[Closed] Action Man is back... and this time he means business

Great. Let's teach our kids that war is just a game...

Probbly less damaging than violent computer games though.

Ah well, if it makes money, who cares, eh?

There's going to be a female version too....modelled on a very dear friend of mine!

Thatcher?

Yawn.

What a load of crap!
I played with Action Man, toy guns and model soldiers all through my childhood.
Never entered my head to join the army or shoot anyone.
Perhaps kids are more stupid nowadays.

Are the army recruiting small children now? If so, then shame on them. That clearly is a recruiting tool. If not then people need to get a grip.

RudeBoy
Probbly less damaging than violent computer games though.

You mean those BBFC 18 certificate games? Yeah they may might be unsuitable for children. Damaging though?, doubt it.

Only to use as sandbags 😉

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Everyone played "soldiers" when I was a kid. When my mum decided she didn't want me having toy guns I just made them out of lego instead.

I was in the cubs, the scouts and the army cadets.

I don't have the urge to shoot people, nor do I think war would be a bit of a laugh.

Actionman rides SS

Action man clearly has an internal gearbox. And he rides DH. Presumably because his enemies must like to congregate at the bottom of hills.

At any rate he's trying too hard. Colour co-ordinated bike and kit? tut tut.

Spose it's a bit more exciting than Postman Pat of Bob the Builder, but I think kids should be encouraged to play with more constructive toys and ideas.

I had an Action Man, and I've been done for violent offences, so it's clearly warped my mind.

I blame Palitoy.

Why can't the bike toy above not have the rocket-launcher? Why not just a bike?

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That's one helluv an orgy in the making!!

Children who play with action men don't start wars, politicans do. We need to find out whatever toys people like Blair and Bush played with and ban those.

I'm guessing they were allowed to play with their sisters dolls.

The world was a peaceful utopian dream until children started playing with figurines shaped like soldiers.....no wait......the world has become a much more peaceful place since children's toys were sanitised.....no.....er....wait. 😕

RudeBoy the true threat to "our children's innocence" isn't plastic dolls, it is the ready availability of porn which is normalising extreme sexual practises and creating a severely distorted body image in the young.

To this end I am currently conducting an thorough internet-wide survey of all this filth and depravity.

That's a rocket launcher? I thought it was some kind of headlight...

And those front brakes look a little small if the bikes going to be heavy. Upgrade to something bigger?

I actually object quite strongly to kids playing with toy guns. Given that I do clay pigeon shooting and have been shooting rifles since I was about 15, that's quite a strange attitude. But then again, I am very keen on gun safety and every time my nephew points a toy gun at me and shouts "bang" he gets a right lecture. I really dislike kids having toy guns.

That's no rocket launcher it's the top of his rear suspension which he can configure as he blasting down the trails getting some rad air and s41t.

I can't figure out how he turns though?

War (huh) what is it good for?

willard

I actually object quite strongly to kids playing with toy guns. Given that I do clay pigeon shooting and have been shooting rifles since I was about 15, that's quite a strange attitude. But then again, I am very keen on gun safety and every time my nephew points a toy gun at me and shouts "bang" he gets a right lecture. I really dislike kids having toy guns.

Do you object so strongly to children breaking branches off trees and pretending they are swords?

Only if they are my trees.

They should use pipe lagging if they want to pretend to have a sword fight. it's much less dangerous.

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Excellent move on these, thats the next few birthdays for my boys sorted, I played with Action Men as a kid & have shot anybody in my life. Can't say I have dug any real sized foxholes either, lots of time digging them as kids though ... bring them on fast, I have a 6 year olds birthday to buy for this weekend

Some of those 1965 original action men are still in my parents loft - is there going to be a parallel retro revival?

People really need to wake up. Kids will fight with stickes and toy guns and whatever their imagination comes up with. They then learn about conflict, arguing, debate, reconcilliation, friends, getting hurt and so on. If you educate them well they will learn well.

Leave them to bash each other a bit, dont wrap them in cotton wool and take toy guns from them. But I do think free and easy access to pron will have lasting consequences we may regret later.

There already has been a bit of a retro revival, a UK company bought the rights to remake the originals in near to perfectly matched sweatshop conditions (or something like that)

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But I do think free and easy access to pron will have lasting consequences we may regret later.

Don't agree. I've been looking at pron for as long as I can remember, and I'm not a rapist, not have I ever sexually assaulted anyone. I feel my sexual attitudes are pretty healthy.

I am, however, a violent convicted criminal.

It's 'cos I played with Action Man and guns, as a child. Warped my fragile little mind.

In fact, just seeing those Action Man pics, makes me want to go and machine-gun people in a busy shopping street.

(Wonders whether it's actually safe or not, to go to Greggs for some doughnuts...)

Can't call it Violence or War, let's call it Action instead...

Don't agree. I've been looking at pron for as long as I can remember...

Yeah but most of that you'll have been watching as an adult.

When folk of our generation were kids then the only glimpse of porn you had was when someone brought in a copy of Razzle he nicked off his older brother.

These days kids start looking at pron at age 11 onwards and have easy and instant access to literally billions of images and videos. Teenagers (boys and girls) watch 90 minutes of pron a week and most have seen "illegal stuff".

I consider myself fairly liberal in such matters, but that "Sex Education vs Pornography" show on Channel 4 (despite obviously being very sensationalist) has been a real eyeopener for me. The kids had literally no idea what a "normal" body looked like (i.e. not surgically enhanced, shaven, waxed, bleached and airbrushed) and had a very distorted view of their own bodies and what "normal" sex involved (i.e. one partner, some love, no equipment or gerbils).

bring back conscription I sure that all those kiddies who had action man will be well prepared.

I got one of these for Christmas once - 'kin ace it was

All I think about now is shooting people & kittens

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Is this the same as man action?

Yeah but most of that you'll have been watching as an adult.

No, we had a plentiful supply of pron, and not just yer nice tame British Pron, either. There was a printers nearby, that produced mags, and they'd regularly have a skip outside with print failures and rejects. The streets round our way were literally paved in pron.

Although kids today do have easier access as a whole, I agree. And there is an issue with body-image and that, true.

But they also have access to violent films and images. All sorts of nasty things on tinternet; beheading video, anyone?

When you hear kids laughing about something like that, you have to have some concern. The normalisation of violence isn't good. People seem to be desensitised to such an extent, that scenes of real killing have little effect on them. That, I find disturbing.

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I got one of these for Christmas once - 'kin ace it was

All I think about now is shooting people & kittens

See? Scarred for life...

What 8 year old wouldn't want the talking Adolf?
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No, we had a plentiful supply of pron, and not just yer nice tame British Pron, either.

Yeah but it was printed, therefore it still had to pass the Obscene Publications Act (or whatever). It was unlikely to feature violence, animals or children and it wasn't full technicolor video and stereo sound.

The streets round our way were literally paved in pron.

I thought the street of Laaahndaan Taahn were paved with gold?
Pron sounds much better.

Dick Witheringson?

When you hear kids laughing about something like that, you have to have some concern. The normalisation of violence isn't good.

Agreed.

Scrub Adolf, nazi babes are much more character forming
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Yeah but it was printed, therefore it still had to pass the Obscene Publications Act

Nope. It was operating illegally, and was eventually shut down (bit dopey, leaving a skip-load of dodgy pron outside, for the local kids to raid). Plenty of Un-British stuff, let me tell you.

Far too easy to get hold of sick stuff off tinternet though, sexual and violent.

Tell me that sexy Nazi doll isn't for real....

How TF do people find this stuff? What on Earth are you Googling???

You think Nazis are sexy you sicko? Anyway $128.49 to you
http://www.toywizard.net/hot-toys-12-the-spirit-silken-floss-action-figure/

I want one...

I don't know why. I just want one.

GrahamS

I consider myself fairly liberal in such matters, but that "Sex Education vs Pornography" show on Channel 4[b] (despite obviously being very sensationalist) has been a real eyeopener for me[/b].

That was one of the most blatantly sensationalist pieces of trash I've ever had the misfortune of seeing on television and surprise surprise it worked on people.

That bloody annoying woman claimed to have found child porn "completely by accident" within the space of what appeared to be two minutes. She actually bothered to mention the miniscule time it took for her to find it and how disgusted her and the crew were. Perhaps she should be reported for downloading child porn? I dont care to remember how much pron I've looked at on the internet (suffice to say more than two minutes worth) and I've yet to stumble across anything more deviant than bondage or scat.

The way the show was edited implied that there was free and easy access to the most depraved acts imaginable and they were literally forced at you as soon as you looked at t'internet.

As for bestiality and the various extreme acts that these wide eyed innocents are being subjected to - don't be so naive as to believe that teens dont know what is normal and what is completely deviant. They watch these things for the novelty and the shock factor - the same way most adults do. Did anyone actually get aroused by two girls one cup? I highly doubt it.

Various vhs tapes featuring bestial acts were circulated around my school (probably hundreds of times) when I was in my early teens. At the time I never saw it, but many who did still managed to grow up relatively normally. It was watched for shock value and novelty factor pure and simple. Not unlike many "video nastys" which were also doing the rounds at the same time.

As for the boys not knowing what real breasts look like - again sensationalist twaddle. Everything in the show was set up to shock and appal adults, not educate teens. They had a pair of "perfect" fake breasts juxtaposed with actually quite unattractive "real breasts" in my personal opinion. Of all the breasts I've seen in real life (which were all real btw and I've seen a fair few), none of them were as droopy or as mismatched or generally odd looking as the selection they presented to compare with the fake ones. Obviously the lads were going to choose the fake ones. Go into any bar, building site or factory and ask a cross section of men of any age and they would probably choose the same ones - we are talking about men looking at bloody boobs ffs, they aren't going to agonise over it are they?

Utter utter keek. Of course people will probably complain about the nudity in the show, I doubt anyone will complain that it was insulting to everyone's intelligence.

See why I sold my tv?

Great thread, tits, guns, bikes... Perfect Friday afternoon material 😀

GNARGNAR: as I said it was very sensationalist and I'm certainly not niave enough to take it all at face value.

The "oops I accidentally found child porn in just one search" bit was very very contrived.
The "why can't I buy a computer with internets that don't have porn" was idiotic.
And yes it was clearly aimed at adults. Wasn't that pretty much the point of the show?

But I do think it raised some good points. These kids are learning sexual behaviour and values from hardcore porn.

Yes there were video nasties around when we were kids. But they were just that: "nasties". Everyone knew those videos were unusual, rare and outside the social norm.

Now they have constant and easy access to extreme porn then I think there is a real danger that it will normalize those sexual behaviours, attitudes and warped body images. If they are no longer the "nasties", they become the norm.

I see what yer saying, Graham, but I do think that most pron is pretty harmless really. And it gets boring after a while, anyway. There is some worryingly disturbing stuff out there though.

As a (reasonably) well adjusted and sexually assured adult, I chose not to look at anything that I find abhorrent or repulsive. I don't have a problem with others seeking their kicks, mind, as long as the content is of a consensual nature. As for 'mudsports' and that, well, to each their own, but it dun't seem very hygienic. Owt involving kids and animals is sick, no question.

It's not the gun that kills, but the nutter who pulls the trigger...

RudeBoy: I agree most porn is fairly harmless, even fairly extreme stuff, but only to mature and experienced adults not to 11 year olds who have no context to put it in.

I'm not pro-censorship and I'm well aware that "protect the children" is the battlecry of the censorship lobby.

But I'm not sure I know what the answer is. Probably talking to kids about porn is a good start.

sweet , harmles fun , when i was that young , mine had the SS uniform the lot , must agree with mogrim. get a grip people its a toy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree totally (how TF has this turned into me [i]not[/i] arguing with someone?). Likwise, I believe, with guns and war. Trouble is, whereas sex is something all parents will have sperience of, war and violence is not, therefore it maybe difficult to put it into a context a child can understand. And I'm not keen on the idea of showing them pics of war, or the results of violence.

I don't think the MOD releasing Action Man style toys is a particularly healthy and progressive idea. I fail to see how further encouraging children to see war as a 'game', is all that positive for their development.

I dunno. I think Trimix made pretty good points about learning conflict resolution, consequences, teamwork and so on.

But I'm going to bed so I'll leave you to debate that with someone else 🙂

Rude boy, left to their own devices children will tear lumps out of each other - it's in their nature. You don't have to explain violence to them, you have to explain non-violence to them.