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[Closed] Anti-doping - what sport has most people get caught in the UK?

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We had the anti-doping people in at our club last night. This is the second time they've been this season. I was having a discussion with them and it naturally got round to cycling. They told me two things: that cycling still returns the most positive tests in the UK, and that all of he currect bans can be found on their website.

http://www.ukad.org.uk/anti-doping-rule-violations/current-violations/

Looks like there's a definite oval ball trend in those bans.

It does make me ask the question as to why there aren't more cyclists banned if they are the ones that test positive most frequently.


 
Posted : 20/03/2015 8:13 pm
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I suspect that cycling is testing more than a lot of other sports given it's recent history. That alone will result in more positive test.

Why positive tests aren't resulting in bans... no idea. False positives? Medical exemptions? Athlete no longer competing?


 
Posted : 20/03/2015 8:17 pm
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Where Is the sauce for the "most +ve tests" factoid? I'd guess this is wrong rather than loads of failed tests with no resulting ban.


 
Posted : 20/03/2015 8:18 pm
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Thats really surprising, but I guess it fits with the increasing demands made on Rugby players now
On a lighter note I love the name of the wrestler who got banned. Vahid Hosseinpoor


 
Posted : 20/03/2015 8:19 pm
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If you dig a little deeper football is tested the most.


 
Posted : 20/03/2015 8:24 pm
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Posted : 20/03/2015 8:39 pm
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Good article on how to beat the tests from someone who helps athletes do so for a living.

https://www.t-nation.com/steroids/beating-the-crossfit-drug-test


 
Posted : 20/03/2015 11:00 pm
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Crossfit isnt a sport though so it hardly counts. Anything with kipping pull ups is just stupid.


 
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Good article on how to beat the tests from someone who helps athletes do so for a living.
https://www.t-nation.com/steroids/beating-the-crossfit-drug-test

"Reverse catheterisation". Ouch!!


 
Posted : 21/03/2015 7:33 am
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Crossfit isnt a sport though so it hardly counts

More money in it that some professional sports though e.g. women cycling, Emma Pooley earnt more winning one Triathlon than an entire career as a pro cyclist inc a Silver in the Olympics.


 
Posted : 21/03/2015 2:23 pm
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What on Earth is Crossfit?


 
Posted : 21/03/2015 4:04 pm
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slowoldman - Crossfit is the pass time where the winner of their world championships is "the fittest person in the world". It's basically a load of marketing bollocks and exercises that injure people a hell of a lot.


 
Posted : 21/03/2015 9:04 pm
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Can you imagine if there was a sport that earned everyone involved many, many millions? And then someone turned up and suggested we should drug test athletes in this sport. And then the people involved realised this would stop them earning lots of money. So they used all their influence and power to stop drugs tests happening. Can you imagine that?

Crazy.


 
Posted : 22/03/2015 12:01 am
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Samuri - Football appears to be the sport that is tested the most.


 
Posted : 22/03/2015 12:04 am
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Fair enough. No footballer ever dopes to achieve their aims of earning £200k a week whereas cyclists are prepared to dope to earn that much a year. Thanks for highlighting my obvious bias. I feel so stupid now.


 
Posted : 22/03/2015 12:32 am
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Have you been drinking? Because you've completely missed the point of the thread.


 
Posted : 22/03/2015 12:37 am
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I have but I doubt it's clouding my judgement.

You said football is the most tested and yet the results show (as far as I was prepared to look), no positive results. Since the highest paid sport will be guaranteed to have the most dopers, if football (being the highest paid sport) is not the highest hit rate, the whole set of results must be viewed with suspicion.

Unless of course, we should start to regard footballers as echelons of civilised behaviour.


 
Posted : 22/03/2015 12:47 am
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you'll be getting upset about tennis players and golfists next


 
Posted : 22/03/2015 12:54 am
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Well rugby is the sport with the most dopers by far and they certainly shouldn't be regarded as echelons of civilised behaviour.


 
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Posted : 22/03/2015 8:35 am
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Rugby isnt an olympic sport...


 
Posted : 22/03/2015 8:38 am
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Sevens is an Olympic sport from Rio onwards.

Matt


 
Posted : 22/03/2015 9:42 am
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Fair enough. No footballer ever dopes to achieve their aims of earning £200k a week whereas cyclists are prepared to dope to earn that much a year.

They're not very comparable sports though. Cycling is almost 100% performance, some strategy and luck aside the winner of a grand tour is going to be that bit fitter than the rest of the field - so a performance enhancing drug will influence the outcome of that competition quite markedly. Football is principally a skill based game - players need to be fit enough to play as well as their skills allow them to for the duration of the match, but being fitter than that doesn't makes them better players - I don't know if there's a drug that makes you better at free kicks or keepie-uppies or falling over and clutching your shin.

Rugby would be in the middle ground as its a game of physical force as well as skill

If money was the motivating factor to cheat there'd be no doping in amateur sport.


 
Posted : 22/03/2015 10:15 am