Wonder what the rioters are doing this morning?
Thanks to the wonders of camera phones and social media, shitting themselves every time a car stops outside their house or their doorbell rings.
eg:
https://twitter.com/AnonymousUK2022/status/1819826458724065786
Where the **** is that nicotine stained frog looking Copper Nano Tube this morning?
These are your people this is your fault. Surely you should be basking in the glory not hiding like a coward in a pond.
Fast forward to today, folk in local social media are going “they’ve cut benefits for pensioners, why can’t I have a free five star hotel like all the illegal immigrants get?” Seriously, I literally read this earlier today, people believe this shit. I think by this point they want to believe it.
You’ve seen it before in Brexit, people just want to believe fairy tales,the actual facts are irrelevant.
Simple single answers to everything.
A five star hotel minus its staff , is just a small room but the that’s not how it’s presented.
The best quote I’ve seen for a long time is.
Social media is an outrage machine. It is designed for emotional contagion and its aim is to keep our eyes trained on the feed.
He's come out and condemned it absolutely.
Oh no wait, that was the 2011 riots. Still I assume he'll say the same this time.
https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/100525250852302848
Social media is an outrage machine. It is designed for emotional contagion and its aim is to keep our eyes trained on the feed.
It's mad when you remember a geeky Harvard IT guy started a website to rate women in his class because his girlfriend dumped him and now we've got riots on our street thanks to that
Said it before, it’s like wetherspoons has shut down and the regulars are looking for something to do, looking at the state of them in that video
Why is it every single one of these far right ** caught on video looks exactly like the stereotype of a far right * I have in my head.
Because social media is feeding your outrage as much as it is theirs. It's the new automated propaganda machine, but far more effective than an A1 poster because the algorithm is getting realtime feedback to help you find what your want to be most outraged about. And the only war it cares about is the one to post as many interstitial adverts between clicks as possible.
Meanwhile on farrighttrackworld the feed is full of counter protestors who all have pink hair, dreadlocks and smoking a joint.
Social media is an outrage machine. It is designed for emotional contagion and its aim is to keep our eyes trained on the feed.
There’s also the decision by Elon Musk, under the guise of ‘defending freedom of speech’ (yeah, right), to reinstate the Twitter accounts of Tommy Robinson and his band of thugs and give them a platform
I also notice that the likes of Braverman and Jenrick who referred to the Palestine protests as ‘hate marches’ and tacitly aligned themselves with Farage and Co have been awfully quiet since it’s all properly kicked off
Somebody put it well about those two and other senior Tories… they’ve rowed out too far to the right and now they realise they can’t get back to the shore
People's lives are shit and getting shitter, but instead of looking for the reasons why they can't do the things they want, see a doctor or dentist, or afford to buy stuff, they have been offered a scapegoat and gratefully accepted it.
It's a tale as old as time.
What shocks me is how social media and the terrible state of political discourse has emboldened people to think that populist, far-right, racist tropes are just an acceptable conversation point everywhere, like the weather or the football. We are seeing the sharp end of normalised bigotry, and it feels like we're starting from a 1970s square one to deal with it.
These are your people this is your fault. Surely you should be basking in the glory not hiding like a coward in a pond.
Some people believe that he shouldn't be given the publicity which he clearly craves.
I disagree, I believe that this is a unique opportunity to nail the bigoted racist ****
If he could be held responsible in the eyes of the general public for the criminal damage and violence, including against police officers, in Britain's cities, then I reckon that it could likely be the beginning of the end of his political career.
Which is presumably why he appears to be keeping very quiet ATM.
In some positive news, fat incoherent swastika man has been arrested
The one who was complimented on his “awesome” and “pure British” tattoos, despite the fact that the most prominent one was Hindu, that one?
Easy mistake to make “boots”/”boats”
Same spelling in German. Makes you think.
Which is presumably why he appears to be keeping very quiet ATM.
Farage is waiting for the recriminations to reach a level where he can say 'the elites' are 'picking on him', at which point he will grift more money off his supporters.
I went in to Hull centre to help clean up this morning. Council had done a great job already and a group of us waited to clear up the leftovers (literally, from Greggs). Still alot of agitators around which was unsettling but great to meet many others wanting to counter the hate with brooms and bin bags.
I heard a funny coment the other day...
Getting face tatoos is a good way to ensure you'll never have a job that pays more than basic.
It’s mad when you remember a geeky Harvard IT guy started a website to rate women in his class
Get it right. A geeky Harvard IT guy got his mates to start a website and then took all the credit.
If he could be held responsible in the eyes of the general public for the criminal damage and violence, including against police officers, in Britain’s cities, then I reckon that it could likely be the beginning of the end of his political career.
Sadly, I fear that the operative word here is "if."
One of our local union reps had face tatoos, he was quite successful in his career and being a union rep couldn't be further from the right wing.
The great irony is that now so many of these 'True Brit' nationalist groups a actively funded from overseas.
Used to be Russia pre-2022 but deep-pocketed Right Wing Christian Nationalist groups in the States are now Ol' Yaxley Lennon's main sugar daddies.
We also can't ignore the role of Tiktok (and by extension the Chinese government) actively promoting the most inflammatory content to drive division, this was a major factor in the Gaza protests and I'm sure they're at it again now.
Getting face tatoos is a good way to ensure you’ll never have a job that pays more than basic.
Depends on the industry and if they can afford to discriminate. Whilst it's not common it's not unknown for people with facial tattoos to make good money. I suppose the difference is whether they're properly done or just inked on your mates couch after a crate of lager and a few lines.
Almost like the aesthetic is down to the what rather than the how.
One of our local union reps had face tatoos, he was quite successful in his career
I have a friend with a facial tattoo. It's a pretty little spiral next to her eye rather than a swastika. I believe it's her only tat, though I don't know her well enough to confirm with certainty.
^That’s the Master Race??
I just laughed loudly in a quiet cafe.
All the politicians and talking heads who were so quick to call out the Palestinian "hate" marches need to be quickly called out and condemned for not condemning these protests.
What shocks me is how social media and the terrible state of political discourse has emboldened people to think that populist, far-right, racist tropes are just an acceptable conversation point everywhere
This. I hear it more and more from people I really wouldn't expect to hear it from. I had to call out a mate on Monday after the Southport horror after he casually said 'there's too many coming in, something needs to be done'. I know for a fact he's not racist, but he'd swallowed whatever he'd read on facebook or twitter and felt confident enough to repeat it in public. He even tried to defend himself when I told him he was talking bollocks.
I don't really know what the solution is, but this is the inevitable result of anti-immigrant political messaging from Farage and rightwing tories, and in no small part the failure of left of centre and centrist politicians to make the case for immigration and explain how we benefit from it. If we fail to make the argument for something (like Darren above) then the vacuum is filled by extremists from on the other side and that's what the majority hears the most until it becomes normalised.
there’s too many coming in, something needs to be done
2016 has normalised all this, and the genie isn’t going back in the bottle anytime soon.
Farage is waiting for the recriminations to reach a level where he can say ‘the elites’ are ‘picking on him’, at which point he will grift more money off his supporters.
He is already on something new I believe, some sort of anti WHO thing.
2016 has normalised all this
Yeah. Racism and hatred of immigrants didn't exist before then did it?
I didn’t say it created this sentiment, I said it normalised it. Hearing “your mate” repeat such phrases, rather than someone you consider a “wrong ‘un” is now something many of us have had to get used to. If anything, 2016 was a big step backwards. Perhaps “re-normalised” would be a better way of putting it.
Farage is waiting for the recriminations to reach a level where he can say ‘the elites’ are ‘picking on him’, at which point he will grift more money off his supporters.
Who cares if his supporters want to give him money?
There is no way that the riots are going to be popular with the voting public, his responsibility for feeding the rhetoric which has led to them should be highlighted.
This an opportunity to hammer Farage
If anything, 2016 was a big step backwards.
If you ask me most of the damage has been done in just the last two years. The tories brazen anit-immigrant grandstanding on the Rwanda policy in particular have normalised anti-immigrant sentiment. Combine that with social decay due to austerity and post-covid cost of living increases and you have a powder keg just waiting to go off.
Money often seems to be the driving force of a lot of the vitriol I see and hear - from refugees getting free hotel rooms/cars/houses at UK taxpayer's expense, to not being able to get a dentist appointment, all because there's not enough money for people 'who belong here'.
If the same people waste their disposable income on grifters like Farage, then when it all goes wrong they'll be demanding his head on a platter. Money is their obsession, plainly not spending it on 'others'.
Not standing up and denouncing it by the Tories and Reform is taken as encouragement and support to the arseholes. This is deliberate by both Tories and Reform.
What shocks me is how social media and the terrible state of political discourse has emboldened people to think that populist, far-right, racist tropes are just an acceptable conversation point everywhere, like the weather or the football. We are seeing the sharp end of normalised bigotry, and it feels like we’re starting from a 1970s square one to deal with it.
Baroness Warsi (who I still struggle to see remaining a Tory) puts it well. She says that racism and islamaphobia in particular now passes ‘the dinner party test’, where people at polite middle-class gatherings now feel free to be openly racist
If you ask me most of the damage has been done in just the last two years. The tories brazen anit-immigrant grandstanding on the Rwanda policy in particular have normalised anti-immigrant sentiment.
Another element here is that, in the main, this has been at its most vitriolic when coming out of the mouths of second-generation immigrants - Patel, Braverman, Cleverly, Badanoch and Sunak, the former PM himself - rather than the usual Tommy Robinson types.
Its lent the blatant demonising of others an air of legitimacy in certain peoples eyes
Pull that ladder up behind yourself
So people are rioting because they think the perpetrator is an illegal immigrant? But he was born here? So he's neither illegal, or an immigrant?
Rrriiiight......
I see ANOTHER mental health client who slipped through the cracks and was lost to follow up or not followed up at all. I see reports of bags of meds taken from his home, largely untouched. Sad that people aren't rioting for reforms and increased budgets for mental health trusts across the country.
So people are rioting because they think the perpetrator is an illegal immigrant?
Don't think they're rioting about that one specific incident any more. It's now just a generic uprising of white supremacist anger. Essentially a bunch of insecure macho white men who see this as their opportunity to get some 'payback'. I reckon it'll all die down in the next couple of days when they see fellow rioters being given multi-year sentences for throwing bricks or fighting with cops.
Far right letting of steam in riot temperatures at the start of a Labour Govt.Kind of reverse 2011 riots. Police helicopter overhead dealing with them here.
Compared to the Gaza Hate Marches™, these riots are quite mild, understandable even.
If you ask me most of the damage has been done in just the last two years. The tories brazen anit-immigrant grandstanding on the Rwanda policy in particular have normalised anti-immigrant sentiment
Part of the problem is that they've done that alongside record immigration. The fact that it's been non-EU migration, largely enabled by brexit doesn't help when lots of very thick people voted for brexit in the belief it would reduce it.
Looks like the nobheads in Rotherham have taken it to the next level and are trying to burn people alive
https://Twitter.com/mrbrendancox/status/1820092148202483875?s=46&t=1lK7Dw1b6RqGJyvufO-trQ
Compared to the Gaza Hate Marches™, these riots are quite mild, understandable even.
I see what you did there, 😉
2016 has normalised all this, and the genie isn’t going back in the bottle anytime soon.
2016 saw a xenophobic (certainly) and racist (mostly) campaign win a vote. Of course it emboldened people to be more open about their prejudice. A day or two after the referendum the 'Polish Vermin go home' notices started appearing - I think in Boston, but I may be mistaken. The vote to Leave was the single biggest step change in 'acceptability' of xenophobic/racist views in decades in the UK.
The campaign for Brexit absolutely kicked this all off, it was sold to the knuckle heads as a way to get rid of foreigners, especially funny foreign looking ones, remember the Farage posters. Brexit made being openly racist OK again amongst certain demographics.
The Torys have absolutely doubled down on hate since Brexit but it was Brexit that started it.
My hope.
The next few days and weeks are going to be unpleasant but I think fast effective action will be taken against rioters, and I hope against the cheerleaders too. They have a legitimate right to protest no matter how odious their cause; this to be clear is not legitimate protest, it's illegal protest and pure theft and looting.
But it'll also galvanise the moderate Brits that outnumber the hard right. Including those that aren't particularly on SM and aren't so aware of the threat - well it's now in their high street and on their TV screens. As they've been singing as they barrier in front of mosques and refugee hotels "There are many many more of us than you"
