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Anyone remove their shower cubicle and just tile everything instead? Drain needs fitting into the floor of course, and a slope of some kind to help water drain.. then the tiles need to be really waterproof..

How much of a faff is it?


 
Posted : 10/01/2017 2:25 pm
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You normally buy a wetroom kit + tanking for the rest of the room as if it isn't completely sealed you are going to have a very bad day also you need some fall to ensure the water drains away and doesn't sit in puddles. Does the bathroom have a concrete floor? As if it isn't you need to ensure the floor doesn't flex or else it will leak.

I've seen some shit installs leak and then rot out joists or turn rooms into mould traps.

Google wetroom kit there are tons of them out there.

What I've done is get a low profile big tray and then tile upto so there was less than a 10mm lip going from the tiles to the tray which was cheaper and much easier and looked OK.


 
Posted : 10/01/2017 2:30 pm
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A blooming big one is the quick answer..... And expensive compare to a tray.

I like mine but would only do it again if the rest of the bathroom (and house, come to that) warrants it. .... ie nouveau posh essex ... just like mine 🙂


 
Posted : 10/01/2017 2:30 pm
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We have a cheap looking plastic shower tray, with a sliding door.

I'll check out the kits.

What I've done is get a low profile big tray and then tile upto so there was less than a 10mm lip going from the tiles to the tray which was cheaper and much easier and looked OK.

Meaning raise the floor int he rest of the room?

Bedroom has wood floor which is quite thick, so there is a good 20mm to work with.


 
Posted : 10/01/2017 2:38 pm
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No, I think he means that if you get a low profile tray and you fit that to the floor. You then lay your floor tiles up the the tray (rather than under it) so the eventual height difference is pretty small.

It's what we're going to do in our en suite refurb.


 
Posted : 10/01/2017 2:48 pm
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Just watched a Wickes video on how to do it. They cut out the floor and recessed the tray into it, supporting from underneath, then used ply to bring the rest of the floor level.

No, I think he means that if you get a low profile tray and you fit that to the floor. You then lay your floor tiles up the the tray (rather than under it) so the eventual height difference is pretty small.

That's what I was imagining. However the thinnest trays I've found have been 30mm which would probably still make it taller than the floor in the bedroom (this is an en-suite).


 
Posted : 10/01/2017 2:55 pm
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Are you asking about faff having one or the fitting of it?

We have 3 wetrooms and all are great. No leaks. No damp. No puddling of water. There's a 2cm step into the (1.5m2) shower area. We don't have shower curtains or anything else.

We do have a few of these around 2 of the sinks to save wet socks if you brush your teeth straight after a shower.

Wetroom's are great. No leaking shower trays, worry about reaching for a towel or that nonsense.


 
Posted : 10/01/2017 2:59 pm
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Yes, as sharkbait said.

I got one of these:
https://www.plumbnation.co.uk/site/mira-flight-low-profile-rectangle-shower-tray/?gclid=CJGGtMDqt9ECFcSfGwodd0YGDg

Which is 40mm deep, I then put down a 10mm thermal board (to reduce the chill on the tiles) then ~ 4mm for adhesive + thick tiles ~12mm; and I then butted the tiles upto to shower tray and sealed with flexible grout and sealant.

So that looks like it would have ~14mm gap, however as there is a lot of ~ its closer to 10mm. You could drop it by more by putting in two sets of insulating boards.


 
Posted : 10/01/2017 3:00 pm
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Are you asking about faff having one or the fitting of it?

DIY.

Due to water splashing, orange stains in inaccessible sliding door grooves, and fluff from towels on skirting boards and so on, our bathroom looks dirty all the time, so it'll be the first to be rennovated.

Not sure we want underfloor heating in it - it's always dead warm in there because it's next to the airing cupboard and the big towel rail is the first thing on the circuit. But then again - floor is pretty small and warm floors are mmmm


 
Posted : 10/01/2017 3:06 pm
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My parents had this done. The builder messed it up pretty badly, so my dad had to rip up the floor and redo the slope toward the drain.

It just has to be done right the first time, or you risk water damage to your whole bathroom.


 
Posted : 10/01/2017 3:16 pm
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Done what richc said - low pro tray and build up floor with cement / backer boards. I had elec UFH which raises tiles a little too. So 6mm board + thickish tiles and some gunk = ~ 25mm.

Nice (not cheap) trays like this:
[url= http://www.crosswater.co.uk/product/showering-shower-trays-browse-by-material-25mm-stone-resin/rectangular-25mm-stone-resin-shower-tray-and-waste-stone-resin-25-rect/ ]Crosswater Stone Resin Tray 25mm[/url]

Minimal faff. Floor joists run in the right direction for the waste to go in between ...?


 
Posted : 10/01/2017 3:38 pm
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Those crosswater trays are a spendy 😯


 
Posted : 10/01/2017 3:50 pm
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redo the slope toward the drain

I'd not be so confident if you coudn't get the pre-made drain units to tile onto. Seems pretty straightforward.

I think the waste is attached to a fexible pipe in the existing bathroom so should be ok. This is an in-place replacement, so should be easy as. Keep the same shower.

Did any of you guys end up with a step up into the bathroom?


 
Posted : 10/01/2017 3:59 pm
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Yes they ain't cheap. Or light (40+kg for a biggie!)

But the other stuff they sell makes the tray seem a bargain!
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Got a decent discount at local supplier tho...


 
Posted : 10/01/2017 4:01 pm