That graph seems very simplistic
Do we know for a fact that none of Obama's other ancestors were Irish or part Irish?
I bet the bloke who emigrated live in and married within the Irish community, and his children probably did too.
Dave
I haven't a clue how to do a percentage but here's my heritage:
Paternal grandfather - Irish
Paternal grandmother - welsh
Maternal great grandfather - French
Maternal great grandmother - English
Which I'm certain makes me an Englishman but one that tans easily.
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I can't believe you really think that so must put this down as a troll
Sorry to dissapoint, but it's actual real life thought rather than preconceived wind-up.
Nationalism is used as a smoke screen by racist groups, take it away and the extremism is easier to identify and fight against.
Born - Scotland
Parents - Both Scottish
Grandparents - All Scottish
Great grandparents - All Scottish I think.
Think the Scottish line goes back a long way, possibly back to Norweigan decendancy back in the Viking times, or so I think someone told me from the Orkney side of the family (probably pulling my young leg but I did like that possibility!!).
So probably about as Irish as Pres Obama!
What is beyond a shadow of a doubt is that my heritage certainly makes me a better person than most! Can't get any better than a true Scotsman (this is a proven fact so no point in arguing 8) ) 😉
Im an eight Irish plus 10% for drinking guinness for over 20 years 🙂
no point in arguing
I think we're collectively well aware there's no point arguing with a scot, authentic or synthetic variety 😆
That graph seems very simplistic
Good job alfabus, that's the hidden message behind my thread - wtf is "Irishness"? But if it makes Barack happy to pursue a tenuous family connection who are we to complain, and it's an excuse to drink Guinness 🙂
There are ~3 billion base pairs, holding ~6 billion bits of information, in the human genome. That's roughly as many bits as there are people in existence. I imagine that most of us are genetically related to each other [amusing thought].
Mother's side - both Irish although family legend suggests that my great, great grandmother ran off with a Japanese schoolteacher.
Paternal Grandmother - both parents German
Paternal Grandfather - third generation German
Therefore I'm entirely British.
Two sets of my great grandparents were Irish, but one set were Fitzgeralds, so I'm claiming descent from the Normans who invaded Ireland in the 11th century and by descent the Vikings.
(Where's the horned helmet smiley?)
From Grandparents down, 75% Irish. Born in England.
If England play Ireland at anything I'm English though... middle name is Patrick for a bonus point.
1/16th
born in singapore by my natural mum sheila from 'up north', my natural dad Kenneth buggered off to merchant navy; my adoptive parents from croydon and sidcup, married a scottish girl......
so Englang for me
There are ~3 billion base pairs, holding ~6 billion bits of information, in the human genome. That's roughly as many bits as there are people in existence. I imagine that most of us are genetically related to each other [amusing thought]
That programme on telly about cells the other week discussed this. Apparently in our past we were nearly wiped out, by looking at our genome. We descended from the ape line with a common ancestor to the chimp about 6 million years ago but the chimp has a much greater diversity in its genome than we do. Our gene pool is much shallower, apparently.
Welsh by birth.
My parents are one Scottish and one in denial.
25% Irish for me also hubby is 25% Irish, not sure what that makes any children!
0% Irish.
I'm actually more concerned about my first child being born in Birmingham by the looks if things rather than their nationality 😀
75% Irish, 25% Scottish but all English upbringing.
I'm 99% Yorkshire and apparently a little Sicilian as my Mother has a very rare gene that is only found in people originating from Sicily.
However if I had an election to win I'm sure I could prove I'm irish and bump off the most wanted man in the world. Should boost my chances even if I wasnt currently very popular.
However if I had an election to win I'm sure I could prove I'm irish and bump off the most wanted man in the world.
Leaving the OBL bit for a second, Obama's not really going to struggle for Irish-American votes, given that they're largely Democrat voters anyway. [i]Most[/i] US presidents would include a visit to Ireland in an itinerary of a European tour, given that there's such a large proportion of the population that considers itself "Irish".
I'm about 1/8th Spanish, 1/8th Scottish, 3/8 Yorkshire & 3/8th Dorset
but I was born in an Arab country...
but raised darn sarf so English
100%
Isn't there supposed to be about ten million descendents from Ghenghis Khan?
Not bad for one bloke! 😆
On my fathers side we're as English as it gets, have a mention in the Domesday book - ancestor was hung for stealing sheep... STEALING i said, we're not in bloody Yorkshire!
On my Mums side one set of great Grandparents were Welsh who moved up to Manchester for work, the other were Scots borderers who moved down to Manchester for work, somebody else can do the maths on that one...
somebody else can do the maths on that one...
About zero I reckon...thankfully.
100% Scottish though lived in England longer and a northern [england] accent
0% Irish
I'm a mongrel mix of arab, viking and froggy 😀
1/2 German; 1/4 Scottish, 3/16 English, 1/16 Irish
but born in Canada and live in Wales.
Mrs SR is 1/2 Ukrainian and 1/2 English.
Our kids are a mess. 😉
1/2
100% Irish. Lived here all my life.
Lol @ Elf - "Old Mum was French, Old man was French.. He was a.."
Me? Some Irish blood, can't be arsed with the maths. Defnitly not a standard British outlook. We're so similar but crucially different.
100% English, sorry..
100% English, sorry..
No need to apologise. You have our sympathies though 
A couple of my great grandparents were Irish, the others were Welsh, Scottish and English, pretty typical British Isles mongrel like most people from the North West of England.
my dad is from Clare and my mum is of Devon decent.
It's not so trendy to be (a bit) Irish these days... it's all about the Scots
It's not so trendy to be Irish these days
Suits us just fine. It was getting boring 🙂
I'm mostly gipsy...
Bout 75% dad was full blown paddy, my name is john Patrick whelan, oh and I'm a pikey