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Was going to attempt 4 Horseman this weekend, but I see I can't do the final leg of the Tour For All on Monday, as I'd hoped will see if that changes. Will do the longer group ride Watopia Pretzel and then another ride to at least make the same distance as Horseman but not the climb 🙂 most likely a Fulgaz Ride. Hopefully join another group ride soon.
London Pretzel looks a decent ride.
Was going to attempt 4 Horseman this weekend
Just realised this weekend [not next] is the bank holiday. That screws my plan for Sunday hills!
4 Horseman would count as Sunday Hills surely it's got a lot of climbing.
There is still one more weekend in May after this one, might do it next weekend instead see how my legs a feeling.
4 Horseman would count as Sunday Hills surely it’s got a lot of climbing
Precisely, I was thinking it'd be perfect for the long weekend, extra day to recover from the inevitable desire for afternoon drinking that route will result in.
Craig has mentioned 3 sisters for this weekend which given its not all about me - obviously it is mostly, but not entirely - seems like a fair plan.
Hmmmm.
If I'm still a hound then the Hares have an even better chance just been out for a swift 40km ride in the sunshine 🙂
Craig has mentioned 3 sisters for this weekend
That was just a personal route tick off that I plan to do, something with some hills but not crazy, I'm thinking four horsemen might be a step too far for me, I struggle on the Alpe at the best of times 😉
I'm not sure how I'm fixed yet for the weekend riding, I'll try join a group ride if I can (if one is planned) and it fits around all the DIY I need to get done, new kitchen incoming and lots to do prior to it's arrival!
Also want to tick off Surrey hills at some point this week.
Also want to tick off Surrey hills at some point this week
That'll certainly come up on Sunday hills in the not too distant future as its another I've not done.
Turns out having only been doing this for a "few" weeks there's quite a lot of routes I've not done.
It’s 82 degrees in my shed. For that reason alone (and my legs are tired from riding way too much outside lately) I’m going to toast your efforts with a cold beer!
Going to have a go at London Pretzel this week tho. Not seen that before.
Going to have a go at London Pretzel this week tho
Most of it is flat with various forward and reverse routes of the usual London courses, with Fox and Box hill coming in the back half of the route, I really enjoyed it and the hills are fairly tame on this one.
I'm in for the hares today. The last time resulted in an FTP increase, and I was struggling to hold Ivan. I'll give it a shot for a better performance this time. Full gas, all in, probably poop myself.
Jeeez if you're a hare we're going to have to fly?!!!!
I'm just getting some food and am already warmed up
Just opted in - was going to ride out in the sun but work put a stop to that.
happy to go in either group - I'm a B, is 'hound' more appropriate?
are we going to try and use Discord?
I'll give it a go Phil. I bet you've missed my dulcet tones.
I have the app but never used it
A warm breeze being provided b in my fan! Probably the warmest weather when I've sat on the turbo trainer...
Can’t believe i’m on the trainer
Just got off to turn the fan up but it’s already on max setting
Same here! Normally I don't use max speed as it chills me. Don't think that'll be a problem today!
Somewhere back in this thread is the link to the channel you need (!)
Might just listen to music
Will look
By heck those sneaky hares were pulling a pace today
5 mins start indeed. I reckon half that next time. 🥵
I reckon half that next time. 🥵
I reckon half the hares were were whippets with sticky up ears
Garbage from me tonight, only way is up!
Well that was fun!
I signed up as a hare expecting an easy spin and to be caught pretty soon... What happened there?! 🙂
Just over 250W average so top end cat D, low C pacing for me. The blob stayed together pretty well which helped.
I reckon half the hares were were whippets with sticky up ears
I wish, quite the opposite. But it's a flat route and I can sit and churn 270W ish at the front without too much hassle keeping the pace high before sitting in the blob, can't go up hills for shit though.
It's hard to judge the headstart, on the flat you need much less but on the hills it gets eaten up real quick.
That was a lot of fun. Really good hare blob, and good teamwork. As ever thanks Weeksy, and everyone else!
Edit, if you do accidentally start a workout in the middle of a group ride while trying to write a message, you can skip blocks until you get to the end and exit the workout. Which I thought of when I could think again at the end. It seems you do get a draft if you're in a workout which I didn't realize.
Yes big thanks weeksy for organising these
Yeah we fragmented a bit in the hills, but they were short so soon regrouped. Worked well together on the flat. 210w avg for me, much easier pace than the one a couple of weeks ago which basically turned into a solo TT at full gas trying to beat Mooman up that hill!!
That was brilliant from the hares, well done.
Mine started average and went rapidly downhill from there and ended up rubbish.
I was cruising when my power dropped out and then i noticed the ant+ cable was lying in a pool of sweat and soaked. But that was a small part of it, I just had nothing today I'm afraid.
Thks for organising Weeksy - good fun, wd Hares. 5 mins is a lot on that track.
Legs were not the best there - was hanging on to Phil and Jonny but couldn't pull through, guns were empty! Try to do better next time.
In a hare and hounds race both groups need to be shelling the weakest riders to ensure the pace is kept as high as possible. Whilst it is often beneficial to find a group to help on the flats; if the group are too slow then sometimes you just got to go solo.
Having a no breakaway rule simply means you can only go as fast as the slowest rider.
Well done the Hares ... I guess thats one win each now.
Phil caught me with a minute to go....
Great ride! I kept up with the pack for 40 mins but then had nothing left to keep up...the last regroup I did absolutely spanked me!
Held on better than recently though, so was pretty chuffed with it!
I was questioning wtf I was doing riding that on the warmest day of the year so far!
228w avg for me for the hour which is pretty close to my max - bloody good pace though great work on keeping the group together - now where's the mop...
Having a no breakaway rule simply means you can only go as fast as the slowest rider.
No the case, it's only no solo breaks, you can still drop riders and the hounds dropped me for sure when I told them to leave me. So you're only as fast as the slowest group within your group
If you could of pulled away from the front of the group's you'd be monstering, just shy of 40km/h for the hares for much of it.
Not sure what happened, but when we set off after 5 mins the board had the Hares with a 7 min lead?
Good riding by the hares, but the hounds took too long to get organised and get the hammer down! We were gaining quite quickly at the end, but ran out of time - still two minutes behind when the Hares finished.
Next time!!
So you’re only as fast as the slowest group within your group
And how do you make a group out of group? its by one rider going off solo and others chasing him down to join him ... it always takes one rider to start the process.
I every hare & hounds race I have done there are always numerous solo attacks - it helps keep the pace high, and dropping the guys just about hanging on. By the end, the winning group is wittled down to only a handful of riders.
In a hare and hounds race both groups need to be shelling the weakest riders
maybe true - but it's a social bit of fun, and I like Dangeourbrain's quote - 'it's like Platoon, but with more bodies'!!
Also, had the hounds got significantly closer I reckon the hares would have increased the pace and started to break up quite rapidly.
Lol we only started with a few. A couple of monsters in the wrong groups if you ask me.
Pessbee and zilog, you boys are too fast for me!!!
But it was so much fun making you sweat Steve!
Peesbee still had a go on the sprints. It worked well but it would have broke up if the hounds were much closer. We eased up the last 5 minutes to stay together. Really good fun though. Really enjoyed it.