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I still have images of someone getting of their turbo and then swapping their road bike for their MTB on the turbo itself rather than in-game!
I've got that covered 🙂
Hi Chaps,
Any room for a first timer this week?
PeeSBee STW
Hi PeesBee - are you on Zwiftpower? I saw you had signed up but couldn't see you on Zwiftpower which you will need to be to count for the results.
I'm entered but currently feeling very heavy legged...
I’m hunting for a quieter start pen (for a shorter start delay, and less traffic on the course)
Well, that didn't work.
Start delay this evening is 12 minutes. So we have to be in the pen by 18:30 and we're off at 18:42.
[NB - event start is 18:30 tonight rather than 18:33 as A is three minutes ahead of D. So in the pen by 18:30, stopwatch start at 18:30]
@weeksy - heavy legs are neither unusual nor unwelcome!
@peesbee - definitely room for you, I'll do a separate post specially, hang on...
This sounds a good crack. I'll be up for some of this once the weather turns, and I start training indoors again.
@peesbee - yes, there is of course room for you. Presumably that is you I already see on the start list? You do need to add "(STW)" [in brackets, no quote marks!) to your rider name in zwiftpower so that the results system counts you as part of the team (it's independent of the "team" functionality in zwiftpower, presumably because some zp teams have loads of entries in the TTT).
Logistics as follows:
- join the event by 18:30. When the screens says "GO", stay absolutely still (in game) for 12 minutes. You probably need to stop spinning the pedals 30 seconds or so before 18:30 to make sure you're at zero watts when it says go. Don't pedal at all during the 12 minute delay.
- comms are on discord. join the STW server here: https://discord.gg/MVneMU and you'll find us shortly before race time in the STW voice channel in there. It's easier with comms. But it's possible without - watch for the start at 18:42, and just ride silently with the blob.
- someone (Phil?) will monitor the time, count us down to 18:42:00 and shout go. At that point, go.
- we are not tactically sophisticated. we try to ride as a supportive group and all get to the line together. If gets scrappy, we work to regroup. If you get dropped, you'll usually get towed or encouraged back on. basically stay in the blob, and it'll be fun. there's no pressure - just contribute whatever you can (and even hanging on the back helps the blob draft so speeds up the team).
- finally, and for tonight only - equip yourself with an MTB or Gravel Bike (whatever is already in your garage, it's not compulsory to splash out like robbo) as it happens to be dirt tonight.
See you in the pen!
Hi - Im on Zwiftpower, but can't work out how to edit my profile to add STW - any ideas?
I'll pick up an MTB - i've got plenty of drops to spend!
I'll try and use Discord - but previous attempts have not gone well.
Click on your profile (top right corner), then clock Zwift profile, on the second line down from the top its says settings, go in to that and you can change your name.
Cheers robbo - sorted.
I'm debating playing with the reality slider, but not sure which way to go, more realism or less... I'm at 50% which is where i always have it... but wondering if i could stick to one end and just TT it...or whether to go the complete opposite and have full reality and see if can power the hills.
https://zwiftinsider.com/wtrl-ttt-71/
Hadn’t seen this before. Quite a handy guide.
Weeksy - I tried playing around with the slider but found 50% to be the sweetspot. Really didn’t like the way it felt on 0% and prefer to keep it on the big ring on the front so wouldn’t change to 100%
I'm just going to try and make it to the bridge for 1 lap, anything else is a bonus 🙂
Turn left at the t junction after the lead in - will get to the bridge quicker! I’ll be right with you!
no words for just how crap that was from me.
Jesus my climbing speed is HORRID !!!!
I'm throwing the turbo out in the stream and taking up walking.
Sorry I had a few issues this week.
Thanks all - that was hard work!
That was a tough one this week. Sorry I dropped off on the descent on the 2nd lap.
3 times up that climb was tough but pretty happy with the 3 attempts.
1. 7.21 at 258w average
2. 6.42 at 296w average
3. 6.58 at 282W average
So fairly consistent. Our three lap times were all within 23 seconds of each other. We overtook quite a few teams as well so think we should be pretty happy!
Couple of teams got in the way right at the end though again!
Cheers guys really enjoyed it again.
Haha, at times our most cohesive ride I think (the first few km, lots of the last lap). But at other times we were, um, shambolic. We were scattered 400m apart at one point. Noone's fault, the course and circumstance opened gaps and sometimes they refuse to be closed. I enjoyed most of it though. My comms broke (again; I know why now! my headset goes to sleep and I can't wake it up without getting off the bike) so I don't know how much I missed in terms of trying to get us back together.
I don't like change, so I think we'll be better back on a normal road surface without double draft next week. The entry is in: 1 lap of Greatest London Flat, so 31k which we've ridden together before.
@peesbee, it's normally hard work but slicker overall than last night.
@weeksy your first walk can be out into the stream to get the turbo back.
I think i need to work on both my TTT and Discord skills. It's difficult to stick as a team, especially when overtaking/being overtaken and that route does seem to pull people apart.
As for Discord, I mainly heard random sounds and the occasional 'can anyone hear me' - was it me or is that how it works?
No. Comms are usually better. We are usually pretty good at coordinating overtakes (either way) and regrouping when necessary.
Overtaking and being overtaken is hard but we're getting better at it. Yesterday was unusual though. There was a lot of traffic, not just teams but dropped riders (I saw some grumpy outbursts from other teams in the chat...) because of the multi lap format. That makes it harder, as does being spread out when a pass starts. Which happened to us yesterday.
Next week should be more representative.
Also apologies to Tom - it took me a lap and a half to realise you were part of the team!
I think at least 4 of us were having issues with Discord yesterday. Tom had no comms at all don't think and other had varying degrees of issues.
Greatest London flat sounds like a better fit to me.
When I said this the other day, I thought I was joking:
I’ll probably still ... start my next road race still on the mtb
But it's exactly what I just did. I don't really know if it would have mattered, but I sat up. I'll try again later (bike is now changed again). Don't be like me.
Oh don't apologise, I was all over the place yesterday.
Overall impression I got is that TTTing offroad is challenging because of the extra rolling resistance/lower speed.
Stuck in an over-running teleconference, set up in a hurry indoors for the first time because it was raining, couldn't connect to discord in the panic, zero warmup and straight into a sprint because I was slow to react to start, I could see the Zwift messages but no access to keyboard to respond.
On the first lap I seemed to be going off the front on the climbs, I did see the time gaps forming and tried to slow down but setup made me akin to stall and fall off the rollers at lower power, which happened a few times.
Then going into the 2nd lap I found I was overheating, fan not actually circulating air as it was next to the wall, I stopped to try and move it but it was still crap and then it took me ages to get back to the group - the pace seemed to pick up. I was running pretty hot and struggling - the last 5km seemed to take forever, I produced an impressive sweat puddle which did not impress wife.
Sounds like you had a nightmare there!
I am pretty lucky I think that my zwift set up doesn't cause me any issues like this and I am able to leave it set up in the lounge!
LOL funny stuff... I was sitting there on the climb thinking "Come on fellas i don't have 3.5w/kg" and even though my HR wasn't peaking it was still pretty high and i struggled as you guys guessed. Then my recovery on the down was fine, but as soon as we hit the climb again, you were up around 3.7w/kg and i just can't do that. I then told you to go, which was lucky as about 30s later my turbo/power started playing up.
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This is my setup. Can reach the fan, keyboard and phone from seating in the bike. Couldn’t imagine doing it on rollers and trying not to fall off!
Category A this week. Enter here https://www.zwift.com/events/view/1042582
1 lap of Greatest London Flat, 31km.
All welcome. If you're new to the team, post in here so I can add all the necessary info.
I am in!
Some info here:
https://zwiftinsider.com/wtrl-ttt-72/
Will stick to the Tron bike I think for this one. Assuming we are in Latte this week then 45 mins of pain...
Yep - maybe a little longer...last time there were 6 of us, riding in frappe, and our time was 46:17. Me and weeksy unhitched on the steep ramp up the stairs/escalator near the end and never got back on. zilog did a superb ride that day.
Provisionally in, not sure how long for but I should make the start line!
Can you guys hear me very well on the discord server?
I use these and push to talk but not sure how much fan noise gets picked up. My wife looks at me very confused like 'we need to push here' and relates it back to child birth I think!
back in this week after a brief break (moved house & some bits needed sorting. Still not got the new pain cave up & running yet though so will be in the office as usual 😂)
If there is a space I'd like to join - my usual team are spread far and wide this week.
I'll try and register...
Ok, registered/entered - Ant Mitchell (ccxl) will change tag to STW.
My wife looks at me very confused like ‘we need to push here’ and relates it back to child birth I think!
I hope you told her it's not as easy as that.
I won't be out to play this week swim away with mrs brain but will be back next week.
not at the moment for me guys... i'm still recovering from the humiliation of the jungle loop last week.
Will there be a discord channel ? Last link I can see has expired.
Good morning all. Here are the details for this evening...
Our start delay is 11.5 minutes. So in the start pen by 18:30 and we're off at 18:41:30.
The start sheet looks like this for now:
phil56
savoyad
twisty
zilog6128
robbo1234biking
haloric
I thought I'd find @ivandobski there. Sign up here Ivan, cat A: https://www.zwift.com/events/view/1042582
There is still space if anyone else wants to join. Same link.
@haloric - welcome! You're an old hand at the event itself aren't you? So you know the "stop pedalling at GO....wait for the start delay" routine? Here's a working discord invite: https://discord.gg/zYqkBx we use the "STW Voice" channel in that server.
@weeksy no worries. there was nothing humiliating about the jungle though. even allowing for your aversion to hills, it was not a particularly normal ride last week. you've done this enough times to know that!
Thinking of giving this a go later if there’s room? Technically I’m on call for work so not a definite.
I’m a Cat B, so will I be out of my depth entering the A race?
Zwift name Paulo Paino (STW)-do I need to change the STW bit in Zwiftpower too?
I'm not yet sure if I can join in this evening, will be there if possible though.
There's room @eat_more_cheese. Don't worry, it's not an A race. The TTT uses the categories in its own unique way Cat A is mainly for teams which are mixtures of B and C. Our current line up for this evening is BBBCCC. So you wont' be out of your depth (in fact, if everyone rides you'll even nudge us *up* a category - that isn't something we pay any attention to but should put your worry in context).
Yes, you would need to append (STW) to your zwiftpower name (Settings, Rider Name) - the organisers use that and not in-game zwift names to match people with their teams.
Discord link is above.
Start procedure is odd: you STOP pedalling when the screen says GO, and wait there without moving for 11.5 minutes for our actual go - which will be shouted over discord or, failing that, just go at 18:41:30 with the rest of us.
@ivandobski - no probs. see you there if you make it!