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I've just been accosted by a VERY angry man who lives opposite, and accused of, amongst othger things, being a discgrace to the human race and a disturbance to the neighbourhood. My crime; unlocking my car, which shone its headlights at their house, which made their dog bark. It all got a bit shouty; It wasn't my finest hour.

Oh well. In FINEST STW FASHION, I have responded thus; A strongly worded letter to the fellow. I have copied and pated it below for you amusement/pisstakery etc. I havent decided whether I will actually post it to him yet, but it's made me feel a bit better. If I do send it though, I'm going to copy in all the nieghbours... 😈

Dear angry man of <redacted> Drive,

I am very disappointed in both yours and my conduct this evening. I feel that I have let myself down; whilst being shouted at and called names on my own drive for no good reason is certainly a provocative act, I should not have met your anger with more anger, and I should have kept my thoughts about a fifty odd year old man who lives with his mother to myself. For this I can only apologise.

You accused me of ‘flashing my lights’ in your window. Whilst I accept that the headlights of my car did indeed shine in your window, I can assure you that this was not intentional. Modern car headlights usually come on when the car is unlocked, and my car is no different. Of course, as this causes a problem for your lap dog, I will try to remember not to reverse park on my drive in future. Of course, you could also just draw the curtains or train your dog not to bark in an antisocial and unneighbourly manner, but I suspect that might be asking too much.

What I would suggest however, is that you take a long hard look at yourself when it comes to how you approach other people when there is a problem that needs discussing. I’m afraid that striding across the road, ranting and raving, slinging insults and actually [i]punching my car[/i] is probably not the best way to achieve a resolution acceptable to all parties. In fact, you are very lucky; if I actually WAS the ‘disgrace to the human race’ that you accused me of being tonight, then things could have ended very differently for you. Not all fathers would react as reticently as I did faced with a direct threat made against their children. I realised that you were saying things that you didn’t mean in the heat of the moment; I think you should be glad of that.

I have lived in this house for more than two years now, and I am disappointed to say that this is the first conversation that I have ever had with you. The only conversation that I have ever had with your mother is when she felt that it was appropriate to question my parenting when I was allowing my boys to play outside on their bikes. On a quiet cull de sac. It was none of her business. This was pointed out to her. On this occasion, the exchange remained polite, if terse. I am sorry, but I think that it is probably just good manners to get to know someone [i]at least a little bit[/i] before you question their abilities as a father. Not a single other household has been as singularly unwelcoming as yours. In fact, everyone else has been friendly and neighbourly.

I will close by saying that, despite the events of this evening, I harbour no ill will to you. I am entirely open to wiping the slate clean, and sharing a cup of tea with you, whilst discussing the weather, kids these days, gardening, or whatever else floats your boat. All that I would require a reciprocation of my apology for this to happen. I suspect, however, that you will not be able to bring yourself to accept my olive branch. In which case, I would suggest that we never interact again. Under no circumstances would you be welcome on my property, and should I find you trespassing again, you will be escorted to the public highway, using the minimum reasonable force that I deem necessary.
I look forward to sharing that cuppa soon (but don’t have high hopes),

Kind regards

Bemused of 23


 
Posted : 31/03/2016 8:24 pm
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TAke it over there now! It's perfect.
Especially the bit about the 50 y/o man living with mother.


 
Posted : 31/03/2016 8:31 pm
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[b]cull[/b] de sac

Could be appropriate when he reads that 🙂


 
Posted : 31/03/2016 8:34 pm
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Why thank you. bloody Word auto correct...


 
Posted : 31/03/2016 8:35 pm
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Printed? No no, a letter like that should be in finest green Crayola.


 
Posted : 31/03/2016 8:41 pm
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Invite him for dinner and overlook him for pudding.


 
Posted : 31/03/2016 8:47 pm
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Nah written in blood red ink....witha big splatter across the middle and a hand print instead of a signature.


 
Posted : 31/03/2016 8:50 pm
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passive-aggressive point scoring bollocks

go and talk to him instead


 
Posted : 31/03/2016 8:50 pm
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I thought this was going to be about some mini eggs.


 
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Posted : 31/03/2016 8:51 pm
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Attach to a brick and sling it at the dog . Then hoof in the slats (dog and the 50 year old virgin)


 
Posted : 31/03/2016 8:54 pm
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I thought this was going to be about some mini eggs.

It's OK, despite the rest of the issues, they do at least scoop the poop.


 
Posted : 31/03/2016 8:55 pm
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passive-aggressive point scoring bollocks
go and talk to him instead
😀 😆 absolutely! What else. (You may have failed to grasp the humour of my post) Talking to him is NOT going to work though. I was a bit concerned he was going to stroke out. We are not talking a reasonable human being here.
<good 'storm in a teacup' pic>
Yup, I'm very glad this is all I have to worry about on the neighbour from hell front.


 
Posted : 31/03/2016 8:58 pm
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+1 on it's passive aggressive I'm afraid.
If that's what you want to say to him - say it to his face.
Personally I find that people who're that nuts aren't very good at acting like adults even if you treat them like one so worth saying it to his face but I wouldn't expect a very positive response
Such a shame that angry people have to infect everyone else's world with their own problems


 
Posted : 31/03/2016 8:59 pm
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Especially the bit about the 50 y/o man living with mother.

No no, she lives with him 😀


 
Posted : 31/03/2016 9:02 pm
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It's OK, despite the rest of the issues, they do at least scoop the poop.

Your egg jokes are on a roll tonigh. 😆


 
Posted : 31/03/2016 9:05 pm
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[quote=km79 said]
No no, she lives with him

I've seen that film.

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Posted : 31/03/2016 9:06 pm
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A letter like that and no mention of bombers is poor.


 
Posted : 31/03/2016 9:10 pm
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(You may have failed to grasp the humour of my post)
you know, I think you're right. Maybe you could post it again, with the funny bits in bold or something ?

... kidding ! <passive-aggressive smiley>


 
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Drac, you keep setting 'em up and I'll keep knocking 'em over! 🙂


 
Posted : 31/03/2016 9:11 pm
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the only response to this is

"close your curtains"

and then turn and walk away.


 
Posted : 31/03/2016 9:11 pm
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you know, I think you're right. Maybe you could post it again, with the funny bits in bold or something ?
😆 😆 😆 git! Touché 😛


 
Posted : 31/03/2016 9:14 pm
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Personally I find that people who're that nuts aren't very good at acting like adults

Fair point that. Perhaps a less direct approach is called for here. Have you considered leaving him a poor review on TripAdvisor?


 
Posted : 31/03/2016 9:15 pm
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I think that letter is unlikely to diffuse any existing tension.


 
Posted : 31/03/2016 9:20 pm
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I think that letter is unlikely to diffuse any existing tension.
Do you reckon? I had already ordered the Yorkshire tea and best biscuits in readiness for him popping over... Darn it. More biscuits for me than I suppose.


 
Posted : 31/03/2016 9:24 pm
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Play it right OP and there is some long term sport to be had here.


 
Posted : 31/03/2016 9:28 pm
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I am with allthepies,when is the last time you saw the mother outside?

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Posted : 31/03/2016 9:29 pm
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Sounds reasonable. If a grown man threatened my stepkids in front of me then I don't think I'd be quite so polite about my response.


 
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Not all fathers would react as reticently as I did faced with a direct threat made against their children.

If this was what it sounds like, do whatever the **** you want. If you haven't whacked him, then you have plenty of moral high ground and probably still have a bit even if you did.


 
Posted : 31/03/2016 9:35 pm
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Do you reckon? I had already ordered the Yorkshire tea and best biscuits in readiness for him popping over... Darn it. More biscuits for me than I suppose.

Sarcasm?


 
Posted : 31/03/2016 9:42 pm
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Moab.

That is not a teacup. I bet you live with your mum.

PS keep your mutt under control.


 
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"Strongly worded" reminds me of this email I received after our event a while back...

At the time I thought the STW collective might help me with the reply, but since he didn't ask for one, he didn't get one so kept him guessing.

Dear XXX, I was barged out of the way today by over a hundred cyclists while I and my wife were walking on XXX this morning. While most of the cyclists were clearly nice enough people, several simply raced past downhill, quite literally inches from us, at high speed; one clearly thought we should get out of the way and even complained that we had 'plenty of room' (though we didn't). Quite apart from the imposition on people who are out for a quiet walk along footpaths (not cycle paths or adventure routes, such as the one on XXX, which would be fair enough), XXX is an exceptional piece of the natural and historic heritage of XXX--it is not an adventure route. No doubt you think this is very curmudgeonly of me, but I am appalled that you think it is acceptable to treat XXX like an ordinary footpath, and that you charge people for the privilege of using the ancient pathways that do not belong to you. The owners of XXX are the National Trust, and I shall be sending them a copy of this email.

(For the record it was a wide bridleway and nowhere near 100 riders.)


 
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He won't know what "reciprocate" means.


 
Posted : 31/03/2016 10:10 pm
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Okay then peeps, whats it going to be;

a) Forget about it
b) Send and be damned
3) Send and send to neighbours too
iv)Pop around and have a nice civilised face to face chat, because letters are for wimps

Points of disclosure;

I don't expect any of the above to actually resolve the situation. It's all about the entertainment of STW/satisfaction of not letting an angry little man think he's won now. This may be neither big nor clever, but it may at least make a few people chuckle.
I'm planning to move in the next twelve months, and as I'm currently renting, I don't really need worry about disclosing neighbours from hell...

Okay; vote!


 
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iv) and if he's a twunt [partridge]"let battle commence".[/partridge]


 
Posted : 31/03/2016 10:32 pm
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awesome retort v8ninety.
set webcam up,deliver letter and sit back and watch him loose his shit


 
Posted : 31/03/2016 10:34 pm
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3 & ^web cam


 
Posted : 31/03/2016 10:44 pm
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[i]set webcam up,deliver letter and sit back and watch him lose his shit[/i]

This.


 
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To be honest, I think you need to play up more - probably be insulting in a school playground way. It would seem the least he deserves and most likely more on his level. Something classic like*...

Q. What has five digits and smells like your mum?

A. This! *Wave hand under his nose*

*Probably not recommended really, if he is as unstable as he sounds...

In all honesty, I would leave him well alone and if he is like this again just phone the police. Threatening your family is way, way out of line.


 
Posted : 01/04/2016 3:33 am
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It's too long.

And I'm not sure whether your intention is abject sarcasm or you feel bad, at least from the letter.


 
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Option 5) get a projector and project it through his window so he can read it on the back wall.


 
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Just make sure that you wrap it around a brick and put it through his window.

Why pander to the ****? Escalate the spat to Defcon 1 now.

I'd be out there every 5 minutes locking and unlocking my car. What does the **** do when the sun comes up, have a word with God?


 
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I would take the partridge option.. And video the next encounter for our pleasure...
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Go and see him,take him some chocolate eggs ,apologise for losing control (fair play by the way ) and then quietly tell him if he ever looks at you or your kids again you will kick him in the slats.
Or option 6 - get on to channel 5 for the new series of neighbors from hell.


 
Posted : 01/04/2016 6:36 am
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No one likes having a [b]handshandy[/b] interrupted with flashing lights. Plus, a barking dog is a total [i]mood[/i] killer too. Not a wonder he was cross with you. Forget the letter and the olive branch, what this guy needs is a pair of sunglasses and some earplugs.

edit: turns out you can't say [b]****[/b]. What a weird site this is. Childish bickering is tolerated and/or encouraged but **** is bad??? Changed to something else...


 
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Me, I'd phone the Police and open an investigation, make it sound as bad as possible but within the limitations of what happened. Tell them your kids have been having nightmares about the scary man over the road etc.

either that or I'd pin him against the wall by the throat and tell him i'll kill him if he ever speaks to me again.

Both should work equally well.


 
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Bin the letter.

Torment the dog with a laser pen.

Complain about the constant barking.


 
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Euro - You used to be able to use the colloquial for masturbate willy nilly on this site, but I have a sneaking suspicion that I abused the freedom and thus it got made into a dirty word

FWIW I don't think the OP's letter contains enough swearing..

More seriously, if you really have to respond, perhaps a milder letter sent to the fellow's mother informing her of her naughty boy's behaviour. Add a polite request that she discipline him, and a request that you be allowed to discipline him yourself in the event of a recurrence


 
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My neighbour is 70 and lives with his mum. You simply have no idea of the surreal descent into the twilight zone that you are about to experience once you go in for that cup of tea.Sanity will be but a distant memory for you. I went in some 5 months ago for that cup of tea and have been going in every day since. At the end of this which must come at some point, the mother is 97 in May, then I reckon I'll be needing PTS councelling!

But do I wish I'd not gone in 5 months ago? No way, were all surrounded by lonely people with problems desperate for human contact and company but with no idea how to interact with people. You don't have to live alone to be lonely either, if your neighbours relationship with each other is anything like mine they need other people in their lives.


 
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And I'm not sure whether your intention is abject sarcasm or you feel bad, at least from the letter.
Bit of both, to be honest. It was mainly written as a bit of a distraction from what I really wanted to do which was more along the slats/bombers/slippers school of thought...

And then I posted it up on here so that you lot can have a giggle at my misfortune 8)


 
Posted : 01/04/2016 7:31 am
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Thanks a bunch Yunki you ****** 😀


 
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Weird double post


 
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Thanks a bunch Yunki you ****

Is it Shandyhander?


 
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In my view, I wouldn't give the neighbour the satisfaction of knowing it annoyed you.

I wouldn't respond, but from now I'd make sure to flash my lights, and give him a cheery wave and a smile every time I saw him.

Sure to drive him bat**** crazy.


 
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a nic confrontional option iv), with 'ref cam' style go-pro footage to youtube please. In fact, if you could get hold of a whistle and blow it loudly to stop play everytime he turns a little puce, that could only improve things.


 
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Good letter and well written but.... as others have said, I would go over and say those things to him. I'd start by explaining that I like living in harmony with my neighbours and I'd like to put the record straight about the headlights etc. then explain in very clear language that, in the same way as he loves his doggie, I love my children and will react with the same level of anger if anybody threatens them.

Currently we are dealing with a disgusting level of unresonable and insulting behaviour from my BIL over an inheritance; what's shocking is to see how somebody you previously thought intelligent and just a bit wierd can suddenly turn so unreasonable and viciously insulting.


 
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Wait till darkness falls then it has to be dog shit doorstep,a fresh pile of dog shit wrapped up in newspaper and set alight on his doorstep,run of back home and when he tries to put it out with his slippers flash the car headlights.


 
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I had/have a very similar problem with a neighbour except it was at the end of a share access road and they had just built a glass fronted extension that looked directly onto it. Apparently my driving to the end of this road to allow me to reverse into my drive was upsetting their dog and waking their daughter. The fact that the dog barks whenever it sees anyone anywhere is neither here nor there. I decided that the best thing to do was to ignore them as it really was a problem of their own making. I thought about suggesting curtains but de used not to antagonise things further.

My advice is ignore it and carry on with your life.


 
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Great letter! It only remains for you to soak it in wee and have it sent recorded delivery


 
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Shag his mum.


 
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I have no idea how you have the time to be writing letters, I'd be too busy changing the headlight bulbs and testing their alignment.


 
Posted : 01/04/2016 9:59 am
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Option 5) get a projector and project it through his window so he can read it on the back wall.
winner!


 
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I'd sit inside the house randomly unlocking and relocking the doors from the remote keyfob at random times day and night.


 
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Great letter!

I actually think it might be better to buy a mains powered directional strobe, and set it on timer at random points in the night and make his dog bark.

It'll go down really well with them and their neighbours


 
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Or as an alternative, that no-one could get upset about . . . its never too early to start celebrating christmas.
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Dear V8Nighty.

Firstly let me offer an unreserved apology for my behaviour yesterday, living with mummsie can be a trifle challenging and I can find it quite hard to communicate other adults who aren't still tucked into bed by their Ma-Ma. However that is no excuse.

I'm also very sorry that yesterday was the first time I had left the family home in the last few months and this excess of fresh air caused me to feel slightly dizzy and your assumption that I tried to punch your car was simply an attempt to steady myself lest I fell to the ground.

Regarding the children I do rather think you had the wrong end of the stick, when I said "How would you like me to flash in your kids window?" I obviously meant would you be happy if I conquered my fear of leaving the house, took driving lessons, passed my test and raided dear ma-ma's pension pot to buy and car and then parked it in your back garden and flashed my lights into the darlings windows as they slept.
I fear you somehow felt I meant something altogether more seedy and sinister.

Please feel free to pop by for a nice cup of [s]pee[/s] tea and we can iron out our misunderstandings.

xxxxx

Mental Geof


 
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i think you need suplimentary lighting.

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My vote goes to perchy and his laser pen plan.
You could also shout "[b]BITTY?[/b]" every time you see him with his mum


 
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My neighbour 2 doors down lives with his mum. He didn't always, but he moved back in a little while after his dad died because his mum was badly affected by her husband's death, plus she was getting on a bit and becoming forgetful. She's also at that time in life when her friends started dying, just because of the passage of time really. He thought he could help alleviate her growing sense of loneliness and isolation a bit by moving in and helping out where he could.

I have to admit his thread has made me think though, maybe he's really just some kind of weirdo.


 
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After reading johnners sobering post above, i'm going to plus one the 'shag his mum' post.


 
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or shag his dog?


 
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My neighbour 2 doors down lives with his mum. He didn't always, but he moved back in a little while after his dad died because his mum was badly affected by her husband's death, plus she was getting on a bit and becoming forgetful. She's also at that time in life when her friends started dying, just because of the passage of time really. He thought he could help alleviate her growing sense of loneliness and isolation a bit by moving in and helping out where he could.
Oh bless. What a lovely chap. Does he fill his empty evenings by abusing his neighbours too? 😆


 
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As you're worried about his threats and the safety of your children and property then installing [u]some[/u] really bright pir security lights would be common sense


 
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After reading johnners sobering post above, i'm going to plus one the 'shag his mum' post

That's the spirit!


 
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UPDATE;

I popped the letter through his box.

Couple of days later, in a conversation with a not bonkers neighbour, it transpires that his mother may actually be his wife. Ahh, Errrr... Oh well. She must have had a long paper round. I'm still not 100% convinced, and he's still an unstable nobber. 😯 😯


 
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Just smack him in gob, it works wonders for those type of people.


 
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Double post


 
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t his mother may actually be his wife.
😆


 
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