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They were probably online all last night slagging the cops off for "2 tier policing"... Today, they want to be best buddies. 😀
Lovely.
Just up the road from me.
https://twitter.com/abby__hook/status/1821263551417159924
No fasc turned up to this asylum solicitors office (I think)... Just anti fasc demo. 😀
I think those convictions that are all over SM and the TV are having an effect.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/brave-walthamstow-protester-blasts-silly-33417774
Blimey, look at the size of the anti fascist crowd in Walthamstow this evening, the police estimated 5 thousand, and apparently as yet not a single far-right protester.
I read recently that the 2011 London riots came to end by the police deploying overwhelming numbers. It seems that the 2024 far-right riots might be defeated by overwhelming numbers of anti fascists.
An important important lesson to be learnt no doubt
Edit: Looking at that Daily Mirror clip again that anti fascist crowd in Walthamstow looks much bigger than 5k, it's absolutely massive.
Was at the counter protest in Newcastle tonight was great to see so many out standing together against all the hate. We might not have won but this is how we win!
Slightly off-topic, but good to see Robert (arsehole) Jenkrick getting put down by one of his own: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clynl828yp0o
Article said:
"In a social media post, Baroness Warsi said: "Every day before we start parliamentary business in the Commons and Lords we say a prayer and praise God - we say our parliamentary version of Allahu Akbars at the heart of democracy - a process Robert Jenrick is a part of.
"This language from Jenrick is more of his usual nasty divisive rhetoric - he is such a tool."
I love the segue from good diplomatic language to telling-it-like-it-is.
Edited to allow for formatting incompetence
MCJnr has met Baroness Warsi and she is very no nonsense!
A real shame she has stayed a Tory, I think she's doing it just to spite them.
I just discovered there was an anti immigration protest planned in Cheadle tonight. Cheadle FFS? Anyway, no-one turned up. Well no-one apart from the counter demonstrators.
It comes across as treating one group of people differently to how they would treat another
Walthamstow this evening provided the explanation for that two tier policing which apparently concerns you tenburner
Thousands of antifascist protesters on the streets of Walthamstow......no riot at all.
Had there been a couple of hundred drunken EDL thugs on those same streets and a riot would have been all but certain. There would have been no other reason for them going there.
Maybe you can't see that but the old bill certainly can.
Yeah, it’s absolutely inexplicable this supposed two-tier policing, isn’t it?
https://Twitter.com/btonhovepolice/status/1821303613089566751?s=46&t=1lK7Dw1b6RqGJyvufO-trQ
Tonight has gone some way to rebuilding my faith in humanity, good work counter demonstators and all those from on here who went out there to show the fashy pricks just how unwelcome they are.
Extra points for making Elon sad.
“This language from Jenrick is more of his usual nasty divisive rhetoric – he is such a tool.”
Love Baroness Warsi - no idea why she's Tory-aligned but like Rory Stewart she kind of reminds you that traditionally they're nowhere near as corrupt, dishonest or inept as the current shower.
If I hear one more idiot bleating on about "uncontrolled immigration" I'm going to lose my shit. NOBODY IS ADVOCATING FOR UNCONTROLLED IMMIGRATION! Same with "stop the boats!" anyone think that we shouldn't be doing that as a priority? It's literally in the new government's manifesto.
What's happening are not "anti-immigration" protests or demonstrations..... these are racist/xenophobic riots. There is no more a connection to immigration as there is to the terrible Southport incident - it's just idiots allowing themselves to be manipulated by people with an agenda (often one purely based on enriching themselves).
Anyone throwing a rock/punch should be getting a knock on the door and a court appearance, and at least community service. Those doing the coordination/leading should be getting custodial sentences for sure. Those at the top should be getting prosecuted for inciting racial hatred - including a few MPs/their wives.
Farage's Trumpian "some people are saying" schtick needs to be put an end to - his intent is clear.
Love Baroness Warsi – no idea why she’s Tory-aligned but like Rory Stewart she kind of reminds you that traditionally they’re nowhere near as corrupt, dishonest or inept as the current shower.
One (or two in this case) swallow doesn't make a summer.
Find some more less awful tories and see if you can get the number into double figures.
NOBODY IS ADVOCATING FOR UNCONTROLLED IMMIGRATION!
Exactly - it is mostly controlled via Visa's and processing of people seeking asylum. There is an element of lack of control when visa's run out, people come on holiday and stay, students stay on after degree etc,. but I doubt they are even thinking about those cases when protesting.
Quick sanity check please:
The latest from my GB News colleague is that "apparently mobs of Muslims in parts of London are stopping cars and beating up/jostling* anyone who's white"
I know the counter protests have been peaceful, but are there any pockets of more aggressive behaviour? I can't see anything, even on <apologies> GB News website. I'd like to get all bases covered and facts sorted before challenging.
* I don't remember the exact wording, I tend to zone out during these lunchtime rants
Love Baroness Warsi – no idea why she’s Tory-aligned but like Rory Stewart she kind of reminds you that traditionally they’re nowhere near as corrupt, dishonest or inept as the current shower.
The economic policies (and many others) they both supported are as much responsible for the current situation as the culture war. The culture war isn't separate to everything else that the tories (or neoliberalism in general) have been doing. All Warsi and Stewart have done is put a better veneer over the policies of deprivation, division and inequality that have become mainstream.
The latest from my GB News colleague is that “apparently mobs of Muslims in parts of London are stopping cars and beating up/jostling* anyone who’s white”
The opposite is definitely true, there are confirmed cases of white rioters checking cars and attacking occupants of Asian descent. So while it isn't impossible that asian communities have retaliated by adopting the tactic used against them, I think it much more likely at the moment that the fascists are just spreading more lies as a cover for their own behaviour.
"The opposite is definitely true, there are confirmed cases of white rioters checking cars and attacking occupants of Asian descent. "
On car related attacks. The guy that went for some occupants of a car with a petrol hedge trimmer has been arrested.
The latest from my GB News colleague is that “apparently mobs of Muslims in parts of London are stopping cars and beating up/jostling* anyone who’s white”
It is more for them to prove it rather than you try and disprove something someone has made up. Ask your colleague exactly when they saw it so you can check it if you can be bothered. Your colleague sounds like a **** to me so I wouldn't waste the time personally as it won't change what a **** he is.
They're just scrabbling because thier boys took a massive L last night.
And yes, this isn't about migration, it's about bigotry and hate.
Hypothetically if the UK stopped all inwards migration tomorrow these people would still be mad because they'd still be seeing brown faces about.
This is why appeasing headbangers never works.
On R4 now a government minister is having to publicly assure the police that they have government backing.
Braverman, Patel, Jenrick etc. This is on you. I can't express ably in words the contempt I feel for you in getting us to this point. But I'll try.
Bastards.
I know the counter protests have been peaceful, but are there any pockets of more aggressive behaviour?
With all the tensions and genuine fears that Lennon/Farage supporters have been causing all week it would be amazing if there wasn't.
Similar to Walthamstow Croydon was prepared for counter protests against the far-right but unlike Walthamstow there was never any credible evidence that it might happen - Croydon was never on the list of far-right targets.
However a bunch of, by all accounts, mostly Asian youth did take to the streets and there were 8 arrests for throwing bottles at the police etc. Apparently there were no more than about 50 involved and their ages were typically 15-16 years old.
Because there wasn't a "general mobilisation" in Croydon there was a lack of older more sensible people to keep them in check. Croydon has a problem with anti social youth behaviour anyway
On R4 now a government minister is having to publicly assure the police that they have government backing.
Earlier on R4 a Chief Constable was saying that [paraphrasing] at least they have the support of the Home Office as that wasn't always the case previously.
It’s quite amusing seeing the furious back-peddling going on from people who’ve now realised they’ve called this one wrong and totally misjudged the public mood.
I expect we’re about to see a lot of “well that wasn’t exactly what I meant when I said….” Type statements from the usual suspects today
https://Twitter.com/michaeljswalker/status/1821299035988488702?s=46&t=1lK7Dw1b6RqGJyvufO-trQ
Last night’s was great to see and Newcastle was part of it, there’s another big call for Saturday too as that is a planned date for the ‘patriots’.
In related news. This is apparently all part of the plan, it’s be orchestrated so the government can bring in facial recognition cameras to every town and city as well as digital ID. Makes you think.
it’s about bigotry and hate.
At the top level it isn't even about that, it's about grifting to make money.
Mr Jenrick said the Arabic phrase - meaning God is great - had been “abused” by “extremists” to intimidate people.
Much like the England flag eh, Mr Jenrick?
That guy really is an oily weasel.
That guy really is an oily weasel.
And because of that he’s now overtaken Badanoch with the bookies as favourite for the Tory leadership.
Theres no doubt that they’re heading out to the wilder shores of the far right then
On the subject of oily weasels.
Just watched GB news there and they were discussing the headlines in the express, about how many people have come out to stand against far right racism.
Carol Malone had the audacity to say " It is good that WE are all coming together over this"
'WE' Carol. ??
The "bad actors" are playing both sides now, they are whipping up anti Muslim sentiment, and then using the rection to the violence they have whipped up to misdirect that opposition to blame the poor and benefits claimants. The situation now sums up their operating tactics perfectly, misdirect, divide and rule.
stop being such a dick.
Why wouldn't you agree with the police officer? Climbing on transport infrastructure isn't a good idea. It hasn't been designed to take a load of people on it?
Is there anyway to see the locations of the counter protests? The more peaceful demonstrators that we can get to join in the better.
stand up to racism website has a list of planned counter demo locations. Me and a few friends are planning to attend the one in Newcastle.
It hasn’t been designed to take a load of people on it?
Actually, it probably has. Street furniture specification will include design for misuse high up in the requirements. Basically you put your inner bored 16 year old mindset on and design with that in mind.
Probably best you dont call them brownies anymore
What happened - did you get locked out of the Daily Mail comments section again? You'll get far more 'likes' there - it'll make you feel all warm and loved.
Six saddos stood on a poorly kempt and litter strewn roundabout on what appears to be largely deserted roads.
The perfect metaphor for these riots.
Probably best you dont call them brownies anymore
2/10. Totally misses a point. Nice, slightly "you can't say that anymore" angle, but let down by poor punctuation. And no bold or block capitals.
Serious sense of humour failure alert
Bit of a sense of humour failure going on on this thread.