[Closed] 4 out 5 new jobs in London....

Good, then when the olds all die off round here it will be lovely and quiet with empty roads and lots of cheap houses.

Probably because local employers don't have well paid jobs for intelligent and driven individuals. It's always been like this so long as I can remember.

Not one government over the last 30 years has done anything effective to decentralise the draw of London. Seems daft that we all have to spend hours travelling into and expensive and chested city when the quality of our work and our lives could be so easily improved.

All the oldies seem to end up in the SE:

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Suits me fine - nothing worse than having to share the market with people who are younger, cheaper, better looking, brighter, keener and more talented than you. The more bright young things that up and leave town the easier it is for us dull old duffers to keep food on the table 🙂

The more bright young things that up and leave town the easier it is for us dull old duffers to keep food on the table

I like your thinking (as an old duffer myself).

Might it eventually start to change as more and more of what we do is all computery and all that? Maybe not, perhaps it would have happened already. Why does flashy have to keep flying to posh places to discuss paper clips in this modern age, for want of a better example 🙂

Why does flashy have to keep flying to posh places to discuss paper clips in this modern age, for want of a better example

He's not really a paper clip salesman, he works for MI6, although we're not supposed to know that...

he works for MI6,

I thought it was MFI

Ah I see. I was fooled, so I guess his cover was working.

Flashy closing a deal on 2000 red paper clips and 600 post-it notes:

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Terrible fashion sense mind.....

Terrible fashion sense mind.....

You should see him when he gets dressed up

G-string, suspender belt and North Face Sports bag is standard mission attire.....

So, who's the one person who left London to go to Mansfield?

APF

General 🙂 at the above. Especially Pinky!

I wish I could pick my job up and do it somewhere northern and scenic rather than London. Unfortunately that's not the case.

Keeps the North, Wales and Scotland quieter, so fine by me.

I wish I could pick my job up and do it somewhere northern and scenic rather than London. Unfortunately that's not the case.

+1. and that's why so many of us who grew up 'oos of miles from London end up spending 10 - 35 years here. Before hopefully getting out before its too late and returning or going to somewhere decent, greener, cheaper, friendlier etc. less than 5 years to go for me hopefully..... 😆

Loads of my school mates and a couple of ex's etc have moved down to London since graduating (many still being funded by their parents)

They have nice jobs..... (supposedly)

but ,,, they can't afford to go for more than one beer at a time, if they do it involves half an hour commuting.

They all have huge commutes to work and yet still pay £600pcm rent

(I pay £325 a month mortgage), which leads me on to my next thing, they will never be able to buy property, or even run a car in London.

They can't jump on a mountain bike and be in the middle of no where within 3 minutes.

I think I'll stay up north thank you very much!!

I don't believe a word of it! If it's true, then how come there are no chippy shell-suited scousers, or cheeky Ant and Dec-o-like Geordie scamps on Eastenders then? Just Danny Dyer calling people slaaaaaaags, some blokes with King Edwards for heads and various hatchet faced trolls!

There's loads of young people up here, being as annoyingly fresh faced and optimistic as ever. The bastards! Disturbing my world weary cynicism! How dare they?! And there's been a massive influx of London media bell ends too! I wish they'd all bugger off back there in there skinny jeans and bloody boating shoes!

Was it not ever thus?

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It's coz London is the awsomz.

neilco - Member

It's coz London is the awsomz.

Popped down for a meeting today and all the blokes looked like this:

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Way too much faffing and preening!

All the oldies seem to end up in the SE:

Where in that info graphic does it mention age?

They have nice jobs..... (supposedly)

but ,,, they can't afford to go for more than one beer at a time, if they do it involves half an hour commuting.

LOL! Were you leaning on a farm gate chewing a blade of grass while you cogitated that gem. 🙄

Is this a surprise to anyone? I've worked in a variety of London design studios over the last twenty years and you'd be hard pushed to find more than around 5% of staff that grew up anywhere near London. Typically people born overseas would largely outnumber the locals.

Where in that info graphic does it mention age?

In the accompanying article it mentions:

They don't always stay in the capital. Alexandra Jones, chief executive of the thinktank Centre for Cities, says that in their 30s many of those attracted by the bright lights of the capital tire of London and move out when they want to start families.

Hang on, never migration to London, who were the net 2 - 1,998 people who decided London was so bad they would move to Coventry and Mansfield!!!

Hang on, never migration to London, who were the net 2 - 1,998 people who decided London was so bad they would move to Coventry and Mansfield!!!

Or Crawley, Reading or Aldershot?

djglover - Member
Hang on, never migration to London, who were the net 2 - 1,998 people who decided London was so bad they would move to Coventry and Mansfield!!!

They sold a bedsit and used the proceeds to buy half a town!!

FWIW I have a reasonable household income, and lucked out on a housing association property which means that I have a pretty good quality of life (sometimes I can buy two beers in one evening!), including a fairly puny half hour commute (by bike).

However, as the article says, I am approaching my 30s rather rapidly, I am growing tired of it, and I'd like to move out in the not [i]too[/i] distant future. The trouble is finding a job for myself and my other half somewhere else.

I wish I could jump on my bike and get to great riding from my doorstep. The best I've got is Richmond Park on the road bike (6 miles across the river, so could be worse), or Swinley forest on the MTB (6 miles to Richmond and then 40 mins on the train, so could be better).

I grew up in Hertfordshire (so not that far from here), but went to uni in Lancaster. That proximity to the Lake District spoiled me, and I've missed it ever since moving back down here.

I feel I must take some of the blame for this London migration; 20-somethings are just drawn towards my rampant manliness.

prettymuch exactly the same as soundninja, except grew up in bedfordshire, went to Uni in aberystwyth and now have 2 kids,
finding new jobs(in or careers) for wife and I outside of london is a massive ballache

finding new jobs(in or careers) for wife and I outside of london is a massive ballache

Yep. Longing to leave for the mountains but I've been looking for work tonight and the stats seem to ring true.

In my line of work, there's the odd contract or two going in Edinburgh or Cardiff, a handful more in Bristol or Brum and then HUNDREDS in London.

There's a country outside London and the home counties? I imagine it must be frightful.

In the linked recruitment email that I get sent every week there's typically 9 jobs in London and 1 somewhere else in the country. Occasionally all the jobs will be in London but I don't ever recall seeing more than 1 job outside of London.

Two former colleagues started a new company in Manchester because they were fed up living in London and wanted to move back to where they considered home to be. It sort of worked out as the company is doing very well but they are in London a couple of times a week for client meetings. So although they are making it work for them it's not really how they had planned it.

Grum, don't be scared of the country outside london .
Be scared of the people who live there. 😀

LoL re the Telford migration. Is that really the live in Telford or more Shropshire and Telford was the nearest big train station.

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I do like the Mash....

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Mate works for a company that had to relocate to London because that's where the talent is apparently. Ratio of people who moved to London to work there- 100%. Percentage of their work that requires them to be in London- 0%.

This is bad on so many levels. What happens when to all the people who get left outside of London? You end up with ghetto towns full of people on benefit. Then all the people in London have to pay their benefit payments through increased taxes. Meanwhile houseprices in London skyrocket. Wages are forced up even more. London becomes globablly uncompetitive. The whole thing falls to bits.

I think they need to sort the transport links out to solve the problem. Try and get a train from anywhere to London - easy. Try to get a train from A to somewhere that isn't London and it takes forever! Same goes for flights to anywhere else in Europe/the world - you have to go to London. Until they reconnect the midlands/North to the rest of the England then I see it only getting worse. Everyone is in London because it takes sooo long to get anywhere else!

What happens when to all the people who get left outside of London?

I'm not sure anyone in London cares.....

And on a long term point, talking to colleagues in climate change and in flood risk we really need to be looking at alternatives to London. In a few years (no one is giving figures yet) river taxis may be the norm! Only last night I caught the end of a discussion on the radio where they were touting Manchester as the next capital city.

Personally though I don't think we will see a major shift like this until the insurance companies take things more seriously.

At some point the Thames barrier has got to start getting swamped.....

I grew up inside the M25, then got the hell away from there when I got a job, live in a rural place now. But hate that jobs in future may drag me back that way. Were it not for the wives family an her not wanting to live more than an hour away from them I'd be heading to somewhere nearer hills and the sea I think.

Ummmh Chatham surprises me

I travel around the country a bit for my job (generally out of the office 1 or 2 days a week as a rule), so it's useful to be near all the mainline stations. My day to day office work could be done from anywhere though.