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Local uni making 35 staff academic staff redundant, also saying loss of grants will have an effect
The roads this week seem to be quieter of delivery lgv,s,and courier vans,
All the trade depots ive been in this week seem devoid of spending customers.
and various large foreign owned companies have stated theyre putting on hold any investment in uk plc.
Discuss your tales of woe or tales of trade.
That was a bit quick to have lost grants suddenly. no?
Which uni may I ask? I don't want to apply to somewhere like that for my msc.
Yes - investments delayed, projects/deals cancelled, hiring frozen or cancelled.
Thanks BSers
Smokescreen OP
TMH well if its all doom as we are lead to believe there will be tons of restructuring and relocation work, dislocation always creates opportunity. Private Equity pull backs I heard, no loss there and good luck with relocating to Europe I'd say. Banks firing not hiring before anyway. Lets see what the state of play is in 3 and 6 months.
There is no way Brexit has hit EU grants to Universities yet and if they did I an't see specific staff already being in place and not working on other things. Smells like a good time to pass off bad news with someone else to blame.
There is no way Brexit has hit EU grants to Universities yet and if they did I an't see specific staff already being in place and not working on other things. Smells like a good time to pass off bad news with someone else to blame.
+1
Good way to bury bad news at the moment.
I had a drunk scroat abuse me in Lidl car park in Pitsea on Monday, it wasn't really suffering though cos he did a runner and dropped his tinny when I turned round to talk to him..
I have got appointments coming up with two socially phobic eastern europeans who live in a city with relatively low BME population, and that voted 62% out. I am anticipating that the part of my job getting them out of the house and into society may get a little bit tougher. 🙁
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I work in construction as a consultant to clients. 1 major and 2 minor developers have pulled the plug on ALL their developments until such time as the markets look more stable and a clear route ahead is known. The major developer was spending hundreds and hundreds of millions
Nope, the world is still going round where I am, no drop in business what so ever, in fact, as expected the figures are rising day by day, month by month etc etc
Barrat Homes appear to have halted construction on several sites that we deliver blocks n bricks etc to..... Might be half Brexit half end of the month slow down.
and my uni posted with a status update that basically said...
business as usual for existing students UK and EU until the end of their course
business as usual for 2016/7 freshers UK and EU until the end of their course
business as usual for Erasmus (both ways)
business as usual for all staff of EU citizenship or UK staff posted overseas
business as usual for all work bidding for research funds and that international collaboration is top priority
one of the Russell Group unis.
My Brother works as a consultant for a Construction Company in Leeds. Have just won this week 2 large contracts in Spain for managing the build of two new large mixed housing and retail developments
Barrat Homes appear to have halted construction on several sites that we deliver blocks n bricks etc to..... Might be half Brexit half end of the month slow down.
^^yep^^. I live on a half built DWH development (Barrat's "posh" lot. It's not). The low loaders turned up yesterday to cart the plant away. Looks like we'll be living in an abandoned development for some time to come.
Business relatively normal in the bike trade so far... Too early to tell though.
Until the anticipated price rises on 2017 products hit everyone that is! Basically, if you were gonna buy a new bike but have been dithering, but it now! There will never be a cheaper time in sad to say...
I have heard of a postdoc having their eu-funded job offer withdrawn. Only 2nd hand though, not 100% sure of its veracity.
Jamba, the issue is not the EU withdrawing funds now - of course they have not and cannot do that yet. The issue is that a university offering a 3y job, doesn't now know that it will get the 3y funding, cos if we leave the EU in that time then the funding will stop (unless some other arrangement is put in place to cover the shortfall). It's shit for those losing jobs but I can understand employers being unwilling to take on the risk.
It's also been written about all over the place that UK-based scientists are getting effectively blacklisted from EU grant applications. The hit from that will be a year or so down the line, but is already getting baked-in day by day.
We got a very positive all staff email from our VC, but I'm still concerned, being working towards one EU grant for a couple of years and it was about to be signed any day.. Now I'm not sure. Should be coming out of a pot already committed to UK but the risk averse fund holders must be considering claw back implications.
I can well imagine uk institutions being black listed from consortia, why would you include the uk in a future bid until our role is determined. No point putting in efforts and then being told your consortium is ineligible.
I would expect the most successful UK scientists to be thinking twice about even applying for EU grants - who would want to embark on 5y of research, when the plug might get pulled half way through?
1bn a year is the figure I've seen, for what the UK gets in EU science money.
Project fear ladies and gentlemen
Well the commercial property market is still moving quite well, we have instructions coming in the same as before.
1bn divided by 350 million isn't very much.
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khani - Member
in Pitsea
my sympathies
No problem getting work at the moment (but everyone seems to want a piece of me for Drupal development at the moment anyway) but my decision to travel and live in Europe but still bill in GBP is hurting a bit!
Rachel
my sympathies
In fairness I only work there, (Pitsea, not Lidl) but yes, it's a shithole..
My mate got asked for a works visa when he went for an interview with a small firm in deepest darkest Slovenia.
The roads around Port Talbot & Redcar are very quiet now since the out vote.....Oh wait...
Business as usual at the moment, I'm feeling that some organisations are using brexit as an excuse to make unpleasant decisions - even construction and banking that have been hammered in markets in the last week are looking rash making big decisions 1 week after the vote given that bar the last day or two the polls showed leave was winning.
I can't help but think some of it is being pushed to prove how bad things will be before a retraction or compromise solution. Mark Carney's speech today for example was poorly timed to say the least, the 'markets' sensing a deal on the cards return to pre-vote levels and the £ starts to recover - bam the BOE announces more QE and reduced growth forecasts; I don't know sounds odd to me. Not sure we needed more news from BOE 7 days into a 3 month transition period.
I'm a committed Remain supporter.
Yes
We're heavily exposed to money going out in USD and EUR but getting money in, in GBP
I work for a Dutch multi-national construction outfit. Developers have cancelled £150 million worth of UK projects so far this week.
a dent in our plans for sure, no job losses yet, but we need to make the turn-over.
Nothing expected that quickly.
I'm expecting prices of 2017 bikes to go up and we won't be buying them until September/October. If fuel prices are affected, that will increase our costs, which we'll have to pass on too. OTOH, if the Pound falls against the Euro/Dollar then we may see more foreign visitors which could result in an increase in business.
Definitely expect to see some push-back in how our proposals are refereed, and correspondingly, funded. We do very well out of the EU funding, out-competing everyone in horizon2020 AFAIK. We've now told Europe to GTF, so I'd expect a commensurate 'no, u' response on anything going in in the short term.thecaptain - MemberIt's also been written about all over the place that UK-based scientists are getting effectively blacklisted from EU grant applications. The hit from that will be a year or so down the line, but is already getting baked-in day by day.
It doesn't even need to be anywhere near as blatant as that - science funding at the sharp end boils down to trying to rank and separate a lot of truly excellent people / ideas. The smallest weakness is enough to sink a proposal in such a competitive environment. Leaving the EU probably qualifies as a small weakness when asking for EU money, so we're likely in for a grim stretch of science funding from that direction. Mix in a cratered economy overall from this fiasco and UK science is in for a rough ride.
A couple of stories I noticed in the press over the last couple of days:
Siemens Wind - continuing with the plant up in the north East but any future investment halted. PITA for me as I was in early talks for some research which would have been with them and a UK Uni.
JLR - confirmed they will be going ahead with the plant in Slovakia. Good on JLR as we HAVE to show the World and EU that we will be continuing to invest outside of the UK. But I also suspect it can be used to their advantage in terms of export/import.
Agree 100% Garry.
We (oil and gas engineering consultants) had 2 projects cancel on Friday as everything crashed.
Meant my notice which was to be extended to the end of the year now runs out next week.
Civil servants got an email saying to hold tight and keep on serving basically.
Thoughts of me returning to marine energy or onshore development looking gloomy now though
(another uni)
Back to the OP, it's far too fast for us to have lost any funding, nothing moves that quick in this game, but it'll happen if we carry on down this route, and before we exit. It's not my field but I'd assume and hope we're planning for it, dialling back commitments etc.
Short term it makes no immediate difference to me except that we're spending all day every day dealing with current EU students who're afraid for their future, current EU and overseas applicants who want to know if they should cancel their application, overseas applicants and parents who're worried about the rise in hate crimes (not so much from people who're already here, they know Scotland, we're too busy fighting our arch enemies the Scots), overseas colleagues who already have to deal with the Home Office and are all screaming THERESA MAY FOR PM? GET TO ****. As are we. God knows what we can expect over the next few months from a Brexit-emboldened UNVI.
Longer term, who knows. Absolute best case scenario is a load of financial and relationship damage that we can probably afford but would really rather not. Doesn't directly risk my job mind. [i]Worst[/i] case scenarios... Well, I'm pretty confident we'll be one of the universities that makes it.
I have an office furniture business. 3 projects cancelled or put on hold this week ..... Value to me around £70k so very frustrating / annoying. Caused totally by the companies concerned fearing or not knowing what the coming months will bring so hanging onto cash. Exactly the same story as last recession ...... Recession starts here ?
I was looking at an academic job ad last night, and at the top it said the whole project was dependent on whether ERDF funding was available.
Nothing appears to have hit our European contracts yet in Identity Management.
From friends, I know one who has a lot of exchange rate dependent accountancy to do as their suppliers are abroad, if the pound stays low they would have to look at layoffs but nothing major yet.
The Civil Servant friends seem fairly happy as they'll have lots to try and cope with.
One hospital friend reported that their department has been notified they are now excluded from a major European funded project for research into cancer. The study was to last over 5 years and they couldn't risk the UK being involved and exit part way through.
A university research friend has been told they've lost funding for an EU project due to uncertainty, although he did say the project was pretty shonky to start with and was looking unlikely to happen anyway.
I suspect there's a few genuine and a few excuses.
hot_fiat >> ^^yep^^. I live on a half built DWH development (Barrat's "posh" lot. It's not). The low loaders turned up yesterday to cart the plant away. Looks like we'll be living in an abandoned development for some time to come.
We live in the same. It's definitely been quieter this past week...fewer contractors blocking us into our parking spaces for a start!
Nothing as yet (Research Institute part of a larger University), we have been assured that existing EU funding is safe, at least until we are formally out in 2 years
there will be innevitable effects, though
applying for grants is a lengthy process, I cant see any EU funding bodies awarding anything now until after the 2 years of uncertainty are up and then , who knows.
The biggest effect is the feeling of embarrassment I have around my European colleagues, many of whom have spent years working and paying taxes here, who now think half the country wants rid of them
we have been working to assure European collaborators that we will still want tow work with them, but, joint funded EU projects now look much less likely
most ERASMUS students are OK as that too will run for 2 years and they should be finished by then, would be really sad if they are the last we get though
Still at least we have made Britain Great again 🙄
We've been progressively more stuffed since the Tories got in in 2010, when they changed the funding formula for sixth form colleges. A £9 million budget in 2009 will be a £7 million in a year or so, despite increasing our student numbers and reducing staffing levels.
I know of three indie micro-studios that are closing and one that's relocating to Germany because their VC funding had Brexit clauses based on the result of a referendum - funding was withdrawn.
The biggest effect is the feeling of embarrassment I have around my European colleagues, many of whom have spent years working and paying taxes here, who now think half the country wants rid of them
Same here, it's a shock because we live in an immigrant friendly bubble (Warwick/Leam), and voted Remain. The games industry is filled with massively talented EU devs, not sure what will happen now with hiring.
I work for a large public sector organisation in Scotland. They seem better prepared than most. Rather than trying to figure out of they are Arthur or Martha, seem to have settled on MacArthur.
Work is always quiet at this time, it is both school holidays and recess.
The impact for me is that the first 10 minutes of every conversation start with explaining why we still have to implement the piece of EU legislation that is my specialism. So there will be a small increase in business for the local bespoke t-shirt printers.
Definitely expect to see some push-back in how our proposals are refereed, and correspondingly, funded. We do very well out of the EU funding, out-competing everyone in horizon2020 AFAIK. We've now told Europe to GTF, so I'd expect a commensurate 'no, u' response on anything going in in the short term.
It doesn't even need to be anywhere near as blatant as that - science funding at the sharp end boils down to trying to rank and separate a lot of truly excellent people / ideas. The smallest weakness is enough to sink a proposal in such a competitive environment. Leaving the EU probably qualifies as a small weakness when asking for EU money.
Aptly put. I've spent the past week re-writing all of my draft funding proposals for UK bodies only, but for may, it's like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole, which, as you said, makes for a flawed submission.
Just found out our team has lost two deals as a result of Brexit (it was explicitly cited as the reason). One with a big Bank that would've got us £8m. We've missed our targets for this quarter as a result.
Me - contractor to MOD so probably safe, I don't think Brexit will mean that we don't need an Army any more.
Wifey - retail, works in head office of a large premium department store / supermarket chain. She's hopefully OK but the company will be feeling the pinch in the near future.
Chemical Engineer here, laid off yesterday, along with all the other contractors at our place. Quarter of the staff guys made redundant today. No work at the company for the foreseeable. Drop in oil price finished off the bulk of the work; Brexit did the rest, killing the remaining profitable job (which was US funded).
I know a few guys out of work long term, and there is literally nothing going in the design side for chemicals, pharma or oil and gas.
Winter is Coming
It's all a cunning ploy, the Tories knew the third dip recession was coming, so timed the referendum precisely to make you think brexit was to blame. No-one actually voted out and it's all one big scam 😉
Recycled from elsewhere but I hear the entire British political satire industry has collapsed...
Definitely expect to see some push-back in how our proposals are refereed, and correspondingly, funded. We do very well out of the EU funding, out-competing everyone in horizon2020 AFAIK. We've now told Europe to GTF, so I'd expect a commensurate 'no, u' response on anything going in in the short term.
It doesn't even need to be anywhere near as blatant as that - science funding at the sharp end boils down to trying to rank and separate a lot of truly excellent people / ideas. [u]The smallest weakness is enough to sink a proposal in such a competitive environment.[/u] Leaving the EU probably qualifies as a small weakness when asking for EU money, so we're likely in for a grim stretch of science funding from that direction. Mix in a cratered economy overall from this fiasco and UK science is in for a rough ride.
Wholly agree with this - an absolute disaster for UK science, both in terms of attracting funds, but also attracting and retaining talent. Brexit has certainly confirmed to me that staying put downunder is the right thing for now. Winning science funding in the UK was difficult enough already without this!
Set up a company of consultants last year working with construction, manufacturing, waste and energy industries from sme to multinationals. Work is mental and we need 2 more in thr team at the moment. From speaking to customers they haven't seen an impact yet either. Anyone want to train as an industrial hygienist based in the midlands? And any hse experts out there fancy a job in the borders/scotland?
With regards to Science funding a friends Horizon 2020 proposal is looking dead in the water due to uncertainty over brexit, this on the back of him being made redundant last year due to government spending cuts to the HPA (now part of Public Health England). He's almost out of options that don't require him to leave the UK.
buying a significant amount of eu manufactured product for retail in uk for delivery in summer 2017. prices are quoted hard dockside in euros now payable 8 weeks in advance rather than on delivery as in the past and are quoting 10-12% more expensive than this years product.
Fine in our business, over 85,000 clients ATM & probably rising.
Fine in our business, over 85,000 clients ATM & probably rising.
Hopefully bliar and a few more war criminals will be enroling after wednesday when the Chilcot enquiry or coverup is realeased
Just had to restock some of the raw materials for my ebay shop from china, damn you brexit! My profit margin just fell from 400% to about 350%, bastards.
(Also nearly shat myself as my paypal is old and always displays the balance in dollars...)
No change as yet for me - small (mostly) software company - our management are very pro EU & we do some business in the EU - only one person I work with voted leave, the other dozen or so of us all voted remain
Sainsburys are closing down their Netto stores in august, joint owned stores with danish Netto.
There are still plenty of European Social Fund tenders appearing which are good until March 2018 and that date is due to changes in funding organisations (SFA to LEP). DWP have issued two notes about their funding basically saying they don't know anything about the impact of Brexit.