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It is beginning to look a lot like Christmas –
Boris Johnson's got it, it's oven ready, and it's a turkey!
And it's in the fridge...
Itchen has been held by Royston, 31 vote win 2017 grown to almost 4500... Unbelievable.
Friday the 13th, a nightmare on Downing Street...
Well, that’s that.
What’s the betting that the ‘one nation’ Johnson talks of is ‘England’?
High Peak has gone back to Tory by less than 1000 votes (0.9%).
🙁
Depressingly just realised that brexit is a certainty now. Nothing can stop them. Jesus.
Did you know that female hyenas have a faux penis?
I am just reading amazing animal facts as I have the most hideous in laws coming round Saturday for dinner. They believe in the death penalty, brexit and foam at the mouth at any mention of immigrants.
To get through after this election result, I'll just resort to talking about my amazing animal facts (funnily enough, I don't think they are familiar with facts)
To all the people who voted green in Stroud, well done you just got yourselves a Tory MP.
How Andrew Neil has the brass neck to grill everyone else on why it went the way it did, when Boris and the Tories played him like a fiddle and made him and the BBC look like a bunch of idiots is beyond me.
Here in Bassetlaw the Tories took a 5000 deficit to a 14,000 lead. Tories have double the vote of Labour in an ex-mining community.
That's staggering.
We were 69% leave and everyone I spoke to wanted Brexit.
In hindsight Corbyn should've stuck with Leave and we could've had still worked with Leave but with a Labour government option.
I fear with boundary changes - this may never be reversed.
No point blaming anyone other than the electorate.
Remain has been wiped out.
What's the logic of the pound climbing against the Euro if we're definitely heading for Brexit?
Great news to wake up to, what an early Christmas present. The result was a certainty outside of the ludicrous bubble in here, but what a margin!
No point blaming anyone other than the electorate
Err, no, the blame lies squarely with JC and his team. They have been an utterly useless opposition for the last 2 years.
They should have got a landslide victory against the worst Government in 30 years, yet they have gone backwards by a long way, and it seems, still cannot see they are totally out of touch with the Electorate.
Rone. Certainty. It gives people a clear view of where things are going.
No point blaming anyone other than the electorate.
While the swing in Brexit Labour seats has been something like 10-11% to the Tories, the swing in remain Labour seats has been 7-9% to the Tories. You can blame Brexit for a bit, but Corbyn's Leadership has very obviously been a massive impact.
Err, no, the blame lies squarely with JC and his team. They have been an utterly useless opposition for the last 2 years.
No it doesn't.
The electorate made a choice which in 2017 excluded a 2nd ref. That's pretty much the only thing that has changed for Labour.
The electorate made the decision.
Tories. You can blame Brexit for a bit, but Corbyn’s Leadership has very obviously been a massive impact.
I won't deny it's a factor for some.
But we had Corbyn in 2017. The main thing that has changed is adding a remain option.
What’s the betting that the ‘one nation’ Johnson talks of is ‘England’?
It sure as hell won't be Scotland, most of us voted SNP to keep the * out.
Fat lot of good it does though. Almost an entire country doesn't want a conservative government, but gets it anyway because that's what the neighbours voted for. *.
Well well England has gone one way, with a large Tory majority and a pro Brexit majority Scotland has gone another with the Tories losing seats and Brexit rejected (Again) Time for a second indyref.
What’s the logic of the pound climbing against the Euro if we’re definitely heading for Brexit?
Majority government, or more correctly a non hung parliament. It would have climbed regardless of the party that got a majority . A hung parliament is uncertainty, where as now business at least knows what direction we are now headed.
Time for a second indyref.
A hung parliament could have delivered it, this one won't. Scotland will be staying in the UK at least for the next 5 years, probably longer.
"A vote for Labour is a vote for Scottish independence", -- December 2024.
What’s the logic of the pound climbing against the Euro if we’re definitely heading for Brexit?
Remember all those billionaires that Jeremy Corbyn was going to tax, and all those companies that he was going to nationalize?
Well now they can invest in the UK.
Meanwhile in Scotland...
SNP won with more votes than in 2017 in North Ayrshire whilst Labour got their arses absolutely handed to them. Like across much of the country (NE Fife excepted). 2 votes short of Gary going for a swim though.
But we had Corbyn in 2017
In the seats where Brexit mattered, Labour were stuffed, I think there should have been a programme much earlier to start to make folk realise why it's never going to be a good thing. But that never happened as the Labour leadership also wants Brexit. and the remain seats just don't trust Corbyn at his word. I think in 2017 he was still a newish and untried commindity. This time around folk have had a chance to get to know him and the folk around him, and frankly they mostly don't like what they see. Labour may be rescued by a new Leader, but the ex-commies behind the throne aren't going to give up power, so it'll be more of the same.
I can't see Labour making any grounds up in the next election either if they stick with that.
Excellent news to wake up to. Perhaps we can now leave the EU (there was a referendum, remember) and devote some parliamentary time to dealing with other matters that have been neglected over the last four years.
The only disappointment was that the Abbotasaurus is still an MP. Would anyone here give someone a job if they turned up to an interview with two left shoes on?
Also, time for Comrade Corbyn to resign - albeit about two years too late.
I think Boris's 'Get Brexit Done' slogan hit the right note with many. Labour underestimated how fed up of Brexit people were. Unfortunately they have voted for a pretty horrific form of Brexit just because people have got 'bored' with it.
Was interesting to hear on the BBC the type of leader who Boris would fear most would be Jess Phillips.
Thankfully my kids have dual British Danish nationality, most others don't have that option.
I'm n my mid 40s and I don't know if I have the energy to move to Denmark with all that entails but I'm certainly more open to it.
Excellent news to wake up to. Perhaps we can now leave the EU (there was a referendum, remember) and devote some parliamentary time to dealing with other matters that have been neglected over the last four years.
Well, I’m glad Westminster decided not to bother with a VONC 🙄
Woke up this morning feeling really nauseous and it's not the norovirus or a miraculous conception.
You can’t separate the actions of the Labour Party from the biggest electoral failure I’ve seen ever from them.
This new version of labour is a failure at this point in time. Pretending otherwise will invite more failure.
Unless they start competing with the politics of the Tories I suspect they’ll continue to be ***+** where the sun don’t shine. Principles don’t win elections these days.
Still, on the bright side a decent result in Scotland.
"The People's Government" as a victory slogan.
Makes me feel slightly queasy for a number of reasons.
I can offer asylum in Sweden my Singletrack brothers and sisters.
I know this will not sit easy with most here; and I don`t say it to stoke a reaction. But this shit storm of a situation with a Tory majority is all a result of the Remoaners whinging since the referendum.
Only the Torys were clear they would deliver Brexit.
The Brexit party were/are simply a protest vote. But Labour and Lib Dems were deluded in their belief that the country wanted another vote on Brexit; they don`t - they just want it done to move on from the constant divisive rhetoric spewing from the spoilt mouths of the Remoaners, and the damaging results from the indecisiveness to our economy.
Hopefully Brexit will be done and dusted soon; and Labour reconnect with the working class majority in this country and provide a real opposition. Shit situation!
I don`t say it to stoke a reaction
Remoaners whinging
the constant divisive rhetoric spewing from the spoilt mouths of the Remoaners,
I wonder what you'd have written if you did want to stoke a reaction...
Nah, it’s not Remoaners. It’s a decades long campaign of anti EU blaming or scapegoating.
Hopefully Brexit will be done and dusted soon;
It won't but the mess of it will be starting to be felt within 5 years and more importantly the people voting for it will realise it didn't actually help
and Labour reconnect with the working class majority in this country and provide a real opposition.
See above but they need to walk up and realise Brexit hasn't made their lives better and the tory government have made it worse
Jesus wept, enough!
You were proven right, very well done. Now go enjoy the fact with a song in your heart and a spring in your step. You must be so happy.
There are no winners here, blaming each other is exactly what they want.
Johnson's speech:
now a one-nation party, representing everyone from Kensington to Clwyd South, from Surrey Heath to Sedgefield.
You missed a bit. Or two.
Anyway who’s voting what in the summer 2020 General Election?
So bear with me; I’d rather have stayed in Europe myself but some people are treated this that they’d rather top themselves than remain in Boris UK aka “we’re doomed” “. Shit hits fan”
Can someone write in a short concise non political paragraph of as few words as possible why the UK is apparently now doomed to failure?
And what’s the impact of that paragraph on the average UK person?
Well, we now know how futile a second Brexit referendum would have been. Would've lost that one by a bucketload too.
Looking at the Brexit Party vote, there is capacity for Labour to bounce back more strongly than usual once that issue has been settled. Perhaps once the recession is biting properly and folks who voted for this are wondering what the hell is going on.