[Closed] "All the people..."

Well, humans aren't what they used to be...

Maybe we should be matured more, like Guinness.

Population in exponential growth shocker. Maths not your strong suit?

Exponential growth phase innit?

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Top level rumpy pumpy phase innit?

FTFY.

molgrips - Member

Population in exponential growth shocker. Maths not your strong suit?

Gee that's so enlightening. What makes you suppose that's got anything to do with my post? And while you're at it - (includes comment that gets him back on the naughty step)...

... and thanks for dragging it down to the personal level, BTW. 🙄

My point is that it's well known that populations grow this way. It's fairly obvious if you think about it.

I'm sorry if you were offended, it was simply intended to be robust banter.

Well I found it interesting

The thing is you'd HOPE that human being were slightly more intelligent than bacteria. That we [i]might[/i] be able to see the consequences and reduce our population growth before we run out of resources.

But despite [url= http://www.populationmatters.org/about/ ]the best efforts of some[/url], this seems highly unlikely.

molgrips - Member

My point is that

That's not, however, my point. Which I will now explain for you, so you can understand it.

Having suffered the hell of chaos and violence that is the A24 during peak time on a daily basis, on a bike, with people having face-to-face stand up rows, accidents and the thundering of daily emergency vehicles charging up and down it, I realised that it was all caused by a huge number of people all crammed into a tiny space trying to simply get to where they wanted to be.

Want me to extrapolate that for you? (I assume you know what "extrapolate" means. Perhaps unwisely.)

how are we all going to fit into heaven?

So, your point is that London is busy.

Ok thanks for that 🙂

Just because there's more of us around doesn't mean we have to fight over the Internet. 🙄

It's not the numbers being born, it's the number of deaths.

Selfish grand ma stubbornly clinging on.

I seem to remember birth rates are something like a third what they would have been 300 years ago (per capita)

Next you'll be telling us that the Pope may in fact be a Catholic.......

Cheeky trails will be getting more crowded. Enjoy it while you can.

Catholic my posterior, Satanist if anything.

It's all a con trick

Molgrips has a valid point.
It's basic scientific knowledge.
How did you not know?
Creationist?

Doesn't the big rise in population coincide with the discovery of vaccines or antibiotics? Bloody Pasteur & Fleming. They're responsible for this mess.

No need to worry - there will be off world colonies . A chance to begin again in a golden land of opportunity and adventure.

molgrips - Member

So, your point is that London is busy.

No it's not. I can't be bothered to try making again, though. You must be too highly developed to understand it.

I seem to remember birth rates are something like a third what they would have been 300 years ago (per capita)

Birth rates per capita have been fairly consistent at 1, haven't they?

Birth rates per capita have been fairly consistent at 1, haven't they?

Git you know what I meant.

Sigh

iirc it's gone from something like 80 births per 1000 to just shy if 20. Can't remember where I saw that sadly.

It's not neccesarily the fact that more people are being born (but more people re-produce more) but the fact that less people are dying. Medical science has eradicated many of the illnesses and diseases that used to control the population.

Bloody Pasteur & Fleming. They're responsible for this mess.

Basically 😆

Birth rates per capita have been fairly consistent at 1, haven't they?

Only if you exclude the Born Again Christians 😉

It's OK, once all the antibiotics stop working as the pathogens develop resistance, we'll be able to get back to more traditional death rates. Problem solved.

It's not the numbers being born, it's the number of deaths.

Selfish grand ma stubbornly clinging on.

I seem to remember birth rates are something like a third what they would have been 300 years ago (per capita)

It's not grandma that the issue, it's the lack of infant deaths.

(For the record: babies dying is bad, but keeping the birth rate high at the same time is bad.)

Just wait for the antibiotics to stop working that'll readdress the situation. 😕

According to the latest scaremongers that'll be in about 20 years time.

edit" [b]BALLS BEATEN TO IT[/b] 👿

Mr Woppit - Member

molgrips - Member

So, your point is that London is busy.

No it's not. I can't be bothered to try making again, though. You must be too highly developed to understand it.

back, lads it's..

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Just read this statistic: It took 200,000 years to produce a population of one billion humans. It took just 13 years to produce the next billion...

Welcome to the basic concept of exponential growth.

Worth a watch and quite interesting.

I'm sure I saw a statistic last year stating that there are currently more humans alive now than there are dead.

(i.e. if every human that had ever walked the earth was alive now, the current population would still outnumber them.)

I've seen that stated as well, it's wrong tho.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16870579

That's where i read the stuff about birth rate as well.

Mr Woppit - Member

It took 200,000 years to produce a population of one billion humans.

You are obviously a creationist Woppit, which I have to say comes as a bit of a surprise.

It took several billion years of evolution to produce a population of one billion humans.

😆

I think he may be referring to modern humans like us who have been around for about 200000 years.....

Quite. Wake up at the back, "ernie". Your smartarse act is getting a bit threadbare.

Quite.

So modern humans magically appeared 200,000 years ago ?

Yes, that's about the sum of it. One minute not there, then kapow, there they are.

Of course, it might be an arbitrary date given to help make sense of relatively vast time scales. But that would be silly.

Besides, YAWN

Still quite a scary thought in terms of the impact of the population in say 20 years time. Maybe the plot of Channel 4s Utopia wasn't such a bad idea...

it might be an arbitrary date given to help make sense of relatively vast time scales

I can make perfect sense of the relatively vast time scale involved on evolution. I'm simply trying to help Woppit think beyond the creationist mindset and develop a deeper understanding of the concept of evolution. Genesis might provide an easy to understand story, but a more scientific explanation which recognises that all species are the result of billions of years of evolution should imo be encouraged.

BTW I ignored the fact that he also appears to have got confused with the timescale involving the first and second billion of humans. The global human population reached one billion at around 1800 AD, it was 130 years later when it reached two billion, not 13 years later as he claims, but I didn't want to appear to be nitpicking ...... timescales are clearly not his strong point 🙂

😆 Thanks Ernie.