[Closed] Baby name.

why do people call a kid a name e.g. isabelle because we like the name izz? if you like the name izzi, call her izzi initially ffs!!

Because Isabelle is a beautiful name, whereas Izzy is what you name a pet. We now have a generation growing up with names more suitable for budgies than adult human beings.

As to the OP, please God no. It's just not fair.

 

My parents named my borther Ray, so it wouldn't be shortened. Still gets called Raymond. Even his work email address is raymond.b...@etc.com

rusty spanner read what i put and your response - you have the wrong end of the stick

why do people call a kid a name e.g. isabelle because we like the name izz? if you like the name izzi, call her izzi initially ffs!!

We called our daughter Annabelle, but we currently refer to her variously as "Belle", "Belly", "Tinkerbell", "SmellyBelly", "A'bell" and "PleaseJustStopCryingForFiveMinutesFirChrisSake".

None of these names will be suitable for her when she is a bit older though, except maybe Belle.

Isabelle is a nice name, but don't call your daughter that if your surname is "Necessaryonabicycle"

Gee, the point I was trying to make is that giving a child a diminutive first name, Sam, Molly etc saddles an adult permanently with a name more suitable for a child or a goldfish than an adult human.

As others have said, give them the choice - the full name (Samuel, Margaret etc) can always be shortened later, if it suits.

I wasn't having a go a you specifically, it's just my opinion, and I understand that you were making a subtly different point.

The trouble is, you may know the background behind the name, but....
..whenever my wife and her NCT chums go to a baby class, they ALL come back gossiping about the [b]2 kids[/b] called Oakley and what sort of parent names their kid that..etc etc...

I know it's shallow, but the world's a shallow place isn't it!

Round my way there's TWO kids called Levi - all I can think about is the Jeans, all anyone can think about is the jeans - they [u]may[/u] not be named after the jeans, but that's what springs to mind!

One day the register at school will be like the stock list at MadHouse...

DrP

giving a child a diminutive first name... saddles an adult permanently with a name more suitable for a child or a goldfish than an adult human

Mastilles, which ones were you specifically thinking of?

Personally I think it's just puerile when the original is still available - Stacey instead of Anastasia, Alfie instead of Alfred - no contest, surely?
Don't parents realise that kids grow up?

Just my opinion, of course, but it seems a bit unfair on the child.

How about 'Darkside'?
Bit classier than Oakley.

Round my way there's TWO kids called Levi

Er, Jewish name, innit.

As others have said, give them the choice - the full name (Samuel, Margaret etc) can always be shortened later, if it suits.

Agreed. Though my preference with some names would be to give the child issues from the outset, e.g. christened Henry but shortened to Harry from birth, of John and Jack, etc.

But I still favour Derek.

They are NOT jewish - recent BBQ antics put hush to any ideas of that!

DrP

How about 'Darkside' as a middle name?

We know a bloke that genuinely gave his boy "Danger" as a middle name 😀

(I wasn't allowed to 🙁 )

your girls have nice names.

If you call your son Oakley he'll wonder why you gave his sisters nice names and he got the short straw.

Don't do it, it's a shit idea, just because it's a name, the brand has ruined it.

Adolf is a name that has been is use for ages also, Adolf is also a bad idea.

My parents named my borther Ray, so it wouldn't be shortened

I had a friend whose dad was like that, he called their kids Jay, Kay and Roy. Jay kept on being called Jason or James, and Kay kept on being called Kaleigh. :/

And I had an ex whose middle name was Seaman, as was his brother's, his dad's and his grandfather's - family tradition, the great-grandfather had it as a first name. Not something you'd probably consider nowadays...

e.g. christened Henry but shortened to Harry from birth

Hmm, hardly a shortening though is it given they both have the same number of letters. 🙂

Why not go the whole hog and call him Bench? Or a bit more upmarket with Abercrombie or Fitch.

What about the Aussie special of Donk?

Personally I wouldn't go with Oakley, but then he's not my kid. Main thing as most people here are saying one way or another is think not just about today but also the future and what he may have to go through.

Mastilles, which ones were you specifically thinking of?

[url= http://www.thinkbabynames.com/search/0/diminutive ]This link[/url] gives plenty of examples though.

Reminds me of a family that lived near us. Surname was King. Kids were Lee, Jo and Wayne. I don't know whether the parents thought it was funny at the time or whether they just didn't think it through. We thought it was funny. 😆

Hmm, hardly a shortening though is it given they both have the same number of letters.

Sorry, [i]shortenend[/i] should have been italicised to note the irony (as with John/Jack).

🙂

Lisa is a diminutive of Elizabeth but recognised as a name in its own right

Lisa is a diminutive of Elizabeth but recognised as a name in its own right

🙂

As are

[i]Alison ... Norman French diminutive form of Alice ... [26][/i]
[i]Caroline ... A stately diminutive with royal connotations ... [84][/i]
[i]Cynthia ... Many of the diminutives are also variants of Lucinda ... [42][/i]
[i]Colin ... Diminutive form of the medieval name Col or Colle ... [6][/i]
I am sure I could go on but we will all get bored 😉

Ah, got you Mastilles/ebygomm, but most of those names are substantially different or Anglicised versions of the originals.

The popular diminutives I hear nowadays are infantilised versions of perfectly good existing names.

Mate called his son Max recently - surely Maximillian would have been so much cooler, just in case he ever has ideas of becoming a Bond type super-villian in later life?

At the end of the day, one person's brilliant name is someone else's crappy idiotic name and we all think the bestestest names ever are the ones we chose for our offspring.

In all honesty, I'm glad I live in a country where we're free to name our kids whatever we like, and some of the above names are very funny.

I'm sure they'll all be well loved, whatever they are called.

I'm just a bit of an old grump on this one and on the subject of the evolution of language generally. 🙂

As we have twins (I know, some of you might not know yet 😉 ) we got all sorts of amusing suggestions such as:
Marks & Spencer
Patty & Selma (The Simpsons)

and my favourite
Lambert & Butler

🙂

If we had been dead posh, we could have called them Moet & Chandon.

My parents named my brother Ray, so it wouldn't be shortened.

Your surname isn't "Ban" is it?

Move to Australia. The rugby players out there have some great names.

Sterling Mortlock is a personal fave.

But yes call the kid after a sunglasses label and all condemnation will fall on you. Except from proper toffs who will assume it's a family tradition to use surnames as first names and really has about 20 more letters in it.

Oh and finally - you do realise as soon as the poor beggar gets to school he will be christened "Okily Dokily" re Ned Flanders ?? Then when he gets old enough will change his name to "Odin" or "Banana Hammock" just to get some revenge.

My name is Kathryn - but I was called Katy when I was a child. My mum really liked the name Katy but felt that whilst it was a lovely little girl's name, it might not be so suitable for an older woman.

I'm glad she did this because I feel much more like a 'Kathryn' than a 'Katy'. It was a bit odd though that she didn't tell me my 'real name' until I was 11 or so... and I had to go around telling everybody that my name had changed overnight!

PS. Rowan is a nice name, for both girls and boys. though I think Stanford Fackrell would be an awesome name - if he could get away with it.. 8)

why do people call a kid a name e.g. isabelle because we like the name izz? if you like the name izzi, call her izzi initially ffs!!

Because then the kid knows when it's in big trouble.... Always good to have the option of the full name to signify impending doom

Sterling Mortlock is a personal fave.

Mrs North's grandfather's first name was Mornington. Sadly his surname wasn't Crescent....

I wouldnt, but what do i know.

my first is due sunday, dont know the sex yet...but we have the names

Girl - Cerys

Boy - Evan

The advice from my mum when we were having our first, was to try shouting it upstairs - see how it 'rolled' off the tongue.

This was advice based on a mistake, because very early after naming me she realised that she 'struggled' with my first/surname and consequently I've always been called by my middle name...

Sound advice.

We deployed the "back door test". How does it sound shouting for them from the back door in my bestest weeg.

e.g. "Haoow! Sshaaan-tell! Yer tea's oot."

Down south we do the supermarket test.

"Oi! Eeefan! Git 'ere ya li'al bastard!" shouted down the aisle of Lidl.

Because then the kid knows when it's in big trouble.... Always good to have the option of the full name to signify impending doom

miaowing_kat I've know a fair few Katie's- all have been wonderfully-dirty 😀

there used to be a Veterinary Surgeon where I grew up called Peter Nutt. The sign outside his surgery had his and his wifes names on.

P.Nutt: Veterinary Surgeon
Hazel Nutt: Veterinary Assistant

In counter to the Katy / Kathryn, not every dimunition of a name results in the name becoming more youthful.

My given name is Jonathan, which makes me sound like a small boy. So everyone apart from my family know me as Jon (and I'm insistent on the spelling)

My family call me Jonathan when addressing me formally - eg: this is my son Jonathan (or when I'm in trouble) but most often call me Jonny. Jonny is a real small boy name but for some reason that's my favourite one in informal company. But it wouldn't sound right at work.

And then since I share a surname with another well known John ('star' of TV's Big Break and all round grumpy arsed snooker type) a number of people also call me JV

To the OP. Oakley's not a good first name.

Names should be at least two syllables to make calling easy, and pass the supermarket test;

You WILL lose your child and have to walk down the aisles shouting "Oakley". Shoppers will only look on with pity and not because you have lost your child. Choose again.

Choose something either classic or timeless.
Choose something with unambiguous spelling (think email...)

Mine are Thomas and Alexander - which can be shortened to Tom and Alex as they get older. My sister has a Wilfred and an Albert. I think Wilfred is a great name.

regards
Daren

And yes that name dates me to the '60's and my parents couldn't spell (think Karen with a D) 😕

Oakley's nickname will be:

Klay

or

Speks.

Call him Steve.

One of my sister's friends is called Lucky Pancake. Her sister is called Summer Blossom.

Name FAIL.

I love the name Summer.

It was more the Lucky Pancake that disturbed me, Summer was the one that got off lightly!

if he may be called Oak for various reasons 😉

[url= http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Oakley&a=*C.Oakley-_*GivenName-&a=*DPClash.CityE.Oakley-_**Oakley.California.UnitedStates-.dflt- ]Wolfram says this[/url]

I personally like old names and prefer something different.

As my name goes, I grew up with Blake 7 (so I wasn't a nice child) and Dave Lee (Travis) in the end, never did me any harm, you just learn to deal with it.

It is what you want it to be, you will always find someone to disagree and that is the way life is.

And for the record, our little one is called Montgomery, a dam fine upstanding name, it suits him, and I think it's bloomin' brilliant (so do the rest of my family and friends)
Why go with everyone else, make him different, and no one will forget him.