[Closed] At the current rate of deterioration in the global weather systems patterns!

Here's another correlation for you kaesae.

What a ridiculous graph Spin. Only 17 pirates in 2000 ? .........where the hell did they get that figure from? 😕

I assume they are referring to traditional 'Blackbeard' type pirates and not the more modern 'Somali' type whose affect on world climate has not been studied in depth.

Simply trace the course of our solar system through the milky way and then look for any correlations between proximity or distance from other astral bodies in particular the spiral arms and the weather patterns or climate change on this world for a set period.

Easy as lemon.

Actually Spin, the fact that Somalia has both the most pirates and the lowest carbon emissions in the world only adds to the evidence...

What about pirates in the South China Sea ? ... are you going to tell me that China also has some of the lowest carbon emissions in the world ? ffs

are you going to tell me that China also has some of the lowest carbon emissions in the world ? ffs

Whilst China's emissions are high they still have low emissions per head of capita. Which Could go some way to explaining this anomalous reading.

The Milky Way, yesterday.

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From our vantage point, it might be a while before we pass through any part of it...
From http://skysurvey.org/

No offence but the world would be a much better place without imperialist capitalism or the slave minions that support and make it's Tyranny possible.

Ooooh, get a load of you.

I'm holding up an invisible handbag by my chest in both hands by the way.

And I presume you are wearing a Bacofoil titfer at a jaunty angle.

Be fair the self employed bearing sales person[ capitalist] has at least finally stopped slagging off capitalism and added the part Imperialist to presumably exonerate himself from any blame...its some progress lets encourage it.

Actually Spin, the fact that Somalia has both the most pirates and the lowest carbon emissions in the world only adds to the evidence...

This made me laugh

So have you geniuses noticed that the floods are getting worse? don't worry if they come your way, just redirect them to this thread and you should be fine!

So have you geniuses noticed that the floods are getting worse?

Not really. What are you using as a measure for this?

TooTall - Member

So have you geniuses noticed that the floods are getting worse?

Not really. What are you using as a measure for this?

Water!

So have you geniuses noticed that the floods are getting worse?

that's Cthulhu stirring from his slumber, the great tenticly entity will soon rise from the seas drown the world and slurp all the humans and boats up like slightly soggy croutons.

in fact all of this can be explained by the great old ones coming back, as the recent increase in earthquakes can also be linked to the burrowers beneath.

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So have you geniuses noticed that the floods are getting worse?

I don't think anyone in this thread has denied that Climate Change is happening kaesae (which the recent UK floods may or may not be a symptom of).

Climate change, may or may not be causing floods.

Grahams you strike me as a reasonably intelligent person, however I do have to questions how much of an influence the TV and media has on your perspective on things, do you still propose that Al Qaeda are the good guys and Bashar Al-Assad is far worse and obviously the bad guy?

it dunt rain like it used to though i tell thee that for nowt.

is that you tazzy?

do you still propose that Al Qaeda are the good guys and Bashar Al-Assad is far worse and obviously the bad guy?

Eh????????????????

I don't think I ever proposed that!
Any "bad guys vs good guys" view of that conflict (or pretty much any conflict) is naive and overly simplistic.

FWIW I think there is strong evidence from independent sources that President Asshat is slaughtering innocent people to quell unrest, which certainly excludes him from the "good guy" category.

I'm pretty sure he's not responsible for climate change though!

Innocent people are being killed in the cross fire, however you stated on another thread that is Al Qaeda are fighting Assad then that makes them the good guys.

Tell you what let's start a new thread and we can gather some info, if your willing to have your perspective on the situation challenged that is?

you stated on another thread that is Al Qaeda are fighting Assad then that makes them the good guys.

Erm I'm very sure I didn't. 😕

Tell you what let's start a new thread and we can gather some info, if your willing to have your perspective on the situation challenged that is?

I don't think you have any idea what my perspective is to be honest.

But hey yeah, why not start another thread? I'm sure your views will be interesting.

I haven't read all this thread because...well, look at it.

However, one of my students is taking this subject seriously and is working his way through [url= https://ipcc.ch/publications_and_data/ar4/wg1/en/contents.html ]this document[/url]. It scares the shit out of me.

The New Scientist regards the question of whether climate change is happening, and the secondary question of whether it is anthropogenic as firmly answered, and NS tends to be quite slow to take firm stands on questions. I am not a scientist, but I try to keep up and the fact that the existing mean rise in global temperature coincides with an even greater and faster increase in extreme weather events than the most pessimistic models were predicting five years ago is one reason why I ride a bike, rather than drive. Not the only reason (cycling is fun), and cycling isn't the only way I have modified my behaviour, but a serious reason.

On the red herring about solar variations being behind global warming, I recommend [url= http://grist.org/climate-energy/its-the-sun-stupid/ ]this[/url]. As for that stuff about drifting through magnetised ether: 🙄

Tazzy, thanks for the Cthulhu pic, quite made me chuckle!
Although, now I come to think of it, I haven't seen my Cthulhu plushy around lately, and the odd noises around the house are starting to worry me a bit... 😯

So have you geniuses noticed that the floods are getting worse? don't worry if they come your way, just redirect them to this thread and you should be fine!

Yes, especially since they started large scale developments on flood plains

And yes, that is a cool Cthulhu piccy

I haven't seen my Cthulhu plushy around lately, and the odd noises around the house are starting to worry me a bit...

you squire are a mentalist.....I salute you!

GrahamS - Member
do you still propose that Al Qaeda are the good guys and Bashar Al-Assad is far worse and obviously the bad guy?
Eh????????????????

I don't think I ever proposed that!

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GrahamS - Member
Always good to question the official line, but I don't find any of that particularly credible.

Do a bit more googling and you'll find plenty of reports from "someone on the ground" reporting exactly the opposite, supporting the UK press coverage that the government troops are killing civilians.

It's a propaganda war and no mistake - but balancing up officially sanctioned state-media reports from a dictatorship versus reports from Reuters and Assoc Free Press and NGOs, plus what is available from people on the ground, [b][u]I have to say I think the "rebels" are probably the "good guys" here and President Asshat is the "bad guy".[/u][/b]

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GrahamS - Member

[i]And would the "rebels" you talk of be "insurgents" across the border, and "terrorists" across the next border?[/i]

[u][b]Of course. One man's "freedom fighter" and all that.[/b][/u]
Hence my use of quotes.

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http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/usa-united-state-of-america-special-forces-unconventional-warfare-manual/page/2

Yes loum, you see those funny little quote things around "bad guys" and "good guys" ?

Those are what are known as [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes ]Scare Quotes[/url] (as MrSalmon pointed out to you on that very same thread)

As wiki puts it: "[i]Scare quotes are quotation marks placed around a word or phrase to imply that it may not signify its apparent meaning or that it is not necessarily the way the quoting person would express its concept."[/i]

Hence the bit where I explicitly say "[i]hence my use of quotes[/i]", y'see? If it helps you can imagine me making rabbit ear gestures while I say "good guys" in a sardonic tone.

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Also note that on that thread I was talking about the rebels / Free Syrian Army, not Al Qaeda.

EDIT: MUST TYPE QUICKER DOH
I dont see any mention of Al qaeda in his posts but the collective term of "rebels". The "rebels" are not a united force and cannot be described collectively. I could support the "rebels" and not support Al Qadea or them all;if I am brutally honest I never cared much for C3P0 or the Ewoks
You also missed

chosing to differentiate them with the use of the terms Good guys and Bad guys suggests the propaganda is working.- kaesae
GrahamS reply
That was my intent.

The truth is always less black and white.

One side is an oppressive dictatorship that is happy to openly murder its own people to maintain control; the other side is a de-stabilising element that fights to overthrow that regime, but could well allow a new Jihadist faction to take control and cause greater conflict in the area.

Dictator v Freedom fighter/terrorists from various factions united only in their opposition of the regime etc. hardly support for Al Qaeda more opposition to the brutal dictator.
PS Nice Gif 😆

So have you geniuses noticed that the floods are getting worse? don't worry if they come your way, just redirect them to this thread and you should be fine!

I live in York which has had some flooding this week.

In fact I was unable to get out of our farm for 3 days this week.

But they aren't "getting worse"

In fact the floods York in 2000 were much worse.

And the floods in York in 1625 were much worse than in 2000.

So. How does that work out Mr Genius ?

Also note that on that thread I was talking about the rebels / Free Syrian Army, not Al Qaeda.

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GrahamS - Member
And would the "rebels" you talk of be "insurgents" across the border, and "terrorists" across the next border?

[b][u]Of course.[/u] [/b]One man's "freedom fighter" and all that.
Hence my use of quotes.

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Obvious troll is obvious - the entire thread is there to be read and you are past distortion and into lies.
What you say is BS
It is clear he is accepting that the term insurgent and freedom fighter is defined by whom you support - he noted he had read Chomsky as well on the thread on the page you link

Still dont see him using the words Al Quadea

nealglover, I would not assume that what we have seen so far are the worst we will see over the next couple of years, normally I would gleefully wind you up, but this is very serious.

I would advice that you review your safety procedures for flooding and also invest a small amount on the right equipment, would it be too big a deal to buy some life preservers or other relevant kit?

Also a good idea to have an alternative light source and cooking source, the power for my area got taken out on Wednesday, luckily I have just bought a portable cooker and some other stuff from ebay.

The weather is at this point unpredictable, take nothing for granted!

Thanks Junkyard.

I'm also 99.9999% sure that Al Qaeda, the Free Syrian Army and President Asshat are about as likely to be responsible for climate change as the heating up of the Earth's core by cosmic rays 😀

Regardless of whether they are "good" or "bad".

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nealglover, I would not assume that what we have seen so far are the worst we will see over the next couple of years, normally I would gleefully wind you up, but this is very serious.
I would advice that you review your safety procedures for flooding and also invest a small amount on the right equipment, would it be too big a deal to buy some life preservers or other relevant kit?
Also a good idea to have an alternative light source and cooking source, the power for my area got taken out on Wednesday, luckily I have just bought a portable cooker and some other stuff from ebay.
The weather is at this point unpredictable, take nothing for granted!

So first you tell me [supposedly factually] that the "Floods are getting worse"

And then I point out to you [Factually] that they aren't getting worse at all.
And in fact they were much worse almost 400 years ago.

Then you basically become a mystic fortune teller, and advise me to buy Life Preservers because you can see biblical floods coming somehow.

Sorry , but You really do seem to have lost the plot.

Also note that on that thread I was talking about the rebels / Free Syrian Army, not Al Qaeda.

A fair point and undoubtedly true.

So GrahamS, you think the rebels / Free Syrian Army who fight side by side, and work hand in hand, with Al Qaeda, are probably the "good guys" ?

That sounds very much like a previously made mistake.

History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce.

[url= http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jul/30/al-qaida-rebels-battle-syria ]Al-Qaida turns tide for rebels in battle for eastern Syria[/url]

So GrahamS, you think the rebels / Free Syrian Army who fight side by side, and work hand in hand, with Al Qaeda, are probably the "good guys" ?

If we're leaving those scare quotes in place, yes.

If you're looking for a clear proclamation on who is good and who is bad, then ask Santa.

Why are we even discussing this here? Are all the kaesae threads merging into some kind of Super String?

DAMN you I really really must type quicker

[b]One side is an oppressive dictatorship that is happy to openly murder its own people to maintain control; the other side is a de-stabilising element that fights to overthrow that regime, but could well allow a new Jihadist faction to take control and cause greater conflict in the area.[/b]

I have used bold to help you get what he really thinks rather than you pretending you dont get the sarcastic and derisory tone of good and bad guys"...i mean ernie if there are two things you excel in then it is surely those 😉

GrahamBS' mentor earlier:
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rather than you pretending

OK I'm out of here ...... I can't be arsed trying to discuss if we're going down the road of petty slagging. Have fun 🙂

GrahamBS

I like that loum. Very "clever".

😆

nealglover, you can take an ass to the waters of common sense, you can beat it with the stick of common sense! but unfortunately you cannot make it drink!

The weather is unpredictable and floods are happening all over the country, is it stupid to take simple measures that could greatly increase your chance or the chances of others to survive?

Do what ever you think you should and good luck!

nealglover, you can take an ass to the waters of common sense, you can beat it with the stick of common sense! but unfortunately you cannot make it drink!
The weather is unpredictable and floods are happening all over the country, [b]is it stupid to take simple measures that could greatly increase your chance or the chances of others to survive?[/b]

It would be fairly stupid yes.

These floods are no different to the floods that happen every year round here (often 3 or four times a year) for my entire life, and long long before it too.

As I said before (you chose to ignore it so ill say it again) the recent floods are nowhere near as bad as the floods in 2000 and the floods in 2000 were nowhere near as bad as the floods in 1625.

So in fact, the [b] Evidence [/b] shows that the floods are getting [b]Less Severe[/b] wouldn't you say ???

(I would like an answer to that question please)

During the last week, My house was cut off by flood water.

I got wet legs as I had to walk through the flooded road to get to the shop (and the pub)

But if you want to build an Arc with its own alternative power supply and stocks of food, you go ahead.

You will need to park it after a couple of hundred yards and walk the rest of the way to the pub though, as it was only the bit of road near the Beck that flooded, at least you will have dry shoes though.

Kaesae seeing a new response to his thread
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Thanks piemonster, don't worry if any catastrophic event does happen, the Tories will mobilize all available resources and save themselves!

Hahahahahaha!

nealglover, I would not assume that what we have seen so far are the worst we will see over the next couple of years, normally I would gleefully wind you up, but this is very serious.

I would advice that you review your safety procedures for flooding and also invest a small amount on the right equipment, would it be too big a deal to buy some life preservers or other relevant kit?

I will post it again Kaesae as you seem to have missed it (again)

As I said before (you chose to ignore it so ill say it again) the recent floods are nowhere near as bad as the floods in 2000 and the floods in 2000 were nowhere near as bad as the floods in 1625.

So in fact, the Evidence shows that the floods are getting Less Severe wouldn't you say ???

(I would like an answer to that question please)

Thanks piemonster, don't worry if any catastrophic event does happen, the Tories will mobilize all available resources and save themselves!

Hahahahahaha!

nealglover, as a member if my race I feel a certain obligation to warn you of what I perceive to be a very real threat.

However the warning is all that I consider I am obliged to give you, since I am in a generous mood I will also say this.

At what point in the recent history of our race, let us say for the last 2,000 years as an approximate figure or time frame. Has the weather on this planet been as hostile, unpredictable or potentially lethal as it is now?

If as you say in 1625 there were floods far worse than the ones you have recently seen and again in 2000, then is it not reasonable to conclude that this kind of flooding is not only possible but also likely and should therefore be prepared for?

countzero, what about the volume of the water, does it play any part in your evaluation of the current situation?

As for not being affected by flooding or it's effects on our culture / country. Are you factoring in crop failures to your evaluation of the problem and what about power shortages or widespread disease, any number of factors associated with flooding really?

These are times of great change for our country, those of you that do not want to make any type of preparations for unexpected events are free to do so!

Since I plan on going camping and climbing and hiking and canoeing as well as lots of other survival activities if I can, I have no problem using the floods and other potential events as an extra excuse to buy myself some new stuff 😉

nealglover, as a member if my race I feel a certain obligation to warn you of what I perceive to be a very real threat.

Fine, but as you don't seem to know what you are talking about, I'll pass on the Life preservers thanks.

However the warning is all that I consider I am obliged to give you, since I am in a generous mood I will also say this.

No idea what that means.

At what point in the recent history of our race, let us say for the last 2,000 years as an approximate figure. Has the weather on this planet been as hostile, unpredictable or potentially lethal as it is now?

Well, in terms of flooding, as that's what we have been discussing.

Pretty much constantly, although in the past (as I have told you) it seems to have been much worse.

If as you say in 1625 there were floods far worse than the ones you have recently seen and again in 2000, then is it not reasonable to conclude that this kind of flooding is not only possible but also likely and should therefore be prepared for?

Well, the floods come and go.

People get wet feet.
Kids ride their bikes through the flood water and have a laugh.
People who bought houses in areas that are known to flood regularly get wet carpets (not much of a shock)

But where is the need for Alternative lighting/heat sources and life preservers.

I live in one of the most regularly flooded areas, of one of the most regularly flooded cities in the UK.

And the worst that's happened in my lifetime is that I've had to walk through a bit of water to get to the shops, or been a bit delayed getting to work

Your living in a dream world I'm afraid.

A wet dream world?

Yes druidh a wet dream world!

At what point in the recent history of our race, let us say for the last 2,000 years as an approximate figure or time frame. Has the weather on this planet been as hostile, unpredictable or potentially lethal as it is now?

how is anyone going to know? we have more information now than could ever have been imgained before. Weather still occured in the past it is just that we (now) don't know what happened.

the written record for this small corner of the planet refers to extended period of worse weather than we have now causing famine and pestilence

At what point in the recent history of our race, let us say for the last 2,000 years as an approximate figure or time frame. Has the weather on this planet been as hostile, unpredictable or potentially lethal as it is now?

Great Famine

In the spring of 1315, unusually heavy rain began in much of Europe. Throughout the spring and summer, it continued to rain and the temperature remained cool. These conditions caused widespread crop failures. The straw and hay for the animals could not be cured and there was no fodder for the livestock. The price of food began to rise. Food prices in England doubled between spring and midsummer. Salt, the only way to cure and preserve meat, was difficult to obtain because it could not be evaporated in the wet weather; it went from 30 shillings to 40 shillings.[4]
In Lorraine, wheat prices increased by 320% and peasants could no longer afford bread. Stores of grain for long-term emergencies were limited to the lords and nobles. Because of the general increased population pressures, even lower-than-average harvests meant some people would go hungry; there was little margin for failure. People began to harvest wild edible roots, plants, grasses, nuts, and bark in the forests.[5]
There are a number of documented incidents that show the extent of the famine. Edward II, King of England, stopped at St Albans on 10 August 1315 and no bread could be found for him or his entourage; it was a rare occasion in which the King of England was unable to eat.[6] The French, under Louis X, tried to invade Flanders, but being in the low country of the Netherlands, the fields were soaked and the army became so bogged down they were forced to retreat, burning their provisions where they left them, unable to carry them out.[7]
In the spring of 1316, it continued to rain on a European population deprived of energy and reserves to sustain itself. All segments of society from nobles to peasants were affected, but especially the peasants who represented 95% of the population and who had no reserve food supplies.[8] To provide some measure of relief, draft animals were butchered, seed grain was consumed, children were abandoned to fend for themselves (see "Hansel and Gretel"), and some elderly people voluntarily refused food in order to provide nourishment needed for the younger generation to survive.[8] The chroniclers of the time wrote of many incidents of cannibalism.[8]
The height of the famine was reached in 1317 as the wet weather continued. Finally, in the summer the weather returned to its normal patterns. By now, however, people were so weakened by diseases such as pneumonia, bronchitis, and tuberculosis, and so much of the seed stock had been eaten, that it was not until 1325 that the food supply returned to relatively normal conditions and the population began to increase again. Historians debate the toll but it is estimated that 10–25% of the population of many cities and towns died.[3] While the Black Death (1338–1375) would kill more people, it often swept through an area in a matter of months whereas the Great Famine lingered for years, drawing out the suffering of the populace.[3]
[edit]Consequences

The famine is called the Great Famine not only because of the number of people who died, or the vast geographic area that was affected, or the length of time it lasted, but also because of the lasting consequences.
The first consequence was for the Church. In a society where the final recourse to all problems had been religion and where Roman Catholicism was the only tolerated faith, no amount of prayer seemed effective against the causes of the famine, which undermined the institutional authority of the Catholic Church.[3] This helped lay the foundations for later movements that were deemed heretical by the Church because they opposed the Papacy and blamed the failure of prayer upon corruption within the church.[3]
[edit]Cultural
Second was the increase in criminal activity.[3] Medieval Europe in the thirteenth century already experienced widespread social violence, and even acts then punishable by death such as rape and murder were demonstrably far more common (especially relative to the population) compared to modern times.[3] With the famine, even those who were not normally inclined to criminal activity would resort to any means to feed themselves or their family.[3] After the famine, Europe took on a tougher and more violent edge; it had become an even less amicable place than during the twelfth and thirteenth centuries.[3]
The effects of this could be seen across all segments of society, perhaps the most striking in the way warfare was conducted in the fourteenth century during the Hundred Years' War where chivalry was tossed aside, versus the twelfth and thirteenth centuries when nobles were more likely to die by accident in tournament games than on the field of battle.[3]
Third was the failure of the Medieval governments to deal with the crisis.[3] Just as God seemed unable or unwilling to answer prayers, the earthly powers were equally ineffective, eroding and undermining their power and authority.[3]
[edit]Population
Fourth, the Great Famine marked a clear end to an unprecedented period of population growth that had started around 1050;[3] although some believe this had been slowing down for a few decades already, there is no doubt the Great Famine was a clear end of high population growth.[3]
Finally, the Great Famine would have consequences for future events in the fourteenth century such as the Black Death when an already weakened population would be struck again.[3]

I also draw your attention to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer

The Year Without a Summer (also known as the Poverty Year, The Summer that Never Was, Year There Was No Summer and Eighteen Hundred and Froze to Death[1]) was the year 1816, in which severe summer climate abnormalities caused average global temperatures to decrease by 0.4–0.7 °C (0.7–1.3 °F),[2] resulting in major food shortages across the Northern Hemisphere.[3][4] It is believed that the anomaly was caused by a combination of a historic low in solar activity with a volcanic winter event, the latter caused by a succession of major volcanic eruptions capped by the 1815 eruption of Mount Tambora, in the Dutch East Indies (Indonesia), the largest known eruption in over 1,300 years.
Historian John D. Post has called this "the last great subsistence crisis in the Western world".[5]

If you feel that all of those facts are reasons not to make any preparations for the future, then that is your choice.

Will climate change make it less or more likely that similar events will occur in the future?

Well given that our countries food security is at a 39 year low. Some sort of weather event could make us vulnerable if it was Europe wide. Best get me poly tunnel and greenhouse in good order. May even sharpen up my spears.

All I have to say is that we are Doooooooooooooooooooooomed. Which is probably true but not today.

I don't know - which events are we talking about? what was the incidence of such events in the past? What were the causes of those events? To what extent will the climate change and in what way? How will those changes affect the causes of the events we are talking about? To what extent and how? And will those changes increase the incidence? And can that changed incidence be mitigated by any individual preparations?

ch ch chaaanges, the weather?

No questions will be answered with anything but a question. And when you answer a question, expect no response other than a question. And do not expect those responses(I mean questions) to be relevant to any question or answer.

All we know for certain is that you will be both WRONG and/or MORALLY BANKRUPT. Or both, probably both.....

This end result will be proved with nothing, and even if you provide evidence that this end result is anything other than correct. You will still be wrong. And this wrongness will be proved by a question not directly related to the former.

Piemonster, a sussinct somethingion of kaesae's various threads. Like a three year old asking a tricky question, and when answered says 'but why?', and says the same to every answer. That's kaesae; 'why?' why?' why?' why?' why?'
ad nauseum.

[quote=Keasae]Will climate change make it less or more likely that similar events will occur in the future?

I'm going to reserve my opinion on this, until I have heard yours.

So ?

(With evidence please, you know, Facts and Figures and stuff. Like grown ups use.)

Keasae » Will climate change make it less or more likely that similar events will occur in the future?

Here's a question for you, obviously I only answer questions with questions and never answer a question directly. I have actually planned to answer some questions, but for some reason my threads keep getting closed!

Are the Chinese and Russians making any kind of preparations?

You know, like building shelters and stock piling food reserves, I'm not too keen on idiots and if I'm honest, can't see why they seem to be the only commodity that is in plentiful supply these days.

Nasa have sent a warning message to all of their employees.

I would think that what they are saying is a good idea for any sensible person!

Perhaps I am wrong and just another fool, maybe we will see calm, the weather over the next 30 = 90 days should give us some indications of what is to come.

Nasa have sent a warning message to all of their employees

Yes. In America. Where they regularly get hurricanes, tornadoes and earthquakes.
If we start getting those in the UK I'll be sure to have a "family preparedness programme"

the weather over the next 30 = 90 days should give us some indications of what is to come.

i.e. winter?

We always could record the mean daytime temperature in Edinburgh over the next 90 days, extrapolate it for 30 years then apply that rate of change to the planet as a whole.

I have actually planned to answer some questions, but for some reason my threads keep getting closed!

Maybe you should try answering the ones that are already on this thread then.

Rather than asking some more 🙄

GrahamS - Member
Nasa have sent a warning message to all of their employees
Yes. In America. Where they regularly get hurricanes, tornadoes and earthquakes.
If we start getting those in the UK I'll be sure to have a "family preparedness programme"

Due to the unstable nature of our weather, the UK has the highest frequency of tornados, per unit area, of any country in the world:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tornado_climatology

Exactly! but up until now, these have been small tornadoes. what's the chances of a decent sized one?

kaesae: this is your best ever thread

Exactly! but up until now, these have been small tornadoes. what's the chances of a decent sized one?

No idea.

Go on, What are the chances ?

Exactly! but up until now, these have been small tornadoes. what's the chances of a decent sized one?

Go on, What are the chances ?

You're not getting this are you, you don't ask questions. You answer them, then are either proved wrong with no evidence or ignored.

Asking a question LOL, you silly sod when will you learn.

buzz-lightyear - Member
kaesae: this is your best ever thread

I know it's really made my week.

I'm just hoping he picks up on the global populations issues, and the dual threats of agricultural fossil fuel reliance and land quality degradation.

Well.

It looks like the UK is ready for what ever comes, so this thread was a waste of time!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/weather/9616431/Seafront-shops-awash-after-resorts-29m-flood-gates-left-open.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/uknews/9565094/Autumn-weather-torrential-rain-causes-flooding-in-parts-of-Britain.html?frame=2349888

Just ignore my warnings about being prepared and enjoy yourselves!

Hmm.. I don't know about the others, but the flood pictured in Newcastle, Newburn and Morpeth in that gallery happened [url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-19769553 ]at the end of September[/url] - a few weeks before your [i]"next 30 = 90 days"[/i] prophecy was delivered.

Some look like they might even be from [url= http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north-east-news/evening-chronicle-news/2012/06/28/newcastle-storm-how-the-floods-unfolded-72703-31284301/ ]the big storm in June[/url].

Seems the Telegraph is being a bit disingenuous lumping them all together like that.

(Welcome back by the way)