[Closed] 5G - can some please descredit this..

Tin foil is more effective at blocking higher frequencies

It recommends using some sort of crystal as protection against the RF. That tells me everything I need to know. Unless you live on top of the transmitter mast you’ve not got too much to worry about....

In case you're wondering. The world isn't flat.

Where is it on the scale??

Did you know that using a "Hands Free" mic and headset cord on your cell phone acts as an aerial, and as it's normally in your trouser pocket it's microwaving your balls!!!

I do have some patent protection foil available that is way better than tin foil, I also have something for the mental stress

5G uses spectrum that's either already in use by mobile operators, or repurposed from expired MoD systems.

But you've been irradiated by it for a considerable time already, so if you haven't grown two heads by now it's probably not going to happen.

The problem with science is that you can usually find scientists on both sides of an argument which isn't a bad thing really.   All of the links in that article (those that aren't broken) appear to land on sites that you have never heard of before and that are full of other scaremongering stuff.  At this point unless you actually understand the science then you might be better backing out slowly and heading to sites you trust

In comparison, if you look at something like the safe levels of radiation for X-rays, you find that the initial safe doses were in fact too high and over the years we have reduced the levels as we have understood the effects better and been able to image better.  These reductions were driven by science though and not by scaremongering websites.  I'm comfortable with science being able to set the levels here.  Add in the fact that although the number of base stations go up the power transmitted per station goes down and it is spread over a much wider bandwidth.   You probably get more radiation from your phone being next to your ear when you are talking than you do from receiving a signal from a lampost down the street

Total rubbish, I’ve spent my entire working life around various forms of RF generator, be it MW class transformers and rectifiers with all their harmonics in EM fields that stop wind up watches to testing and maintaining various PMR and cellular systems.  Far closer than members of the public, I’ve neither grown an extra eye or developed massive rage issues that result in me tearing up Harlem.

I’m more worried about that unshielded fusion reactor 93 million miles away, the PCB’s I’ve been exposed to working in old transformers and all the asbestos I’ve worked around.

if you haven’t grown two heads by now it’s probably not going to happen.

Way to crush a mans dreams

More seriously. What is it that scares you?

I’m intrigued at the moment by the mentality that hooks otherwise intelligent people into the conspiracy and junk science downward spiral.

To be completely honest I knew the article was from tenuous sources and really only bothered to read a third of it.

However there is an article in todays observer which throws up some interesting questions about 5g and it's security implications which is a separate subject BUT also refers to some of the issues raised in the linked article above and I idly wondered if perhaps it wasn't All tinfoil hat stuff

 I idly wondered if perhaps it wasn’t All tinfoil hat stuff

Of course it isn't, there are always worries about radiation and stuff we don't fully understand but only have empirical evidence on.   The trick is to bundle it all up together so the true stuff starts to give weight to the fake stuff

I should imagine Eluxe magazine is a reputable source of information on such issues.

I idly wondered if perhaps it wasn’t All tinfoil hat stuff

Cos it’s scaring the hell out of me

Uh-huh... 😉

Did you not see the picture on it? 5G causes apocalyptic nazi-ness! (on PC and Xbox360)

Luckily, I was able to comfort myself by looking at Eluxe magazines '10 Sexiest Vegans'.

The question "Why 5G?" - not "what is 5G?" - 5G is an umbrella terms for a series of different RF technologies that already exist. New Scientist Magazine has a good balanced article on the 5G network and their main question is whether they will get people to actually buy a device which may only be compatible with your regions version of 5G, since the tech allows for such a huge range of RF to be used - that and the fact you will grown an extra ear.

I'm still worrying about acid rain.

Theres a guy on here that hands out free tinfoil if you knock on his door, you might have to put up with being followed to see what you do with it though.

It's bobbins. There, discredited for you.

The world - nay, the universe - is full of EM radiation. "Radiation" is a scary word (like "chemicals") but only a small part of that spectrum is actually dangerous. Radio signals and sunlight are forms of EM radiation, no-one ever died from having lightbulbs in their house.

no-one ever died from having lightbulbs in their house.

This guy came fairly close.

no-one ever died from having lightbulbs in their house.

Claude François did.

No one tell any of the geniuses commenting on that piece that sunlight contains "radio frequencies" a lot higher than 5G.

Honestly its just hokum. Conflating a load of terms like "microwaves": "OMG you can can cook a chicken with microwaves imagine what it would do to a baby's face"

Well you can take down a missile with "infra red" I wouldn't try it with my TV remote though

The truth is out there...

The problem with science is that you can usually find scientists on both sides of an argument which isn’t a bad thing really.

Generally you get science presenting positions and debating, testing and checking it to form a conclusion. What you get after that is non scientists picking up on research that might show something different and championing it as science into a battle of ideas - this is the bad thing.

Then somebody with zero knowledge or experience who has done nothing bar read a bit on the internet go "I'm sceptical of that" as if we should then re-evaluate everything else

"[i]If we could see the RFR, it would look like a smog that’s everywhere, all the time."[/i]

Imagine that! Imagine if we could see all smells too... Now I'm scared.

This is the thread you need, DezB. High probability of visible shart cloud

https://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/more-violent-guffs-wafting-your-way/

Somewhat ironically, I can't [i]see[/i] what howsyourdad1 posted on that thread 😀

Imagine that! Imagine if we could see all smells too… Now I’m scared.

Like dogs?

I’ve heard that dogs can see their own farts.

It's complete rubbish. There you go; discredited

I have a PhD in RF communications on the human body and spent a good number of years designing bodyworn communication systems at all sorts of frequencies from HF to terahertz.

You are more likely to die from the stress worrying about the effects of 5G than from the effects of 5G.

spent a good number of years designing bodyworn communication systems at all sorts of frequencies from HF to terahertz.

You're nothing but a terrorist!

Worrying about it is a symptom you have already received a lethal dose of 5G.

I don’t think the OP has too much to worry about, there are still many parts of the UK with barely any 3G coverage, let alone 4G, (and that’s not just remote countryside), so, considering how many transmitters will be needed just for urban coverage, let alone rural, reckon on somewhere around 2030-40 before there’s meaningful coverage.

For a start the first claim that IOT requires 5G is a lie as most IOT devices have low data requirements, what is frequently more important for them is low power consumption, plus they will probably run in WiFi.

The article goes down hill with more and more false statements.bits like a Brexit leaflet. 😉

Worrying about it is a symptom you have already received a lethal dose of 5G.

Sounds like the kind of thing Cave Johnson would say.

Can we just point out where the OP's article comes from:

Not exactly Wired is it?

Edit: and this is the blurb from their "About Us" page:

Eluxe Magazine is the world’s first ever publication fully dedicated to sustainable luxury.

We’re a quarterly published paper magazine and a daily updated digital publication based in London, dedicated to showcasing luxury brands that demonstrate a strong commitment to good ethics and environmental sustainability.

I'll take my science and technology news from a more reputable source thank you......like Gwyneth Paltrow