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Interesting to see who is currently winning the propoganda war:
An opinion poll commissioned by BBC News suggests 61% of people believe public sector workers are justified in going on strike over pension changes.
Wow - I am surprised 😯
enfht - MemberAnd Ernie you STILL go quiet when I mention your hero Che the terrorist.
I never go quiet when you post anything enfht, you do such a good job of discrediting Daily Mail readers/Tory voting dimwits, I just like to egg you on 😀
So you want to talk about Che on a thread about public sector pensions ?!!! Oh go on then. Yes he's an inspirational hero. Jean-Paul Sartre called him "the most complete man in history". What ju reckon ? Personally I think it's overstating the point, but I know what he meant.
TandemJeremy - Member
Wow - I am surprised
+ 1 😯
Fiveundred! 😀
Wow - I am surprised
And I don't really believe it. A YouGov poll put support for the [i]teachers[/i] striking at 41% and opposition at 49%, and considerably less for civil servants, which I think is probably more realistic.
But even that is impressive considering that nigh on 100% of newspapers are opposed to the public sector unions striking. So considering that many people won't have been able to read the public sector unions case, and will mostly have heard the governments' side of the argument, it suggests that many people are supporting them for more emotional reasons, rather than because they have heard the unions side of the argument.
They very likely see it in terms of a Tory government attacking working people. What is otherwise known as class consciousness. All very encouraging. Specially as the Tories have their own highly develop sense of class conscious, so it's nice to see ordinary common people developing theirs.
I wish I worked for a company that let me read through and contribute to these posts in more detail and in works time 😉
Given that 20% of the workforce are in the public sector maybe 60% overall support is possible?
Bear in mind that a lot of private sector people will either be married or otherwise closely related to someone in the public sector so will likely share their sense of grievance.
Also, the public sector cuts through a lot of class barriers (unlike coal mining for example) - there are a lot of very middle class / upper middle class female teachers in primary schools plus many doctors who will be affected and may well be explaining to their traditionally Tory mates that this is a step too far.
Also I think some of the increasingly histrionic rhetoric from the likes of Gove and Maude doesn't play well and does a lot to remind people what a bunch of arrogant toffs the Tory high command are, and how very little "we are all in this together".
Finally of course, there may well be a reaction to Osbourne's statement tomorrow that may well make a difference to the way the strike plays out on Wednesday.
Maybe it's about time this forum had a polling function added?
Jeeze that bloke really, really, cannot sing. 🙁
[i]Because we're Tory, and that's what we do.[/i]
😆
cant sing you say
If I wanted sympathy for my industrial action I would give out homework exemptions. As the subject of Goodwin's said "If you refuse to support me, I will laugh as your children are already mine." Wanders off to waste the taxpayers resources...
Also I think some of the increasingly histrionic rhetoric from the likes of Gove and Maude doesn't play well and does a lot to remind people what a bunch of arrogant toffs the Tory high command are, and how very little "we are all in this together".
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Michael Gove stole £7000 of taxpayers money during the last parliament, he was ordered by his leader to hand it back, Maude claimed £35000 mortgage expenses for his second home when his first home was less than a minutes walk away. We should take no lectures from these liars and thieves.
Francis Maude will receive a £731,000 pension. Paid for by the taxpayer.
Francis Maude will receive a £731,000 pension.
That doesn't sound right.
Its from a Red Top, but they don't lie do they?
[url= http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/most-popular/2011/11/22/pension-slashing-minister-francis-maude-could-pick-up-731k-retirement-pot-115875-23579471/ ]Francis Maude will receive a £731,000 pension.[/url]
Ah, that would be a £43,000 pension then.
Poor old sod if that's all he's going to have to live on in his retirement - but I bet it's not.
Funny thing perception.
Reading back you lot got all upset by me taking the piss out of your workshy ethics.
And Ernie you STILL go quiet when I mention your hero Che the terrorist.
Workshy ethics? That's a pretty sweeping generalisation troll-boy ( that's how I'll refer to you from now on)..
How'd you fancy coming out and doing a 12 hour nightshift with me, then let me know if you think public sector workers are "workshy" as you so eloquently put it.
Workshy FFS, brilliant (wanders off to bed laughing at troll-boy and "workshy"... S****)
I didn't even bite to that one. I don't need to I know those peoples who've I've helped over the last 22 years will certainly never think of me as work shy or their families.
Anyway I'm off for a snooze as work tonight at 7 for 12 hours not that I'll be working of course being in the public sector.
Me too Drac, promises to be abusy one. 'night.
I alway expect a busy one that way if it's quiet it's like Xmas.
Don't you not knocking Enfht
I wasn't, just a little concerned by his, (and for that matter quite a few others), displaced anger.
Sorry for calling you a **** Drac 😆