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[Closed] Any foot experts? Numbness while snowboarding.

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This year I swapped from Flow to Burton Cartel. I've always had some numbness in my lead foot which I assume is natural. This time I had serious numbness I'm two smallest toes which lasted a couple of months after my holiday.

I decided that my Northwave Legend boots which I've used for years must be too tight. They do feel v narrow in the toe box. After trying on a lot of boots I bought some Burton Hail which have a roomier toe.

First ride at a Snowdome and after 1 1/2 hours I considered stopping due to the pain. I stopped and loosened the boot off which seemed to help.

It is possible that after years on Flows I have over tightened the Cartels at first.

Is it likely that I've done some long term damage?

I have a large bunion on my foot where it leads to my biggest toe, could this affect blood flow to my smallest toes?


 
Posted : 03/09/2012 12:50 pm
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I had this with Flows - found that it took a day for my feet to get used to them, after the first day they were ok. I had to change to some normal bindings (because of an injury) and the numbness was gone!
Sorry, I'm not a foot expert, but just saying you're probably right in thinking it's binding related.
I've had one of those days where the pain is too much. Bloody awful to have snowboarding ruined by dodgy feet!


 
Posted : 03/09/2012 1:00 pm
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Still got me old faithfully flows, maybe another trip to the Snowdomw with them is the answer.


 
Posted : 03/09/2012 6:50 pm
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To be honest, I'd describe this as almost normal for ski or snowboard boots.

It always takes me at least 4 weeks to break in a new set of boots. For most people, that's 4 years....

I have short, wide feet myself. I've always got on best with Burton boots, but currently riding a set of Deelux custom-fitted by Sole boot-lab in Chamonix. They're great, best-fitting boots I've had, but still had an agonising 3/4 week break-in period!

EDIT: Have you had your hails heat-moulded? If not, get this done and get them to put caps on your toes when you do so, to give you a bit more space around the toes.


 
Posted : 03/09/2012 6:52 pm
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I haven't had them moulded, they've only done two hours at Xscape. Does it make a big difference?


 
Posted : 03/09/2012 6:58 pm
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I used to work in a French ski shop that specialised in boot fitting and I can guess that irregular pressure on the sole of your foot is to blame. Try and find a shop that offers an insole fitting service where they view your foot from underneath using a mirrored platform, then heat mould an insole to suit. Take your boots with you and suitable socks. The boot may be the wrong shape for your foot, but they may be able to deal with that too.
www.sidas.co.uk will be useful to look at.


 
Posted : 03/09/2012 7:06 pm
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Loosen the binding a bit and get your boots heat-moulded.


 
Posted : 03/09/2012 7:10 pm
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Yes, getting the liners moulded makes a big difference. It is actually pretty shocking that a shop would sell you the boots and not mould the liners for you!

As I said, get it done with a "toe-cap" on. If they can't give you one, you can improvise a bit by cutting the toes off a couple of pairs of old, thick socks and putting them inside your socks when moulding.

Actually, scratch that. If they can't give you a toe-cap, go somewhere else...


 
Posted : 03/09/2012 7:47 pm
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What they said about getting your boots heat molded, TSA or Snow and rock will be able to do it. But also the cartels have cap strap on the toes. These do not need to be done as tight as the old over the foot toe strap. It could be that you wratcheting the strap too tight and its putting pressure oh the smallest toes. Loosen off the toe strap a bit, it's only really there to balance the strapping the ankle strap is the really important bit. You can still ride without the toe strap.

Ride did some bindings (maybe still do i'm a bit out of touch nowadays) that didn't really have a toe strap just a single ankle strap that had a secondary bit that came down towards the toe.


 
Posted : 03/09/2012 7:54 pm
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Actually thinking about it, i'm not sure the northwave legend boots have heat moldable liners, they could be liners that mold to your feet using the heat from your feet. My miss us has legends and i'm sure that's what hers are like. Yours maybe newer though and therefore different.

Good excuse for new boots if you ask me!! I can recommend 32's.


 
Posted : 03/09/2012 7:59 pm
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The ones I'm on about are aftermarket insoles. You throw the supplied ones away and replace them with the custom moulded Sidas (or similar) type.


 
Posted : 03/09/2012 8:12 pm
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I'll give the molding thing a try then 🙂

I got fitted at Ellis Brighams but they only had them in White so I ordered them online hence no moulding.


 
Posted : 05/09/2012 10:33 am
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But white is the shiz bro!


 
Posted : 05/09/2012 10:43 am
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Not when your 41 and distinctly average 🙂


 
Posted : 05/09/2012 12:05 pm
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I found [url= http://www.stopheellift.com/bootfitproblemsolver.html ]this [/url]recently that might help you work out whats up.


 
Posted : 05/09/2012 12:14 pm
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A little tip for Snowboard boots, (I used to import and sell them) check the base of the boot, they only make the lasts in whole sizes, then they build the half sizes by increasing the size of the insert in the base of the actual boot, (not the liner) you can remove this, it drops your foot down and gives more room in the toe area, worth a look.

Other suggestion would always be to take time buying boots, go in the store wear them for some time, bear in mind in the store you and the boots are warm, the moment you get on the snow they shrink due to the cold, your feet on the other hand expand with the pressure riding places upon them so always go over size.

Useful measure, don't use US or UK sizing, use mondo point, 28.5 mondo point which is around a 9 - 9.5 UK is actually the length of your foot measured from the toe to heel, so 28.5 cms, measure your feet, know your actual size.

Bindings do amplify pressure points so ask to try the boots on in your bindings in store, a good shop should let you. Personally I'd never buy boots online, big mistake and if you get a decent pair hang onto them, I ride step ins and they're ven more difficult to get decent boots for, I'm still using obsolete Rapidfire Shimano's as a result, no idea what I'm going to do when they wear out..

Hope this helps.


 
Posted : 05/09/2012 12:14 pm
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A few free to try suggestions:

Completely back off your forward lean ie set it to near vertical. If this helps then adjust it until the pain comes back.

For me, I found stance angles has a big effect on foot pain. I much prefer 18/6 but it hurt too much in the instep and little toes. Now I have to ride 15/-6 with no foot pain but it doesn't feel as good.


 
Posted : 05/09/2012 12:35 pm
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Thanks for all that info, real food for thought.

Ok, sounds like I need to get my boots moulded first. I tried adjusting my lead foot outwards a little last time out.


 
Posted : 05/09/2012 3:14 pm
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You're welcome.


 
Posted : 05/09/2012 6:49 pm
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I use flows and thirty 2s. I've never had semi-permanent numbness, but usually get what I call "squashy foot" after the first run which is very painful. I think this is caused by the foot swelling a little as the blood flow initially increases.


 
Posted : 05/09/2012 7:28 pm