[Closed] Are you a hand-wringin', tofu-eatin' liberal nancy?

Elfin doesnt win because there's too many long words and not enough pictures in the Guardian for him.

There you go, it's back to the common room.

Maybe you're right elfin, maybe he is jealous of you.

Maybe it's because he can't [b]buy[/b] it. Even second hand trousers aren't helping
😉

Maybe you're right elfin, maybe he is jealous of you.

Well, I'm certainly a better dancer than him, so I can understand such jealousy. 😀

Maybe it's because he can't buy it.

Trouble is, that he's so out of touch and narrow-minded, that he doesn't even know what the 'it' he can't buy even is...

All very enjoyable, but Im off for a Nutroast with Tofu jus and mung bean stuffing.

One lucky winner has been selected by the Her Majesty's Customs and Revenue computer list of tax dodgers and been emailed.

Rich boys are always shit at dancing, easy win there.

Edit : gods, it's so easy to see stoner off, wasn't debating actually on the agenda at hogwarts?

Mass debating, surely?

Goes without saying elfin, show some class 🙂

Edit: although I reckon until he left school his understanding of TUC was different

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I'm familiar with tax evasion, know what benfit fraud is, have been known to read the Guardian headlines but what's tofu?

Its something you have at bonfire night. Sticks in your teeth I think.

I have heard you can knit with it too.

Its a bit like Soylent green, only made with vegetarians.

is it worth me giving a sensible answer, or am i still way too naive/optimistic about this forum?

You might be thinking of Quorn, you eejit.

Oh, and i'm off to VegFest this evening in Bristol. Stoner/Zulu-Eleven/GashFeart et al would shit their jockeys if they even had to walk past.

In answer to the original question- Yes

There's massive jumps in morality and legality between each of those, and the tired argument comparing Tax Avoidance with Fraud is so clearly spurious that Im surprised some people still cling to it.

DD, i was considering going there yesterday. it looked like there was gonna be some good stuff going on, but in the end i decided it was a bit far to travel just to try to nab some freebies!

Don't worry, I can use Google, Xherbivorex. I was just intrigued what something that comes up as a protein supliment had to do with liberalism. My wife's in now and whilst she's never eaten tofu either tells me her American colleage does which does seem to confirm the OP's liberal link.

youre just jealous I can shit when I want to, fibre-boy! 😉

DD, i was considering going there yesterday. it looked like there was gonna be some good stuff going on, but in the end i decided it was a bit far to travel just to try to nab some freebies!

If I'm honest dude, we're stuck in Brizzle without much to do this evening and the wife is pretty much veggie, with me almost, but not quite, there.

I'm not sure it would have been worth a long journey, but we'll get to see Aswad 😀

ah, well not so much a supplement as an 'alternative' source of dietary protein to the generally accepted traditional western ones, and the liberal link is a tired cliche/stereotype really (but i suppose probably quite valid in some sense).

aswad a poor mans JSL

Tax avoidance usually involves using a legal loophole [ that indeed HMRC may have not realised but they may later close] in order to maximise what you have and minimise what you pay in tax

rather caught up in a myth there JY.

Tax planning arrangements have to be pre-approved with HMRC, you cant just invent a dodge in a sandbox, deploy it and then plead it's all kosher because it isnt outlawed. Tax mitigation structures are usually there to either encourage certain behaviour (for example capital investment in business assets) or protect over taxation of other things (like the tax relief a company owner gets when they sell up their company to retire for example).

There will be abuse of the system, even Guardian's holding group is offshore to mitigate transaction tax when it was bought out, which is hardly going to lead to great advocacy, but there's usually more good done by fiscal relaxation than harm.

aswad a poor mans JSL

JSL, a dyslexic mans JLS.

I could of course just claim a typo what with it being me 😉

to be fair, most soya consumed in the world is not hippyapproved.

Most soya is grown in a mono culture desert, is genetically modified, takes a lot of fertiliser and isnt outstandingly good for you.

Its also like eating a tasteless mushy white emulsion 😉

Alpro do a supposedly OK one with bean tracability, sustainability [ no GM] and no deforestation ....like dolphin friendly tuna.
Your are not wrong though tastes of nothing and is soft and mushy - I tend to deep fry it to make it crunchy for stir frys but not the best thing in the world and not ahuge fan. My kids wont eat it all.I am always amazed at what they can get from the humble soya bean though.

aswad a poor mans JSL

You're not wrong 😀

Sometimes I'm really thankful I do my shopping in France.

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Sometimes i am glad I have morals That stuff is bad I know meat eaters who wont eat it. Force feeding an animal so you can have a tasty by product of over feeding is a touch OTT , but we all have our own moral compass.

JY +1

one day I shall hide my moral compass and partake of some Ortolan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ortolan_bunting#Gastronomy

The birds must be taken alive; once captured they are either blinded or kept in a lightless box for a month to gorge on millet, grapes, and figs, a technique apparently taken from the decadent cooks of Imperial Rome who called the birds beccafico, or "fig-pecker". When they've reached four times their normal size, they're drowned in a snifter of Armagnac.

Cooking l'ortolan is simplicity itself. Simply pop them in a high oven for six to eight minutes and serve. The secret is entirely in the eating. First you cover your head with a traditional embroidered cloth. Then place the entire four-ounce bird into your mouth. Only its head should dangle out from between your lips. Bite off the head and discard. L'ortolan should be served immediately; it is meant to be so hot that you must rest it on your tongue while inhaling rapidly through your mouth. This cools the bird, but its real purpose is to force you to allow its ambrosial fat to cascade freely down your throat.

When cool, begin to chew. It should take about 15 minutes to work your way through the breast and wings, the delicately crackling bones, and on to the inner organs. Devotees claim they can taste the bird's entire life as they chew in the darkness: the wheat of Morocco, the salt air of the Mediterranean, the lavender of Provence. The pea-sized lungs and heart, saturated with Armagnac from its drowning, are said to burst in a liqueur-scented flower on the diner's tongue. Enjoy with a good Bordeaux.

You probably already have. It wouldn't surprise me tbh.

seen the price of ortolan?

Funnily enough, it's not on my aspirational compass. How much?

1x Ortolan = 5l Osmo hard wax oil

****, if you're using multiples of Osmo Oil, then that really [i]is[/i] pricey 😯

Btw, herbivore, anything you wanted me to check out while I'm there?

Clarkson was filmed eating an Ortolan in the traditional manner. He looked suitably impressed.

I've often wondered since about the legendary status of this particular dish.

I have no idea. Im just yanking your tenon. 🙂

TBH the idea of crushing lil' bones in my mouth doesnt do it for me. I have enough trouble with a McGristle burger.

clarkson ate ortolan on tv once, when doing some trip through france.
i'm not squeamish or anything about meat eating, but that just seems to be a little bit unnecessary really, you know?
and that whole being able to taste the bird's entire life part; what a load of nonsense.

why blind them what is served by that?
TBH [ as you would expect] that sounds quite disgusting.
Is it just one of those things people do and rave about to show taste and class [bullingdon boys stylee] or is it actually nice?

"Are you a hand-wringin', tofu-eatin' liberal nancy?"

Yes, but it's better than being an culturally leaden,self interested, emotionally illiterate Tory boy buffoon.

Conservative and intellectual, unfortunately mutually exclude each other by definition.:)

no thanks dd, it's all good. i was just gonna go to catch up with old friends and maybe get some redwoods foods freebies if they had anything, but nowt i can't get from the health food shop.

why blind them what is served by that?

i think the idea is that the blinded bird will gorge itself. Hence the alternative of feeding it in a dark box as opposed to blinding it. See, they're all love and caring really 😉

redwoods foods freebies

I'll see what I can do... 😉

After 75kms on the MTB in the morning I found the energy to turn out on a local "altermobile" afternoon ride, a sort of critical mass but respecting the law. I was suitably scruffy, helmetless and on a tatty touring tandem in sandals. I got chatting to an equally hippy-looky guy on a recumbant and things went fine till he starting slagging off the centre right and Sarkozy and which point I smiled and said "ah, the man I voted for".

I find it quite frustrating that the left seem to think they have the monopoly of things ecological, enviromentally friendly, and alternative - whilst demanding economic growth and industrial jobs. A sustainable future is in the interest of all of us and it's the countires with centre right governments rather than lefties that have promoted and financed alternative energy investments.