with it. ive bought a triple guitar stand so i think i'll aim for 2 basses and a cheapo electric 6 string to practice on every now and then.
So I've signed up to Talking Bass and bought the beginners starter pack, got a discount code on signing up and it worked out at just over £53 - seams a great price! Now to get started!
Excellent! Enjoy the journey.
I haven’t played in a month as we’ve been on a family road trip and it’s the one thing I’m looking forward to when we get back.
Back from travels and back playing again, I really missed it. Gave me a chance to look critically at my playing. Been playing 2 years now and progressing nicely. Using SBL and been working through the style courses. First 2/3rds of them are ok but then run into a skill block and not good enough yet to play the more difficult later material. I also don’t do any structured practice. I just pick up the bass and play what I fancy. Which brings me to the next part. I can’t play any full songs from memory. I can remember riffs and shorter passages, but apart from a basic 12 bar blues, I couldn’t play along to anything without sheet music in from of me.
So my plan for this year is to stick to some structured practice and learn some songs. I bought the technique accelerator course on SBL which is a 26 week course of 20 minute per day exercises. Oh my god, they’re repetitive and boring. I suppose that’s the point, to ingrain the movements so they become second nature but it’s only day three and it’s hard. I’m hoping once I’m in the routine it become easier.
In the past few months I’ve been using Tomplay instead of Yousician and have been enjoying a different variety of songs. It is pretty (too) easy to get ok at playing through a song then moving to the next one, so I’ve picked three that I want to commit to memory. Learning to Fly, Sunday Girl and Stacey’s Mom. All fairly easy technique wise, with repeated phrases, but interesting enough that I want to play them again and again.
Just posting this as a bit of external accountability. Wish me luck.
Good luck.
Also - anyone play acoustic bass?
Just dropping in with a quick confession.
I haven't played bass for months. Probably since summer. I can't even remember stopping.
No sure what to do next or how to get started again. I need a challenge or something to work towards.
Having people to play with would be a good incentive but I don't know anyone. I'm confined to this tiny bedroom which isn't very inspirational.
Anyone want to buy a Squier P or Mexican J?*
*joke
I am the same, at some point last autumn life, stress and a bit of depression meant it faded from my priorities, and it has been left untouched for so long I have to go back to near the start. Same with sport and exercise, the good things in life that I know deep down would help me out of this funk just seem so hard to even start at the moment.
You need the funk, just a different sort.
Don't beat yourself up, life happens.
”Having people to play with would be a good incentive but I don't know anyone.”
So my recent discovery is local jam nights. I’m naturally a sort of bandleader/songwriter type of bassist, to the point that I’ve only been in four bands over the years and I started all of them and in the most recent two I wrote all the songs. However, getting a band to work when you’re all adults with jobs, kids, etc is a bit of a palaver - my current one is on hiatus due to drummer life chaos…
As a relative beginner I don’t recommend you go to anything too scary but see what’s happening with local blues / rock jams. Bassists are always outnumbered. Go along and have a listen and get involved if you think you can fake your way through! 😉
I’ll upload some of clips of my outings if I can figure out how…
“Also - anyone play acoustic bass?”
Do you mean acoustic bass guitar (if so, yes!) or double bass (no but I always enjoy trying one!)?
currently enjoying the talkingbass 'creative bassist' course. theres been a few 'aha' moments on memorising the fretboard and improvising roots/fifths/octaves around the fretboard and im getting better at finding notes altho it still takes me a few seconds to work it out.
i consider that and the initial bassbuzz course money well spent and i have them for life so can just revisit them if i want to at any time, itd be a good measure of progress.
currently only ever gravitate towards my pink ashdown so im selling the squier PJ (hopefully today), thatll just leave me the one bass and a 6 string cort that i bought to practice chords on. long(er) term i still have an itch for a nice dedicated precision.
so presently my routine seems to be slowly working my way through the talkingbass course, periodically going through my 15 song repertoire to prevent forgetfulness, and then ever now and then doing another justinguitar lesson and seeing if i can progress a little on 6 string (answer, i cant 😀 ).
bass is definitely my favourite tho and as @sharkattack above, itd be good if i had a few mates to jam with but i only have a couple that i seldom see. dont fancy lugging my bass into town for a jam night with strangers, dont feel ready for that and not sure i ever will.
just bought the talkingbass pentatonic playbook course as his offer finishes tonight and i thought its something id probably be interested in at a later date. i ummed and ahhed about it for a week or so thinking ive probably spent more than id have liked on these online courses but i thought id rather spend £60 now than nearer £100 in a few months time. thats it tho now!! no more money on courses, ive got more than id ever need as the content to hand now will be far better than i'll ever be.
ive sold the squier affinity now, and as mentioned above, i'll keep an inquisitive eye on ebay/marketplace for a decent precision, then thatll do me, no need for any more basses, guitars or courses 😀
im also digging into theory a bit more, modes is my latest rabbithole. i'll probably never need them but for those times when its not viable to have the bass in my hand, im enjoying reading and learning too. its all good.
Visiting family this week where my bass has been stashed for probably 20 years.
Me and my younger son have retrieved it (a 1990's Aria SLB-2) from the loft and treated it to a new set of 45s. I had forgotten how nice it is to play especially with fresh strings and my old Laney amp (amazed that still works after 20 years in storage and it was far from new back then).
Also got my Ibanez ex370 out for my son and treated that to some strings before braking one of the stupid bridge saddles due to a seized bolt.
I am slightly surprised at how much I can remember of playing as a teen / early 20s. I'm just pleased that I can rumble out a few recognisable bass lines and the younger one wants to learn a bit of guitar so I think we might be able to do this side by side.
Is there a good source of tab these days? Even when I played traditional instruments I struggled with sheet music.
Think it's a choice between songsterr or ultimate guitar. They're a bit flaky and the right tab is often somewhere between the two.
Almost every song seems to have a bass cover on YouTube with scrolling tab on screen. That’s where I always start looking first
This is the best bass channel that I know of.
https://youtube.com/@coversolutions?si=D0ze7XkSK-cxxHXR
Another quick question from my rummaging in the parents' loft this week for bass and guitar bits.
I have an old Laney Session Bassman 40 from the 80s/90s. I was always fond of it's slightly earthy/ rough tone but it's a big beast and overkill for some domestic noodling/playing with my son.
I have a Park practice amp for the guitar at home. It unsurprisingly sounds rubbish compared to my old Marshall VS100R that I also dug out this week. Having heard the difference even with the Marshall barely at tick over I'm now horrified at the idea of a rubbish sounding setup (and the Park needs to go too).
Is there anything out there in the vaguely compact sub 25W space that's not going to sound insipid? I'll either be playing in the house or our log cabin garden building thing.
Is there anything out there in the vaguely compact sub 25W space that's not going to sound insipid? I'll either be playing in the house or our log cabin garden building thing.
A Fender Rumble, 15 or 25w would be a step up from the Park whilst being quite civilised for discreet home noodling.
A Fender Rumble, 15 or 25w would be a step up from the Park whilst being quite civilised for discreet home noodling.
was also going to suggest a rumble 25. i started on a 15 last year and it was plenty loud enough for the house, so a 25 would be perfectly capable.
i finally settled on a 100 at double the price and its barely off minimum volume. you never know tho, i might need it for gigging when i become famous 😀
Thanks both
i finally settled on a 100 at double the price and its barely off minimum volume. you never know tho, i might need it for gigging when i become famous 😀
This is how as an 18 year old I ended up with the way over the top Marshall (guitar) and Laney (bass). I was never good enough to justify the size of either, especially the Marshall even when we played in a band. No gigs were played, we were not good enough and I suspect property developers could have hired us to clear a neighborhood of residents at a hefty discount 😂.
Asking for my son.
Squier Classic Vibes 60s Precision bass - decent choice for a 15 year old?
He tried it back to back with everything for about the same money at Gear4Music, including a Fender standard P bass (which he didn’t think was as good and cost another £100)
He plays in front of folk occasionally, mainly metal (Gojira, Metallica), though he started slapping out Higher Ground (RHCP style) the other day.
Also playing guitar reasonably.
Thoughts? Advice?
id say the right bass for him is the one that he prefers to pick up and play. its a positive that he knows his own mind and what he wants at 15 rather than just go for the fender name.
squier are decent basses, i say go for it.
I have a Squier Classic Vibe 70’s p bass and it plays amazing once you change the cheap strings it comes with. I much prefer the way it plays to the Fender Vintera 2 I had before it. The vintage style neck was too fat for me. Body and neck are as well finished as the Mexican fender was, but it didn’t sound as good and you can tell the bridge and tuners are cheaper and the pots were a bit scratchy when turned. I replaced the pick ups and electronics with Monty’s Guitars 60’s pick ups and control circuit. Even with this I still had money left over after selling the Fender.
TBH, if he’s playing metal, I doubt the change in pick ups would be noticed.
I also started on a Rumble 15, and it was more than enough volume wise for home use. Traded up after a year to a 40. The 10” speaker gives more oomph and feel to the lower notes, even at the same volume. Have also tried Ampeg Rocket amps when demoing basses. They were good as well. Again, go for the 10” version if you can afford the extra.
If on a budget, Rumble 15 and 25’s are readily available second hand in good condition.
Thanks.
He has a cheap Ibanez at the moment and he’s looking to upgrade.
He tried the Fender, a Gretsch single jet style, aEpiphone SG-style, a very heavy Yamaha, a Squier Jazz (two pick ups and his view was that neither sounded as good as the single split one on the P bass).
All through the same 25W Orange amp.
To be honest I was surprised I could tell but I preferred the sound of the Squier P to the rest too.
To be honest I was surprised I could tell but I preferred the sound of the Squier P to the rest too.
Different pick up types can be very noticeable, Jazz vs P especially. All depends what sound you are after. My jazz is more versatile and with the bridge pick up turned off sounds quite P like, until you play back to back with a split coil P where the difference is noticeable. Even my two P basses are very different. As well as the Squier, I have a Mark Hoppus Jag, that has Seymour Duncan Quarter Pounders. A lot louder and different tone from the vintage style pick ups.
I look at it as Fox vs Rockshox or Coil vs Air. Both of those feel and behave differently, but aren’t necessarily better. It just depends on what you’re after.
My daughter (25 this weekend) started playing this year. Having shown no real interest in music since some short lived violin experiments about 15 years ago! Having zero idea of what to get we went to the local music shop and was recommended the Fender Rumble (25) to go with the bass she picked. I've nothing to compare it against but it sounds great. She brought it home and has ben practicing so first time I've heard it outside the shop.
Interestingly she's not using any of the internet / app ways of learning. She's having 30 mins lessons every week and practicing between her shifts. Currently Iris by the Goo Goo Dolls seems to be the song of choice.
Anyway she's very much enjoying learning and appears to have inherited her mums musical ability. Which based on my brief, but entirely tin-eared - attempt to play guitar at her age is a relief for all.
Anyone know anything about the Blackstar Debut Bass 25?
My local guitar store seems to hold those in stock and wondering whether that might be a (smaller/more reliable) option than the old bulky Laney.
I'm a 90s/00s metal, grunge, rock, thrash kind of guy if that makes a difference and I do like a big/fat sound not something weedy. I know I won't play it if it sounds pants.
I guess what I should do is take my bass down there and try one.
Just came in to say what a difference decent strings can make to your bass/tone, etc. Finally got around to fitting a set of LaBella Deep Talkin' Flats to my Sire D5 fretless. Lovely to play but always felt the sound was a little thin and feeble. Just bloody wow! Kept reading good stuff about these strings but I might go so far as to say these have transformed that bass, so much more clarity and sustain.
Inspired to channel my inner Derek Forbes, the D5 sounded great playing along to classic Simple Minds tracks like Colours Fly And Catherine Wheel, Big Sleep, etc. Love it 😎
Absolutely. Only reason I have two p basses, is I’ve a modern sounding one with rounds and the vintage style with flats. I went La Bella as well, but their Olinto flats. The E string is just amazing. Love doing big slides on them.
I managed to get hold of a Fender P bass just before Christmas and love it. My Squire jazz bass was looking a bit forlorn, and not sounding too inspiring either. I realised i hadn't put new strings on it for over a year! So stuck a set of flatwounds on it, the difference is amazing.
all this talk of P basses is making me jealous. nearly bought one a few months ago but procrastinated and it sold elsewhere. yes im perfectly happy with my pink ashdown PJ so its not urgent, but if anyone sees a decent one for sale at a good price, in a good colour, let me know please 🙂
Im coming to the 'dark side' - Guitarist come Bassist 😀 My first Bass (Squier Mini P) arrives today in a few hours.
Want to be able to do my own bass lines. But in the meantime, i'll be practising The Cure stuff (Fascination Street and Lovesong in particular!!)
“all this talk of P basses is making me jealous”
Don’t be, I’m sure no-one can hear the difference between a PJ with the P soloed and a P, assuming the same strings and construction.
I’ve not really played P basses (other than for testing/demoing at work) since the borrowed beginner bass I started on in ‘96.
However, that Reverend Fellowship (set-neck korina P with rail poles) I got last autumn has become my stalwart jazz/funk/soul/hiphop/fusion jam night weapon - absolutely love it, such responsive tone, really talks and sits in or punches through the mix just as I want.
Only took me almost 30 years to come back to arguably the definitive bass guitar! It’s so defined by the split coil humbucker from ‘57 onwards and we all just take it for granted but it’s such a weird pickup if you stop to compare it to anything else.
Here’s mine in action, I’m the other bassist (from Monday night!) But you’re mostly hearing Octron:
Don’t be, I’m sure no-one can hear the difference between a PJ with the P soloed and a P, assuming the same strings and construction.
Probably true, but rightly or most likely wrongly, for me there’s just something unsexy about a PJ.
It’s absolutely nothing to do with sound or performance, they just don’t tickle my pickle. Totally shallow I know, but how an instrument makes you feel is a big part of the playing experience.
Don’t be, I’m sure no-one can hear the difference between a PJ with the P soloed and a P, assuming the same strings and construction.
Probably true, but rightly or most likely wrongly, for me there’s just something unsexy about a PJ.
It’s absolutely nothing to do with sound or performance, they just don’t tickle my pickle. Totally shallow I know, but how an instrument makes you feel is a big part of the playing experience.
mtb analogy...... i guess to me the precision bass is the singlespeed of the bass world. of course you could just put a geared bike into 32/16 and not change gear, but its just not the same as a dedicated, skinny steel singlespeed 😉
I completely agree - as someone whose main MTB is a steel singlespeed hardtail (the tubes aren’t that skinny because it’s very long and slack and they’re holding onto a big fork), and who keeps finding that, despite liking the idea of two (or more) pickups and having dabbled with more strings, I play best and write best on four string single pickup basses!
(Epiphone Jack Casady at home - so most writing and playing time; Musicman Stingray Special for my weird heavier music trio with lots of pedals and chords; Reverend Fellowship for jazz/funk/soul-ish jams).
P.S. 30:18 on the singlespeed because a 29x2.4 rear wheel (and 165mm cranks) is a lot harder to push than a little old 26” tyre with long cranks! 😉
@sadexpunk How about this?
https://www.basschat.co.uk/topic/517919-squier-40th-anniversary-precision-reduced-to-£330/
@sadexpunkHow about this?
looks the part doesnt it, probably not the one for me tho. its miles away, he doesnt want to post, and i dont think id buy without trying first unless it was from a shop that did free returns.
thanks tho, and please keep em coming if you see any 🙂
Finally took a photo of my new* bass! It’s a Reverend Fellowship which is their Meshell Ndegeocello signature bass. It’s basically a set-neck P bass using Reverend’s P-Blade pickup, stack knobs, korina body, 5 piece korina/walnut neck, rosewood fretboard. BIG sound, really full and rich and resonant.
That’s my Stingray Special next to it which I’ve had for 6 years. They’re both wearing 45-105 DR Bootzilla strings which are stainless steel coated roundwounds. It’s crazy how different the two sound unplugged and that really translates once plugged in.
* I’ve had it about six months which is very much new to me!
a mate suggested looking for a tokai hard puncher for a precision bass. never heard of them but went down the rabbithole, they seem well thought of, some preferring them to fender.
i dont see any for sale anywhere near me but its another one for me to keep an eye out for.
So, ive been playing Talk Talk and Cure stuff etc since getting my new Squier mini P bass (in lovely red).
Practicing muting etc. The only problem is i cant do bass fingerstyle, as i need my fingernails to do guitar fingerstyle 😀 problems, problems, problems. So pick playing only it would seem.
Unless anyone has any suggestions. Playing bass with long fingernails......
I find palm muting easier when playing with a pick than fingers. The whole “Real bass players don’t use a pick” thing is just a bunch of bollocks anyway. If you are looking for a softer sound, use a felt pick like uke players use. Also apparently what McCartney used to use with his Hoffner.
I don’t know how long your nails are but Geddy Lee and others use their nails as part of their fingerstyle attack. And it does feel like nowadays more bassists play both and that pick playing is less often (foolishly) vilified.
Tons of great bassists use a pick most/all the time - and they’re not all playing rock! Steve Swallow and Bobby Vega are worth checking out, two of the pick playing greats.
@sadexpunkAny good?
thanks for thinking about me mate, but sadly no on a couple of counts. price-wise its a good couple of hundred or so more than i can afford. secondly im not a fan of sunburst really, i prefer either pastel colours (pastel pink, green that sort of thing) or glittery gold/silver. i guess thats not set in stone as sometimes you just see something and think 'thats the one', but i usually scroll past sunburst 🙂
like i said tho, thanks for looking out for me.
heard charlatans 'one to another' on 6 music yesterday and thought thatd be a good groove to get under my belt. went searching for youtube covers/tabs and came across this....
with associated tab.....
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Hce4JPZni68-HlTA84q2BH12TR3NpTTE/view
so ive been having a bit of a practice, however ive noticed that some other tab sites list the notes as being one fret lower. so whereas the main groove that matey (and me) have been playing is F# with the little drop to E, songsterr has it listed as a constant F, so no 2 fret drop available there (as you cant go lower than E) and all the other chorus/bridge notes one fret lower too. UG doesnt seem to have bass tabs, but if i read the chords right then that suggests it matches songsterr and its all one fret lower.
if that is indeed correct, i'll probably leave it as i dont fancy altering my tuning just to get the lower D# drop. (i think)
anyone know what the 'proper' version is so im not practising the wrong thing?
cheers
the "proper" version will be whatever sounds in tune with listening to it!
The youtube video sounds correct as far as the actual pattern goes,
Lots of bands tune their guitars down half a step ( so on bass e flat, a flat , d flat g flat ). Jimi hendrix famously always did. All of the early green day stuff is
Bands sometimes do this in different performances of the same song. I'm never completely clear why, i know some people believe the guitars stay in tune better (&sound slightly heavier) and it may be to take some strain out of the singers voice if hes had a heavy night!
If you have a little electronic tuner gadget, its not that difficult to change the tuning quickly
the "proper" version will be whatever sounds in tune with listening to it!
of course, i should have just trusted my ears shouldnt i. played it through the speakers and its fairly clear to me that its the 'dropped' version thats correct.
If you have a little electronic tuner gadget, its not that difficult to change the tuning quickly
yeah just had a go and its not that difficult, dropped the E string down to Eb/F# and it sounds better. now i have to practice keeping the former notes correct on that string but dropping them down a fret on the A string but its all good fun.
cheers