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So is Farmer John's purpose in life to enter threads in which the government is looking bad, and tell enormous lies? Everyone's got to have a hobby I guess.
See, there seems to be a conflict between Farmer John's post and the text of the letter as released by the Telegraph...
[url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/9165090/Ministers-plan-major-immigration-crackdown.html ]She tells Mr Clegg: "In particular I propose a minimum income threshold of £25,700 for a British citizen or person settled in the UK to sponsor the settlement of a spouse or partner of non-EEA [European Economic Area] nationality."
For a partner with one child, the income threshold would rise to £37,000 a year, for two to £49,300 and for three children it would hit £62,600 according to the letter.[/url]
[quote=Lifer]Bye now.
Maybe, or maybe not.. the Sunday Times reports the other interpretation and, in fact, the Telegraph contradicts itself in [url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/9322259/Government-to-launch-new-crackdown-on-foreign-prisoners.html ]another article[/url]:
Mrs May is also set to introduce a new “financial independence” rule next month that will oblige anyone wanting to bring a spouse from overseas to the UK to have a minimum salary of £18,600. This threshold rises if the couple have offspring, with someone applying to bring three children into the UK obliged to have an annual income of £27,200.
[quote=vinnyeh]See, there seems to be a conflict between Farmer John's post and the text of the letter as released by the Telegraph...
The quote which you quoted is only half-quoting a quote.. the second sentence appears to just be interpretation..
Zokes - are you saying there is no nasty racist undercurrent in Aus - what with racists being elected and riots and so on?
Guess we're all as clear as mud on this one then - but it is clear that the way it's been reported doesn't clearly delineate between "fact" and interpretation of how the policy will actually be implemented.
The quote which you quoted is only half-quoting a quote.. the second sentence appears to just be interpretation..
mm, fair point, so we'll use the actual quote:
In particular I propose a minimum income threshold of £25,700 for a British citizen or person settled in the UK to sponsor the settlement of a spouse or partner of non-EEA [European Economic Area] nationality
There'd be no point in permitting a lower base income for family units with children, would there, and I can't see how spousal income could be taken into account since the spouse in the majority of cases presumably won't have a job in this country due to not being in this country
I suspect though, that in light of recent events that any ambiguities in the policy will only be resolved when public reaction has been gauged.
Whichever way it gets cut though, the Tories are facing an impossible task to limit immigration to their pledged levels without finding a way to control EU immigration, unless t
Even allowing for the op's youth, his comments suggest this policy can already be considered a success.
Well done May.
Zokes - are you saying there is no nasty racist undercurrent in Aus - what with racists being elected and riots and so on?
Certainly no more than the uk or elsewhere, which seemed to be what you're implying. But just like your comment on the other thread about nz: should I assume that you know more about a country 12,000 km away than someone who actually lives there?
We're all entitled to our opinions, perhaps it's just better if the nastier ones were kept to ourselves, eh? Boot on the other foot 'n' all....
Rochdale is full of UK born people who will never work and are a massive drain however down the road in Oldham there are people marrying out of the UK, bringing over wives, relatives etc which is just as bad. What should we do about either? Nothing. On the former theres a proposed two strikes and you are out on benefits to with the TUC retorted 'its slave labour' FFS.
A generalisation however should we do nothing?
Difficult but people like the OP will always (sadly) get caught up. My partner is a second generation herself.
Tbh i grew up thinking i was going to move to nz
Then i went to nz for 6 months and toured by bike round most of it Holiday destination not somewhere i want to live its nice but it has its draw backs.
Likewise with auz - and auz is bloody expensive to boot.
The only place ive been so far that ive thought i could live here was california
The media has alot to answer for in forming peoples aspirations in where to live. .i travel alot and ill tell you the uk doesnt have it so bad.
Well, you don't seem to like this country very much so why would you want to bring her here?
I appreciate the frustration, but we're only going down the same path as Australia, Canada and pretty much everywhere else that people actually want to move to.
I think we could free up a fair bit of room by permanently exiling the entire readership of the Guardian and the Daily Mail. Imagine how much less bitching and whining there would be.
Well, you don't seem to like this country very much so why would you want to bring her here?
+1 you are young as well. Get out, live your life make the most of it. When I graduated I went to London. I wish we had tried Canada first 🙁
I think we could free up a fair bit of room by permanently exiling the entire readership of the Guardian and the Daily Mail. Imagine how much less bitching and whining there would be.
Should be easy with the daily mail, just a big headline saying weekly bin collection this way all the way to the docks.
As for the Gaurdian readers, hard to get enough left turns in a row....
As for the Gaurdian readers, hard to get enough left turns in a row....
Guess, we're stuck with the Tories as well then - all those u-turns just add up to going round in circles
Guess, we're stuck with the Tories as well then - all those u-turns just add up to going round in circles
I think U turns are fairly equal half start right half start left....
The media has alot to answer for in forming peoples aspirations in where to live. .i travel alot and ill tell you the uk doesnt have it so bad.
You're not wrong there; I've lived all over the place and in my opinion the UK is the best place on earth to live.
Edit I guess I should qualify this somewhat:
- Unlikely to wake up murdered in your bed
- The weather sucks but extreme weather is rare
- Healthcare and education are for the most part free and adequate
- Clean cheap water!
- Hardly any animals are big enough or poisonous enough to kill you
- The countryside is on your doorstep no matter where you are
- The people have a sense of pride in their nation
- A largely benign and stable governmental system
- A stable currency
Unlikely to wake up murdered in your bed
To be fair you're unlikely to wake up murdered in your bed in most countries. There's nothing particularly British about that.