[Closed] A serious question for ernie lynch.

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Ernie I think I understand where you're coming from, as "Silence is argument carried out by other means." apparantly.. 😐

Simonfbarnes, is KINGTUT your gaffer ?

I don't think Simon is Polish, so it's unlikely.

It's all become clear now not that I bothered following it after the about the 6th post.

Thank you to all involved, now Ton & Ernie need to have a manly cuddle, there's obviously some underlying attraction between the both of you so the sooner you consomethinge it the better, the sexual tension is starting to have a ripple effect though the whole well being of the forum.

Ton & Ernie need to have a manly cuddle

no tongues!

ernie, seriously show me a post where i have been rascist or where i have attacked you, either as ton or bombadillo.
please.

Ton gets unjustly banned...

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ton - Member

[i]simonfbarnes - Member
Why is it always foreigners bothering Ton ? Where are all the Scousers ? [/i]

maybe i am a fat racist simon????????[/url]

Worries the forum can't live without him....

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bombadillo - Member
to be honest, i think ernie and a few others on here are just has bad as fred or other banned people are.
they just seem to word their insults/accusations/lies better, rather than telling it like it is.

Posted 4 days ago[/url]

Makes sure we don't miss the sparkling razor wit...

[url= http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/lefty-hooligans#post-786437 ]bombadillo - Member
TandemJeremy
you seem to come over as a pretty foul man too. terrible attitude.

Posted 3 days ago[/url]

and then comes back onto this beauty of a thread.

Take a deep breath and wind yer neck in, you're usually quite good value when you aren't doing the whole "no offence like mate" schtick. 🙂

i have just gone through every post that bombadillo was mentioned in, every single one.
not once did i make a nasty, threatening or rascist comment.
just make sure to check ernie or simon.
i was however called nasty names by ernie, simon, barnsleytmitch, junkyard (who will get a clipped ear on sundasy for it) and quite a few others. but life is such 8)

bd, read the above, and the whole of the other threads.
and show me where i posted a nasty or racist comment to anyone.

and i asked barnes if it was because i was a fat racist, because he had accused me of these things in the past.

and to finnish, i think ernie knew it was me posting as bombadillo right from the start.
i got 3 pm's within 10 min of my 1st post and all from people who are not as sharp as ernie..... 😉

I must admit I thought Tony and I had agreed when I was in his van to rip the piss out of each other on here for maximum comedy effect but he seems to have backed out without telling me 🙂 Or perhaps I imagined it. Sorry Tony, I've stopped. For the record I think you're a very kind bloke and had I believed you were being offended I wouldn't have said those things - but even when you protested I assumed it was part of the joke. In fact, for all I know it still may be.

ton - the bit where you say oriental types could be construed as racist.

simon, i honestly can't remember the conversation.
all i know is i went out of my way for you, it is the kind of thing i do.
and since that day all i have got from you is stick about my size and intelligence...but like i said, you live and learn.

solman, it was not meant has a rasict remark, and if it was i apologise to anyone offended, and i was banned for it.

simonfbarnes - Member

I must admit I thought Tony and I had agreed when I was in his van to rip the piss out of each other on here for maximum comedy effect but he seems to have backed out without telling me Or perhaps I imagined it. Sorry Tony, I've stopped. For the record I think you're a very kind bloke and had I believed you were being offended I wouldn't have said those things - but even when you protested I assumed it was part of the joke. In fact, for all I know it still may be.

You agreed it in a van, is PM'ing not good enough? And you had a agreed game plan of abusing each other in your ding dongs, is that not Münchhausen trolling syndrome by proxy. 😕

dobbo, stop using big words....... 😉

Is it not big and not clever? I'm saying nothing. 😆

ton - I don't think you're racist, just pointing out that that line could have been "construed" as racist. You got banned for it so the point is made there too.

This forum is weird btw.

Maybe when you [i]know[/i] you're right you don't have to explain yourself. 8)

enfht, i am always wrong then....... 😳

is that not Münchhausen trolling syndrome by proxy

even more so as apparently I imagined the whole conversation, and pore ole Tony has had to submit to a torrent of largely undeserved insults all unwitting. He didn't realise that I only insult my friends...

That van ride seems to have caused more problems than it solved.

Gosh ton, I can't believe that you appear to be determined to keep this ridiculous thread going 😯

i was however called nasty names by ernie, simon, barnsleytmitch, junkyard and quite a few others

Yes mate, bombadillo got some stick ...... he was saying some fairly nasty stuff.

But what's all this nonsense "I'm just a hard done-by victim"...eh ?

And whilst I have never joined in the "poking fun at fatty" I do recall a very self-deprecating ton encouraging people to do just that .... something about "well if you can't laugh at yourself ....[i]blah, blah, blah[/i]"

If after all that it appears to be a big problem for you, coupled with this absurd persecution complex that everyone claims you're thick (which clearly they don't) then I would suggest you've got some issues mate.

Presumably you saw your banning as an irresistible opportunity to return incognito and wreak revenge on your fantasy tormentors.

Maybe ton, you need to stop blaming others for your probable low self-esteem, and recognise that the responsibility lies with you. Good luck 8)

Yes mate, bombadillo got some stick ...... he was saying some fairly nasty stuff.

ernie, where, post it, you are doing the politician bit again.
show me and the forun where i posted some nasty stuff.

and stop trying to confuse me with big fancy word play. 😉

I wouldn't take accusations of thickness too seriously, people are always saying I am too 🙂

[i]stop trying to confuse me with big fancy word play[/i]

You are arguing with ernie, who is one of the smartest people on here. You are pretending that you don't understand his points. In a minute, someone is going to call you stupid. You're going to whine about the injustice of it all. 🙂

what's the correct collective noun for several tragic phuckers?

bd, not arguing, just asking for proof that i said nasty things about him, and that i said nasty racist things.
read the posts, you will find i did neither.

what's the correct collective noun for several tragic phuckers?

simonfbarnes - Member

I wouldn't take accusations of thickness too seriously

Don't listen to him ton.

I reckon anyone who responds to a 5 day ban by registering under a new name, then proceeds to wind people up, start inane threads, act like a troll, and generally draws as much attention to themselves as possible, and then tries to justify it all by claiming "I only did it because was serving a ban"........anyone who does all that, is indeed as thick as two short planks.

Or do you believe that you will get special dispensation because you're a little bit simple ?

Can someone post up the "fairly nasty stuff" that ton posted? I skimmed the threads that BD provided and missed the "fairly nasty stuff".

Thank you.

Can nobody post anything to this tedious thread. It's an abridgement to my happiness.

I now almost never look at the bike/chat forum, quite simply because topics just drop off the page too quickly - often in a matter of minutes, which can make following a thread quite difficult. Shame really,

Runs and hides ➡

ernie, indeed i am thick, but you are doing the politician bit again......
post the nasty comments and racist remarks.
STOP EVADING THE QUESTION.

Yeah I know that neverfastenuff. But you might be surprised to learn that I quite often like to follow threads which I don't contribute to.

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ernie, indeed i am thick

Yep, I would have thought by now, it was fairly obvious that I can't be bothered in having an argument with you about what is, and what isn't, a racist comment etc.

Maybe you can ask Barnselymitch why he said to you [i]"Back under your rock you nazi c*ckmonkey"[/i] ?
........perhaps he's up for argument with you about what is, and what isn't, a racist comment 💡

poiticians answer again ernie.
you accused me of making nasty comments to you and of racist remarks.
please post them on here so we all can see them.
or can't you find them.

pm me an apology if you want, so not to be shown up on here.

STOP EVADING THE QUESTION

that's his best move 🙂

It's an abridgement to my happiness.

it may have escaped your notice but you're not actually obliged to read every thread...

But you might be surprised to learn that I quite often like to follow threads which I don't contribute to.

right click the topic link and add to your favourites - thats what I do short term.

You are arguing with ernie, who is one of the smartest people on here

So if the rest of us were a bit brighter would we also have marxist terrorists as heroes?

Come on Ernie, you called Ton a racist but won't substantiate your claim!

At last enfht, something which we might actually agree on - I am most clearly [i]not[/i] "one of the smartest people on here". There are plenty of people on here who are indisputably 'smarter' than me. The best I can hope to claim, is that I am probably about average (although on complicated abstract stuff like maths, probably a bit below average)

I actually found BigDummy's comment slightly insulting, as I consider it undermines my posts. There is after all,
a difference between between being 'clever' and being 'correct'. I know which one I prefer to be.

In your case enfht, I think you are probably a bit thick......but I'm sure you know the answer to that better than I do.

There is after all, a difference between between being 'clever' and being 'correct'. I know which one I prefer to be.

Once you have responded to Ton's request above we can all make up our own minds. You have made unsubstantiated assertions from what I can gather and you have refused to provide evidence.

Maybe you can ask Barnselymitch why he said to you "Back under your rock you nazi c*ckmonkey" ?

This is not evidence in itself. Are you happy that this provides sufficient proof?

There is after all,
a difference between between being 'clever' and being 'correct'.

yes, intelligence can be roughly measured, whereas opinions of correctness are wildy divergent!

In your case enfht, I think you are probably a bit thick

you seem very free with this judgement on people, particularly when it's not strictly relevant - is there any evidence that clever people are any more consistently right than normal or dim ones ? They might actually be more prone to flights of delusional fanatsy or idealism...

Once you have responded to Ton's request above we can all make up our own minds. You have made unsubstantiated assertions .....

Surely the fact that I have made "unsubstantiated assertions" as you claim, is sufficient for you to "make up your mind" ? 😕

I think you might have missed the point surfer. It is whether [i]I[/i] consider I am right which decides whether I am content or not, not what [i]you[/i] think. I am perfectly happy with the thought of you thinking that I am talking bollox
......why should it be a problem for me ?

is there any evidence that clever people are any more consistently right than normal or dim ones ?

No.

Well not concerning the things which tend to matter to me anyway.

you seem very free with this judgement

I'm fairly sure enfht was passing judgement on my intelligence - I simply returned the favour. The only difference is that I said I wasn't sure..........furthermore, I don't really care 🙂

You guys are fantastic.

When are you on Question Time?

Surely the fact that I have made "unsubstantiated assertions" as you claim, is sufficient for you to "make up your mind" ?

I think you might have missed the point surfer. It is whether I consider I am right which decides whether I am content or not, not what you think. I am perfectly happy with the thought of you thinking that I am talking bollox
......why should it be a problem for me ?

Not really, they may become substantiated and then my opinion may change.
There are several points however you seem to manipulate arguments simply due to the fact that you post often volumous responses with regularity. It reminds me of the Woody allen (sp?) quote, and I paraphrase, 90% of success is turning up! its a quote I use occasionally when I pick up prizes, although not as often as I would like!
A point that many consider important is the assertions you made earlier and whilst i enjoy your posts and often agree with them you do go to far and then ignore/refuse to substantiate what are occasonally spurious accusations.
To get back to the "point" do you have evidence or are you just waiting for everybody to get fed up and then you can move on?

Ernie when you disagree with people you feel it's your right to insult them. RudeBoy was the same and we all know where that got him. Do you really want to end up naked, drunk and making a twit of yourself infront of your peers?! 😆

Is it any coincidence you being both blinkered AND a marxist?!?

To get back to the "point" do you have evidence....

Well let me try to help you with that one. According to you I haven't. So perhaps you can come to the conclusion that I am talking bollox and bombadillo did not make a single racist comment ?

How's that ? Does it help ?

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RudeBoy was the same and we all know where that got him.

Yeah, he got banned. Are you worried that I might get banned then ?

I assume you feel that the term "racist" is highly derogatory, no?

If you can't substantiate your claim that Ton is racist then given the gravity of the accusation you could indeed qualify for a ban imo

But hey don't worry Ernie, you won't be subject to a kangaroo court and summary execution even if that's how your idol dealt with things "back in the day". 8)

To get back to the "point" do you have evidence....

Well let me try to help you with that one. According to you I haven't. So perhaps you can come to the conclusion that I am talking bollox and bombadillo did not make a single racist comment ?

I think your clear inability to substantiate your assertions and your subsequent attempts to obscure the "point" would lead many (including myself) to conclude you have no evidence. I think the appropriate action is for you to apologise.

I think the appropriate action is for you to apologise.

LOL ! Thanks for the advise .... it genuinely made me laugh out loud ! But no, I won't be doing that 😀

BTW surfer just out of interest, since bombadillo said, and I quote :

[i]"i was however called nasty names by ernie, simon, barnsleytmitch, junkyard and quite a few others."[/i]

Do you think there should be a long queue of people waiting to "apologise" to bombadillo ? 😀

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BTW surfer just out of interest, since bombadillo said, and I quote :

"i was however called nasty names by ernie, simon, barnsleytmitch, junkyard and quite a few others."

Do you think there should be a long queue of people waiting to "apologise" to bombadillo ?

Obfuscation, we have come to expect nothing less.

Glad I cheered you up.

Sorry, wrong thread!

So perhaps you can come to the conclusion that I am talking bollox and bombadillo did not make a single racist comment

I suppose it all depends on whether you choose to use the "Clapham omnibus" definition of racist comment, or your own special definition of racist comment - ie. anything that ernie_lynch disagrees with...

Given ernie's recent performance, I'm wondering if he now has a selection of "boo" words/phrases that he thinks will negate any argument or discussion from someone who disagrees with him on any subject
"Right wing nutter"
"Racist"
"Fascist"

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Do you think there should be a long queue of people waiting to "apologise" to bombadillo ?

well I did, for my unkind fattist remarks, which I hadn't realised he was taking to heart. However, on the racism front the situation is less clear - certainly ton has posted several threads complaining about foreigners pestering him at work or taking phone centre calls, but perhaps it's some lesser form of grumpy xenophobia ?

FFS. This has to be the saddest thread ever produced here.

Good Lord, what a depressing thread 🙁

boring.

However, on the racism front the situation is less clear - certainly ton has posted ......

I said to you before SFB, when you said ton, quote : [i]"makes me wince with his undercurrent of racism"[/i]

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ernie_lynch - Member

Well I don't detect any 'undercurrent of racism', and I have a fairly low tolerance threshold when it comes to racism.

What I do detect, is someone refuses to comply with political correctness requirements, something which I share a lot of sympathy with. He does like to wind up, in his subtle sort of way, the Guardian reading PC brigade.

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I could be wrong, but I have never noticed ton being racist on here. bombadillo on the other hand, did make some very dodgy comments. To the point where Barnsleytmitch called him a nazi c*ckmonkey 😐

Kit:

Good Lord, what a depressing thread

MrNutt:

boring.

+1

ernie_lynch - Member

At last enfht, something which we might actually agree on - I am most clearly not "one of the smartest people on here". There are plenty of people on here who are indisputably 'smarter' than me.

Got to agree with you on that one. 😆

To the point where Barnsleytmitch called him a nazi c*ckmonkey

You have mentioned this several times, regardless of Barnsleymitch where is [u]your[/u] evidence. The site records all the posts for whatever period, surely if it exists you can find it?
My last post on the matter.

I've stayed out of this thread, on account of the fact that I don't know any of you as I'm not a stw regular poster really. But, reading through this and looking at bombadillo's previous posts, I've got to say it all seems somewhat overblown for a 4 page thread.

Oh, and additionally: "To the point where Barnsleytmitch called him a nazi c*ckmonkey" doesn't make him any more of a racist than if I called you a unicycle riding juggler makes you a unicycle riding juggler. In fact, maybe someone can quote me and then it'll be regarded as fact?

we have it on record that ernie is considered to be a unicycle juggler.

In that case, I stand corrected.

I agree with the boring depressing etc quotes btw. I said myself yesterday :

ernie_lynch - Member

Gosh ton, I can't believe that you appear to be determined to keep this ridiculous thread going

For whatever reason, some people don't seem to want to let this thread die. Since the thread's 'subject matter' is nominally me, I feel a vague responsibility to respond, even though it should be clear by now that I'm not really interested in arguing the toss...

did make some very dodgy comments. To the point where Barnsleytmitch called him a nazi c*ckmonkey

Read the thread in question. No comments were made by Tony which justified the "nazi c*ckmonkey" insult, and by continually dragging this issue out (and refusing to honour Tony's request of proof of his racism) you're proving yourself to be a nasty, vindictive wee fanny who clearly has precious little else in his life to satisfy him outwith of getting involved in arguments/discussions on here.

ernie_lynch is nazi c*ckmonkey.

Move along, there's nothing to see....

ernie_lynch is racist I know that for a fact because Dobbo called him a nazi c*ckmonkey.

That's the way it works then?

I blame Che

one might speculate whether a nazi c*ckmonkey would be able to juggle unicycles?

That's the way it works then?

I have already said, if you feel the lack of evidence proves that bombadillo did not post any dodgy stuff, then despite the fact that [i]"ernie, simon, barnsleytmitch, junkyard and quite a few others"[/i] perhaps thought different, then you are free to come to your own conclusions.

I have already said that imo, ton has never been noticeably racist - I first made that comment 4 days ago. The bombadillo persona was imo different. How difficult is that to understand ?

Please, please stop now everyone.

Please.

if you feel the lack of evidence proves that bombadillo did not post any dodgy stuff

😆 Hahahahahahahaha! Out ****ing Standing

[b]*Best Post Ever!*[/b]

It's a bit odd that anyone (myself included) would devote any of their life to reading a four page post where a (apparent) stranger asked whether or not another forum user ever posted/contributed to cycling topics; much less waste further time bombarding the guy with 'hilarious' left wing images, or generally ganging up on him.

Ride your bikes saddos!

Ride your bikes saddos!

this is what we do in between

Hahahahahahahaha! Out ****ing Standing

Yes it's hilarious Ratty, isn't it ............ that I can't be bothered to argue the toss.

Still don't let that bother you ..... keep impressing me with your posts.

You seem to be posting a fair bit for someone who "can't be bothered to argue the toss." 😆