[Closed] BANKSY - FOUND OUT

Old news.

Very old news.

I wonder what channel Al is watching? 😉

.....oh and old news as mentioned.

Hitler invades Poland

It's not quite a Woppit.

More's the pity. 🙂

Some sea-dwelling creatures crawl onto laynd....

BANKSY is the superrrrrb!!!

Not all of US is so LONDON centric

Easy ride for the haterz it seems!

I wasn't aware the whole Blek le Rat thing was news either. Didn't everyone know that? 🙂

Link to article?
Was this in Genesis or Exodus?

Guys...

You ready for this...

Princess Diana is dead! Yes I know, it shocked me as well. I wouldn't have believed it but it was on the front of the Express today...

Damn, you woke me up for that?
I believe it's written about in one or other of the Banksy books that I bought a couple of years ago. Typical of a tv program to do a big 'shock, horror' exposé on really old news.

Ha ha haterz in "try to make someone feel small" shocker.

Won't work with me, losers.

What's that Al mate? Marconi's invented the wireless? Amazing.

I'm not your mate

I'm not your buddy, guy!

Anyone riding bikes today?

Ha ha haterz in "try to make someone feel small" shocker.

[u]Won't work with me, losers[/u].

Haterz = Loserz

Who's Banksy?
Why he get capital letters?

He's a bloke who scrawls stuff on wall..

Well I quite like his work anyhoo's..

DS, I thought better of you, I really did.

Artist imitates other artist shocker. In other news: man kicked to death by one-legged chicken.

the more people like something the less artistic merit it has, this is a medical fact.

I didn't think Robbo came across particularly well in the programme. Gave it up for the sake of his family...but quite happy to start up again, risk going inside etc. for petty retaliation and to try and make money off Banksy's back. It looked to me like his 25yr piece was pretty much gone before Banksy went over it. And his work on the trains was shocking!

I was also suprised by the ending...I wonder who gave him a good kicking. Shouldn't be too hard for the police to track him down as there can't be too many people in coma's at that given point in time matching his profile.

Poster imitates other poster. In other news.........

He's clearly no saint and the program appeared heavily biased in his favour, but "Make money off Banksy's back"?

Oh teh ironing!

He'd have never come 'out of retirement' and started displaying in exhibitions/getting commissions etc. if it wasn't for Banksy ... is the way the programme/Robbo documented it.

Most people likely to now buy his work probably had no idea who he was before either.

Human imitates other human imitating other human shocker. In other news...

My point was Banksy used someone else's ideas.

Banksy was very highly thought of within the burgeoning british graf scene of the 80s.. this is back before the days of [url= http://threenine-eu.blogspot.com/2009/11/drawing-line-operation-anderson.html ]Operation Anderson[/url] ( a police sting in '89 ) when the best you could hope for for your troubles was the respect of your peers and a night in the cells..

(or in the case of some of the older lads in our crew, outlaw status, £20 000 fines, prison sentences and the destruction of years and years worth of photographs and artwork cataloguing the birth of the European street art movement)
Banksy was loved even then for his wit, his passion, his politics and his hard work in pushing the scene forward in a drive to bring this much maligned artform out of the shadows and to the attention of the art establishment..
To be honest, I'd never heard of Blek le rat until the late '90s and millions wouldn't have without Banksy's work..

babber 'a'n't done too bad 'as 'ee..?

EDIT: in reply to al's persitent phillistinism, hip hop was always about cutting and pasting in it's early days, using the best of what was available to get the job done.. and isn't imitation the sincerest form of flattery..?

All those bastard painters that copied those that had gone before... painting the same subjects and using the same materials.. the charlatans!! how very dare they..!?

My point was Banksy used someone else's ideas.

Ah right, yes. There seems to be no denying that.

I quite liked Mr Blek...thought he came across pretty well and wasn't what I was expecting.

All human life takes ques from other humans, call it copying, plagarism(spelling??) call it inspiration.. call it original.
can't deny that the movement isn't flurishing because of him.

Blek has disagreed with those who claim Banksy has copied his work: "People say he copies me, but I don’t think so. I’m the old man, he’s the new kid, and if I’m an inspiration to an artist that good, I love it. I feel what he is doing in London is similar to the rock movement in the Sixties."

Seems fair enough.

I watched Graffiti Wars last night and it really did Banksy no favours whatsoever. An idiot can see that he didn't take ideas from Blek, he downright copied his work. The councils approach to graffiti/street art was also amusing......at one point admitting that a Banksy adds to the value of an area.

In some ways I admire Banksy, idiots are buying up his art an overinflated prices (my brother in law knows a guy who makes a living off buying and selling Banksy's, real or fake because people are idiots and willing to shell out masses of cash for, as Banksy has said, crap) And I would be surprised if it really is Banksy who keeps overpainting Robbo's work, more likely his legion of fans.

I was genuinely saddened at the end, Robbo came out of retirement to stand up for what he believed in, started to get the recognition he deserved then ended up in a coma because of some mindless thugs. Regardless of the tit for tat in the programme, the guy has two kids.

edit: Oh, and Old News? so what if some of us didn't know the story. Careful, you're starting to sound like hipsters

Even i was doing primitive stencil graffiti before 1981 influenced(copying!) stuff coming out of the punk/ new wave movment.The political/situationist/avant garde/surrealist influence was even older, predating the French student revolutionary rhetoric graffiti from the sixties.
Blek le Rat hardly invented it.
"Be realistic,demand the impossible"

yunki - Member
EDIT: in reply to al's persitent phillistinism, hip hop was always about cutting and pasting in it's early days, using the best of what was available to get the job done.. and isn't imitation the sincerest form of flattery..?

What I am saying makes me a philistine? I thought you'd just consider it a different opinion, you being so chilled, grown up 'n' all 🙄

I see your point but it seems to me that's not what Banksy did - he ripped off someone elses ideas - and yes I know it goes on in the art world, but that level of plagarism is not somehting I can respect.

Fair play to him if he did get the scene noticed. Fair play to him if he's earning a lot of money. I still think he's massively overated and his stuff is appropriate for the back page of Viz (like many others such as the Chapman brothers).

But ignore me, I'm a philistine.

nick1962 - I don't think it was the stencils that people were talking about, more the style of what he chose to do with it. Even Banksy says that every time he has an original idea he finds out that Blek has already done it; probably 20 years before.

But ignore me

That's the best bit of advice you've given in ages. 🙂

Just like Turner and Constable...

I prefer Banky's work over Blek's in general.

atalasz

Cheers,yes I know-this sort of thing

and this

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=situationist+graffiti&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1024&bih=629

and the "manifesto"
http://www.bopsecrets.org/SI/9.artquestions.htm

deadlydarcy - Member

But ignore me

That's the best bit of advice you've given in ages.

Odd that folk need to be told, you;'d think they could work it out themselves - even TJ did that!

Odd that folk need to be told, you;'d think they could work it out themselves - even TJ did that!

What I am saying makes me a philistine? I thought you'd just consider it a different opinion, you being so chilled, grown up 'n' all

from the urban dictionary -

philistine: Hannah Montana

Even "we didn't start the fire"? 🙁

Ace track.