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I think that type of device is a long way off.
Except, those things are already here. We were discussing them the other day. They're just a bit big.


 
Posted : 09/09/2014 8:47 pm
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Having seen the price on the apple store for the 6 plus did I miss something? I thought I heard 499 USD, which has translated in to 789 GBP for the 128GB, 699 GBP for the 64GB and 619 for the 16GB.

US prices were with a 2 year contract - UK are SIM free


 
Posted : 09/09/2014 8:48 pm
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They've done it again, the phone is history [u]watch[/u] this space!


 
Posted : 09/09/2014 8:48 pm
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Thusly,

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/lgetc-phone-watches-gimmick-or-great

I was eyeing up this at the time:

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/an-android-smartphone-inside-a-watch-with-a-beautiful-design-meet-inwatch-z

Damn thing is half an inch thick though. Top to bottom is 2.3", that's taller than my wrist is across.


 
Posted : 09/09/2014 8:52 pm
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Having seen the price on the apple store for the 6 plus did I miss something? I thought I heard 499 USD, which has translated in to 789 GBP for the 128GB, 699 GBP for the 64GB and 619 for the 16GB.
US prices were with a 2 year contract - UK are SIM

Ok I withdraw my like 🙂

Assume £300 ish is going to only be on £70 monthly contracts.
Quite like the watch as a plaything. No mention of IPX rating on it or the 6?


 
Posted : 09/09/2014 8:54 pm
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iWatch + handlebar mount + offline maps = too small to be of much use for navigation.

FTFY


 
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Having seen the price on the apple store for the 6 plus did I miss something? I thought I heard 499 USD, which has translated in to 789 GBP for the 128GB, 699 GBP for the 64GB and 619 for the 16GB.

I am surprised they are allowed to use the contract prices as headline prices. Still reckon 800 quid is pretty good given the use my 4 has had. And with the bigger display, better processor, etc I can see it taking on some of the things I'd be previously going to the iPad for. I'll be getting one.


 
Posted : 09/09/2014 9:00 pm
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iLike the iPhone 6 128gb so i'll ave iT and das iWotch soi'll ave iT too.. 8)

iNNiT


 
Posted : 09/09/2014 9:07 pm
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Don't be an iDonut, Bikeboy.


 
Posted : 09/09/2014 9:09 pm
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My android watch is great and no doubt the apple one will be just as good and is a lot better looking than the early android offerings (moto 360 and LG G watch R look nice though).


 
Posted : 09/09/2014 9:12 pm
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i iS only kiDdiN iNNiT..

But quite like the way they look, and iGuess they'll be just lovely to handle..

However i"Ve triEd looking at the Apple siTe and iT's all gawn bolliX iNNiT wiV fanbouys gate crashiNg the siTe.. So iGuess i'LL have to waiT won't i..

* iS miSsriBle 😐


 
Posted : 09/09/2014 9:19 pm
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Probably right about the iWatch not being a very good idea for a bike computer. OH WELL.

Right, I'm off to figure out a way of deleting that new U2 album from existence forever.


 
Posted : 09/09/2014 9:39 pm
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After looking at the gallery on the Apple site I reckon they'll sell ****in millions of those iWatches.

And aftermarket suppliers will be designing new blingy straps already.


 
Posted : 09/09/2014 9:40 pm
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After looking at the dimensions, I'm out! It's far to bloody big to put in a pocket at 138mm long. Second hand 5s here I come!

To be honest I'm gutted as I really wanted one 🙁


 
Posted : 09/09/2014 9:55 pm
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What about a bigger pocket?


 
Posted : 09/09/2014 10:06 pm
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😀

Not a bad shout but I quite like my current pockets, the things massive and the plus is ****ing gigantic!


 
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Posted : 09/09/2014 10:48 pm
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Mmmm. Cherry picking.


 
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Yes yes, I know. It's not the full story. Still amusing though.


 
Posted : 09/09/2014 11:02 pm
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After looking at the dimensions, I'm out! It's far to bloody big to put in a pocket at 138mm long.

I'm with you on that. One of the reasons (besides money) that I still use a 4S is because I like the size.
I like being able to reach the whole screen with my thumb, I like that I can barmount it on my bike without creating a spoiler, and I like being able to sit down with it in my pocket.


 
Posted : 09/09/2014 11:10 pm
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Same for me - the 6 is far too big for my pockets, i'm perfectly happy with my 64gb 5s i bought last December as my iPhone 4 had cracked screens back and front, iPhone 4 is relegated to digital/internet radio duties in the kitchen and i'm sure the 5s will last me another couple of years.

I'll be buying an iwatch when they come out though, i like it.


 
Posted : 09/09/2014 11:21 pm
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The watch is fugly. Also having to have a constant connection to the phone sounds like a battery killer for both devices.

New phone looks good but possibly a bit big for me.

For some reason I decided to read some of the comments on the news article about the launch on The Guardian - urghhh! Some people seem to be very insecure/obsessed about their technology buying choices.


 
Posted : 09/09/2014 11:38 pm
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After looking at the dimensions, I'm out! It's far to bloody big to put in a pocket at 138mm long. Second hand 5s here I come!

Stop wearing your sister's jeans! 😉
Going to be a 5.5", 128Gb iP6 early next year. Already upgraded my network contract, the phone's a separate deal on O2 now, so going to wait until the fuss dies down a bit.
Just had a new battery put in the 5, so it's good for a while longer.
That big screen's going to be great for maps, and 128Gb is GREAT for music!


 
Posted : 10/09/2014 12:50 am
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lol Cougar, I'd have thought they would at least go for the Nexus 5 as a benchmark. Though at least now they have invented the watch so they can go about chasing everyone with a watch for IP.
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Posted : 10/09/2014 2:28 am
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I would like an iPhone that doesn't emit blue light.


 
Posted : 10/09/2014 7:30 am
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Just seen the pricing, ouch.

Seems like a significant mark up on UK prices. I still quite fancy an iPhone 6 but the smaller version with the bigger memory will at least fit on some of my pockets, ha.

[b]Anybody know if Apple stores have dummy models so I can see how big they actually are, I like to pick it up and look at it in my hand first before buying??[/b]

[i]The iPhone 6 will be priced at £539, £619 and £699 respectively for the 16/64/128GB models. And no, that’s not a typo – there won’t be a 32GB model of the new iPhone 6.

The iPhone 6 Plus will set you back £619, £699 and up to £789 respectively for the 16/64/128GB models. Again, no 32GB option is available.

Both versions will be available for pre-order in gold, silver or space grey. A bevvy of operators will be selling the new devices, including Vodafone, EE and O2. Pre-orders of both iPhone models begin on Friday, September 12.

The UK pricing is a mark up on the iPhone US cost. Over in the US, the Plus model will set you back $299, $399 and up to $499 for 16/64/128GB versions respectively. The iPhone 6 will cost $199, $299 and $399 for the 16/64/128GB models respectively on two-year contracts in the US.[/i]


 
Posted : 10/09/2014 8:28 am
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Pricing is in line with the usual if not a touch cheaper?

My 32gb 5 was 600, a 64gb 6 is 620.
Anyone buying a 16gb is daft, too small.

Those quotes above compared subsidised US prices against sim free uk...


 
Posted : 10/09/2014 8:36 am
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Anyone buying a 16gb is daft, too small

A few years ago I would have agreed. With 4g and fibre broadband I keep nothing but apps on my phone.

Music I stream spotify
Video I use netflix or link to my network hard drive
Photos upload to drop box.

I have 8GB free on a 16gb phone

I'm running an xperia z2 currently but had every iPhone until the iPhone 5 which I hated and vowed never to go back. I'm really liking the look of the iPhone 6, the watch and the potential strava links. The question for me is whether they've sorted the battery. 2hrs on strava used a massive chunk of iPhone 5 battery, xperia z2 it uses basically nothing. I'm also a bit annoyed the camera is still pretty poor. Design is lovely though


 
Posted : 10/09/2014 8:48 am
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Can't decide if the 5S is too small, or the 6+ too big.

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Posted : 10/09/2014 8:51 am
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It's too big. HTH. One of the 5's killer features is its size; it's the one thing I'd change about my HTC One.

I'm really starting to dislike the "phablet" movement. It's all the disadvantages of a tablet with all the disadvantages of a phone in one convenient package. Convergence isn't always a good idea.

People are increasingly wanting large screens but small handsets. That's an impossible ideal, so anything attempting to do it is always going to be a compromise until we develop high quality screens that you can fold / roll / project / otherwise minimise when not in use.


 
Posted : 10/09/2014 8:57 am
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I was intending to get the 4.7 32gb phone but see they don't do one, bit strange. I've managed fine with 16gb on the 4s but I'll probably go for 64GB at £619. My iPad is 64gb and it's rarely full. hopefully I can get some education discount via my daughter. I calculate I'll be much better off than with a locked in contract and have a phone I can sell for £300-400 anytime I wish.

The watch looks interesting but I don't think I'll be an early adopter of that.

The Apple-pay could be huge for them, I could see myself using that a lot.

The live feed was pretty buggy, I assume it was just swamped.


 
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The live feed was pretty buggy, I assume it was just swamped.

If only they had known in advance it was going to be that popular....

*coughs*

Incidentally, if you go back to http://www.apple.com/live/ then the full presentation is now there.


 
Posted : 10/09/2014 9:07 am
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All I really care about is.. will the iPhone 6 (the small one) fit inside my poncy Rapha Essentials Case ? (it's like a wallet, but you know, more poncy) 😀

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@jamie, yes I am sad enough to usually watch these things more than once ! I was using the ATV and it was quite annoying the stop/start/rewind nonsense.

BikeBouy I will be cutting out a piece of cardboard to see if the new 6 will fit inside the inner phone pockets I have in my suits/work trousers. Based on informal work so far the answer seems to be yes 😳


 
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bikebouy, will be a tight squeeze, don't they just about accommodate a 5?


 
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I've managed fine with 16gb on the 4s but I'll probably go for 64GB at £619

+1. I'll probably be panned for this but quadruple the storage for an extra £80 seems reasonable. I'v had to do the rounds through my phone a few times deleting pics and videos (some of which was garbage) so this will let me fill the phone with more garbage now. The single HDR shot will be nice. I'm assuming though that Apple will have no plans to up their icloud storage limit any time soon to accommodate all these folk buying 64Gb devices...


 
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Anyone buying a 16gb is daft, too small.

No it's not.

Anyone not using the Fast data transfer for Streaming and cloud storage is daft 😉

I've got 100 or so apps on mine. (Including satnav with offline maps of the whole of Europe, and view ranger with tons of offline OS Maps)

Photos upload to photobucket automatically.
Music streamed (or downloaded in seconds from the cloud when needed)
Vides (the same as music)

Fast 4G and loads of wifi does away with the need for massive storage IMO

16GB phone, and it always has at least 6GB of free space.


 
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Anyone not using the Fast data transfer for Streaming and cloud storage is daft

Which is great until you arrive in the middle of no where, or Scotland, and you have no access to anything because there's no 3G never mind 4G.


 
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Fast 4G and loads of wifi

sadly 4G in Scotland is a rare thing. The office i'm sitting in at the moment has 2G coverage and no wifi (yet) #firstworldproblems

I agree in principle though, except offline usage will always need storage for music etc.


 
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Which is great until you arrive in the middle of no where, or Scotland,

... or you happen to be on Vodafone.


 
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BikeBouy I will be cutting out a piece of cardboard to see if the new 6 will fit inside the inner phone pockets I have in my suits/work trousers. Based on informal work so far the answer seems to be yes

Niioce, thanks for your scientific analysis, pleae continue with your important research and report back with all findings, fankUveryMuchly 😆

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bikebouy, will be a tight squeeze, don't they just about accommodate a 5?

Indeed it does, not a squeeze at all, in fact you could say it was designed around it.. Which I suspect it was.
I use my poncy case a lot, it's rather ace and I get all my gunk in there, don't really want to get anything else.
Anywhoo's I'm pretty sure Rapha had a word with the Designers from Apple a year or so ago with this very important situation in mind, dontchathink? 😆


 
Posted : 10/09/2014 9:57 am
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Think I'll get a 5S in a couple of months when hopefully people will be flogging them off a bit cheaper - the new phone is too big for me really.


 
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Which is great until you arrive in the middle of no where, or Scotland,

When I'm planning a trip to the middle of nowhere, or somewhere where I'll have to pay for data, I download what I'll need beforehand.

Recent 3 week trip to the alps, I downloaded around 80 albums worth of music and had room for a 1000 or so photos.

All deleted/uploaded when I got back.

I don't really get data blackspots where I live, but if I did need to think about that, I have plenty of space for a few dozen albums to keep me going if I needed to.


 
Posted : 10/09/2014 10:04 am
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Fast 4G and loads of wifi does away with the need for massive storage IMO

I have fast unlimited 4G, lots of wifi, and get free data in several countries I go to regularly.

20Gb used 8gb free on my 32Gb. And that's after a recent music cull and I don't have much on there.

Even spotify streaming it keeps a largish cache, if you record any video that eats space, I've a couple gigs of offline maps, half a gig keynote, same pages, same in goodreader etc... it all adds up.

Higher res screens on the new 6 and 6+, combined with the continued existence of lower res screens on the 5S,5C and the fact apps are bundled one-size-fits-all means some apps might have 3 sets of art assets in them, for the three different screen res. Or at least two, for the two different DPI between those 3 sizes.

So anything with heavy art or custom GUI stuff might start to double/triple in app size...and these are the apps that take the most space already.

Someone might come along saying "but vector graphics!" whilst it's true that many of the original art sources will be vector, they're often rendered down to precise pixel sizes for the app deployment to improve performance at the user end.


 
Posted : 10/09/2014 10:07 am
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16GB works fine for me too - I mostly stream music or listen to podcasts if I'm away from 3G/wifi. I have unlimited data and 3 data coverage/speed is pretty good in general IME.

People saying the camera is still poor - the camera in the 5S is great and any improvement on that will obviously be even better. 😕

Is it because the MP count hasn't gone up? Unless you're making really large prints or regularly doing extreme crops it's not really relevant. I guess it does give you more 'digital zoom'.


 
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