Agree, I watched it live, the postal vote thing went over my head but her disdain for Corbyn was undeniable. “I’m going to one of his rallies, he’ll do one of his speeches, attended by his members”
I’m not particularly a fan of Corbyn, but I thought the postal vote comment was outrageous coming from a BBC journalist.
Ta outofbreath, but my point is why isn't that on the BBC?! Doesn't need to be at the top, but should be there. It is very relevant.....Boris runs away!
I’m interested in the mechanics of how a Tory minority government would be assembled – they literally have no friends left at Westminster, they’ve even pissed off the DUP. Who would be propping it up?
This.
Anything other than an actual Tory Majority will lead to a Labour Government of some kind, perhaps not with Corbyn as leader.
Whoever "wins", this is not going to be a happy period in Government. Brexit has to be done or halted (both unpopular) and growth was flat this month and we must be due a recession after 10 years of (tiny) growth.
Waderider, it's on the BBC news feed - and has been since late this morning; probably should have been on there earlier but that's a different discussion.
Ta outofbreath, but my point is why isn’t that on the BBC?!
Sorry, didn't read it properly, thought you wanted to see the vid.
I predict a tiny Tory majority. I’ll be genuinely surprised with anything else.
That is what my money will be on. And I will have more of it with the Tories in power which oddly is not what I want to happen.
Anyone else see Steve coogan on C4 news?
He's promoting tactical voting, but essentially called all Tory voters "ignorant and ill informed" by way of comparing them to partridge.
Can't imagine that was a very good idea.
That is what my money will be on. And I will have more of it with the Tories in power which oddly is not what I want to happen.
Just make a donation to the treasury of the amount you think you ought to be paying - there's a mechanism to do that.
Tory minority would lead to attempts in all directions to form alliances; brexit, plaid & greens are unlikely to have any seats to trade with.
Independents will wish to remain exactly that - independent.
SNP & LDs have both explicitly ruled out working with tories.
Johnson unlikely to willingly cede but may be forced to tell Brenda he cannot form a gov and she will then invite Corbyn to have a go.
That's when the 'fun' will start.
Nothing good - other than johnson & corbyn both walking - will come of this election.
Just a reminder how good the Tories are with the economy and what happens you cut spending.
https://twitter.com/duncanpoundcake/status/1204847238368956417?s=09
A government has to spend or the economy will never recover.
Anyone else see Steve coogan on C4 news?
He’s promoting tactical voting, but essentially called all Tory voters “ignorant and ill informed” by way of comparing them to partridge.
Can’t imagine that was a very good idea.
Yes, I saw that but I think Steve Coogan is turning into his own character.
They are not paying for the shares.
Can you point to where it says they won't? That's most certainly not in there.
I will tell you how it will work though. The companies will grant 1% of shares to the fund until 10% is built up.
The company. So the company will have to own the shares. So they will have to buy them, create them. Or steal them. Which would be a crime. Either way, the government is not going to steak your shares. Stop the bs
They are not paying for the shares.
Can you point to where it says they won’t? That’s most certainly not in there.
Budget for it is not included in the Grey Book so there is no budget planned for purchase.
Unless you claiming there's a 770bn hole in Labour's spending plan that the IFS failed to spot.
You all ready to realise how wrong you are?
The dream ticket, Nicola and Jeremy, annoys the **** out the gammoners, Scottish Labour distraught, jackson carlaw apopletic, indyref 2 delivered, we get the hell out of dodge after finally growing a pair of baws and voting yes, and the cherry on the cake?.
That smug arsehole swinson loses her seat.
Yes please ..Now that would be a Christmas present
I hope I'm wrong, yourguitarhero, massive turnouts for Plaid, the SNP, LibDems and greens would be wonderful. I can't see it happening though hence my prediction.
but essentially called all Tory voters “ignorant and ill informed” by way of comparing them to partridge
He said that Partridge had those attributes, and would vote Tory. Extrapolate that out to ‘all Tory voters’ having those attributes if you want, snowflake.
I will tell you how it will work though. The companies will grant 1% of shares to the fund until 10% is built up.
The company. So the company will have to own the shares. So they will have to buy them, create them. Or steal them. Which would be a crime. Either way, the government is not going to steak your shares. Stop the bs
Thank you for your explanation. You do realise that it supports OOB,s point don't you? After 10 years, 10% of the company - that would have been owned by the current owners of the company - will be in the possession of someone else, and without any payment - certainly no promise of payment that can be found in Labour's pronouncements. Looks like theft - or at the least a stealth tax - to me.
A government has to spend or the economy will never recover.
Even without spending they've managed to increase national debt to the point where the interest payment is 3 times the EU membership fee.
That's because they're not spending on the correct things.
You do realise that it supports OOB,s point don’t you? After 10 years, 10% of the company – that would have been owned by the current owners of the company – will be in the possession of someone else, and without any payment – certainly no promise of payment that can be found in Labour’s pronouncements. Looks like theft to me.
Yup and that's how it's been reported everywhere and how John McDonnell himself explained it. Here's the manifesto text:
We will give workers a stake in the
companies they work for – and a share
of the profits they help create – by
requiring large companies to set up
Inclusive Ownership Funds (IOFs). Up
to 10% of a company will be owned
collectively by employees, with
dividend payments distributed equally
among all, capped at £500 a year,
and the rest being used to top up the
Climate Apprenticeship Fund.
...and here's the grey book which doesn't include paying for the shares:
We're all on the wrong side of history on here. Tough to accept.
https://twitter.com/SavantaComRes/status/1204868699808784387?s=09
Ooof.
That's going to put the cat among the pigeons.
Too tight to call.
I might start a thread for the Spring 2020 election. 🙂
Direction of travel is very keen.
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but essentially called all Tory voters “ignorant and ill informed” by way of comparing them to partridgeHe said that Partridge had those attributes, and would vote Tory. Extrapolate that out to ‘all Tory voters’ having those attributes if you want, snowflake.
Why are you calling me a snowflake?
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I might start a thread for the Spring 2020 election. 🙂
Crack on.
I've really enjoyed Dr Moderate's analysis. Probably because it makes me feel hopeful.
Here's his final prediction.
Con 310
Labour 255
Minority Lab Gov.
https://twitter.com/centrist_phone/status/1204872632962867200?s=09
Direction of travel is very keen.
I’d noticed quite a few folk I know, lifelong Tory voters, are swithering about who to vote for or who have changed their mind. Mainly as they now interpret the current Conservatives to be a nasty bunch of shits (compared to normal). These are all 40+, most actually 60+.
I’d love that to be widespread but I don’t think it is.
I’m going with a weak Tory majority.
These last couple of days have been terrible for Bojo. For people that are not that engaged with politics yesterdays photo on the phone thing and todays hiding in the fridge thing will cut through.
Why are you calling me a snowflake?
I dunno, sorry, it just rolled out with the rest of that sentence. Sorry.
rone - another interesting set of tweets from dr moderate.
IF correct.....johnson loses tory leadership; corbyn struggles to form effective coalition and loses labour leadership; difficult to extract better/different agreement from EU27; 2nd referendum is mirror image of 1st one so nothing resolved; disunity continues; farage continues to stir - if he finds a wealthy backer to replace tice.
To sum up, we'll be no further forward - other than johnson and corbyn walking/being removed.
If anyone sees Cameron.....
Yeah that comres one looks funny as fk
But that could still be a wee Tory majority
If fridgeboy really has blow it will they dump him immediately?
Gove next Tory leader?
Might have to bring the Brandy forward tomorrow night.
If fridgeboy really has blow it will they dump him immediately?
Gove next Tory leader
You lot are very good at jumping in to the future. Proof that politics is never done.
I can only just about cope with tomorrow.
Genuine? If so, WTactualF?!?
https://dorseteye.com/all-pretence-has-now-gone-bbc-reporter-saying-johnson-deserves-a-majority/
Has someone broken Twitter? Boris? The Russians?
Who is that Dr Moderate? If he’s getting my hopes up...........
I wouldn't get that excited
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1204887484200636419?s=20
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1204886057415782404?s=20
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1204844374196211712?s=20
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1204830662643109889?s=20
So assuming we get a Tory government
Cornyn gone by Feb & Rebecca long-bailey, Jess phillips, David Miliband?
@colornoise the BBC is funded by the government so they have squeaky bums at the moment, they have to strike a balance with the sword of damocles hanging over them.
They are still doing mock the week and HIGNfY to be fair though..
Just a shame thier actual news programme is so pro tory.
I'm still thinking we'll have a hung parliament.
The tories will have to gain quite a few seats without losing any.
In the churn there might be a few constituencies flipped both ways, so I'm guessing that's even Stephens in that respect.
The tories will almost certainly lose ground in Scotland.
