[Closed] Yeti 575 v. Spesh Enduro v. Orange 5 v. Whyte E5 - your thoughts please

The E150 isnt a great fork IMO, I swapped mine out for a Van36 and the bike is now lovely, I rode my mates 575 and it felt very similar

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http://bikescene.co.uk are a good source for frame only/+fork deals

A little biased to, however I like the E150, just wind it down on the climbs.

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Both of those look very purposeful - just what are they like on the ups? Are they ok, or not that great but worth it for the downs (which my Reign was)?

I have an 2009 Orange 5 and my wife a 2008 Yeti 575.

Both are great. I'd say the 5 picks up speed very quickly and the Yeti climbs superbly (and is very light for the travel) but isn't quite as involving as the 5.

Not sure that helps you much 🙂

I can tell you that both performed flawlessly last week in the Alps!

Friend has an Enduro and it seems to go up hill very well when I've tried it. Always seem to be good deals around on them, so lots of bang for your buck. He has however had big issues with the fork, lossing pressure etc. That said it was replaced under warrenty no problem and has been great since.

Tride a 575 on a Demo day. Really liked it, can be built up lots of ways and seem to last well.

Had a couple of goes on a 5, not for me. Seems to bob a lot on the climbs, good on the downs, but so are all the others.

Not rode an E5, but rode an E120. Not convinced, pedalled wellish, but I found it a bit like the 5, bobby. Nothing like as good as the others on the downs.

Have you also considered the likes of the Ellsworth Epiphaney. I would sayway better that all the others on the ups and still as good on the downs. (and I dont even own one anymore).

Some good comments there, cheers. I like the fact that you can get good deals on the spesh, plus a good warranty. I think the 575 is one of the nicest bikes made and the more good things I hear the better! Not really thought about ellesworth as always thought they were a bit pricy when you look at the 575 as £1200 for the carbon rear

I had a day out on a 575 and I was very impressed. The review in the mag was quite accurate, somehow it soaks up everything without losing pedalling efficiency. They are easy to build up light too.

Another Enduro/E150 fan here. Yes, there were problems intitially, but mine has been pimped and blinged internally and is now superb. Not ideal on teeny tiny bumps, but that's less of an issue for me than big hits and [i]superb[/i] steering accuracy.

As mentioned above, wind down the travel on the climbs and they're great.
For me, it was a close run thing between a 5 and the Enduro. In the end, an ex-demo (barely used!) Enduro won me over.

I have an Intense Tracer and I think its superb ran it with a 140 float to start but it makes it too steep so now I have a set of 36's on it and its now one of the best bikes I,ve ever ridden, great climber and bottomless travel on the descents

I bought a 2008 575 frame off here, cracking frame & I was really surprised how well they do climb for a full bouncer! GET ONE!!

Yeti 575 everytime.

£1200 for 575 frame with carbon rear is a good price.

I tossed up between the ibis mojo and 575, I ride with 3 guys who all have 575's they have rode Yeti bikes for years.

I have '07 575 model and i echo comments here. Truely a great ride. As its done the miles i can say it did develop play in bearings sooner than i had hoped, but replacements are holding up better. no other probelms.

Frames aside, since I got the E150 fork TF Tuned it has been the best performing fork I've ever had. The travel adjust is just superb and turns the Enduro into a great climbing machine. Can't wait to see the reviews of the E160 on the new Enduro

Rode my Enduro at Inners this weekend, handled the xc climb up to minch moor no problem, fantastic on the downs including make or brake descent. Only the pilot lets it down. 😳

Even thinking of ditching the PA hardtail cos its not used much.

575 all the way here, some say the rear end is too active but I love it, climbs like a goat and comes back down equally as well

I have never ridden any of the other bikes on your list, but I have a 2007 Yeti 575 and I like it.

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Cough Im amazed someone cough hasnt come along and recommended a Chumba yet!

I've ridden a couple of the 2007-2009 Enduros with the E150 fork and quite liked them, they're stiff, lightweight and seem just the ticket for an all day do anything kind of ride (which was the reason why I bought my old 2004 Enduro). However, I did find the rear shock lacked a lot of plushness and it's apparently a custom fit so plugging in a Fox or Rockshox alternative might not be easy.

There is a new Enduro due anytime now, which really does look quite impressive, you just need to figure out whether you need 160mm of travel or not.

Lot of Yeti fans out there:))
mrmojo - £saw the half carbon rear for £1200 and full carbon rear for £1250 at Life Cycles in Bolton.
Need to go and look and stroke these bikes in the flesh! Keep your experiences coming tho.

Cheers
all

Oh BTW- Dango you need to retreat your decking 🙄

Another enduro SL evangelist here, and that fork once Tuned by Neil at Tuned is superb. Had a 04 575 and while it was a good bike just didn't do it for me and everything I like should have been sorted on the new one. There a few SL e150 enduros about the place If you want a bargain shop around they're going fast.

Maintenance might be a factor to bear in mind too.

5 couldn't be more simple, 575 is a little more complex.

I have to say if i didn't have a 5 then i would have a Yeti but then my wife and i would have matching bikes!

Wheelbase are good guys - [url= http://www.wheelbase.co.uk/product_10646.htm ]good price for a 575 frame too[/url]

><))))) that's a brilliant price - credit card is twitching!

I'd snap it up if I was you..............

very happy owner here too

I'm very happy with my Enduro SL...
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I got mine as a frame only, so I've not tried the E150 fork. The Specialized AFR shock was cack though - Manitou ISX-6 was a great upgrade.
The bike climbs like a demon, but its very capable going down too 😀

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Wheelbase are good guys - good price for a 575 frame too

Damn I'm tempted but I wanted the team colours in a large just for something a bit different! Tempting

I've test ridden a 575 at Wheelbase and wasn't that impressed. It was plush but the BB felt too high for me, and it didn't handle that well. I'd definitely try and get a go on one before you buy. I was keen to get one at the time but decided against it after the ride, which says it all really.

I've not ridden the latest Enduros but I loved the older ones. Good fun, although the bearings die quickly. I've test ridden the Orange a few times and never been impressed with that either. Suspension felt basic compared to the 4-bars. That may be different these days with the newer shocks, I don't know.

Another happy 575 owner here. It climbs fantastic, propedal on for efficient climbing, but turn it off and you can climb some amazingly boulder strewn tracks/gulleys as the rear suspension will just swallow it up allowing you to keep pedalling. My old full suss (Litespeed Niota) would have been bouncing over the rocks and spitting them back down the hill as your tyre scrabbled for traction.

£1500 for the 5spot on wheelbase too. Shame it's in that crap grey colour or I'd probably have one of those

Go on...you know you want to....

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Another vote for Yeti here.

credit card is twitching!

did you buy it then?

Yeti 575 mate! I've stopped looking at other bikes because mine is so good! Float 36 wound down to 140mm on the front and it's ready for anything IMO!

Can't recommend the Enduro enough. A fantastic all day bike that you can throw down hills and ride back up them with equal ease.

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Well, just sold my glory frame, couple more bits to sell and we'll see- what size enduros and 575 for a 5'8" person, medium?

You could probably go small or medium

medium for an enduro.

Another happy 575 owner here. Can't add much to what's already been said,it's the best climbing bike that I've tried/owned.
The Orange 5 is more responsive ,you'd be happy with ether of those.

small 575 for someone 5'8".
my small 575 is larger than my old medium stumpy. im 5'7" BTW

Can we get a definitive on sizes please - I'm hearing medium for enduro which is what I'd expect and small for Yeti which I wouldn't - anyone?

Also I'm 16st of ripped muscle (sort of) - any issues with Yeti carbon rear I should know about?

cheers

Can you not go & bounce on one somewhere?

Out of your list Danny, I'd plump for the Yeti. Heard nothing but good reports about them.

Sure your budget cant stretch to a Turner ?

Also, might be worth dropping Deejay a line. Think he has test rode most of them bikes.

Belive me I'd love a 5-spot but talking another £500 for the frame compared to the Yeti.............with work being so secure ;( I'm trying to make this all cost neutral - basically ending up with one bike, should get around £1350 once all the bits I'm seling have gone (nearly there) so that sort of adds up to a Yeti and new fork nicely

...........just headsing off to look for cheap 5spots

The small yeti is huge. It's a LOT taller than my medium hustler. I thought that the rear end was pretty flexy and at 16stone it might be worth having a good old test before you do anything.

You could always have a word with Chris at Life Cycles see if he can do you a deal on a turner. Not sure if he is still a Turner dealer though.

At 16st dont even look at the carbon yeti. go for the alu carbon.
lots of details on sizing on yetifan etc.
also a yeti 575 vid on u tube that says about weight limits.

Balls -quick somebody tell me I should just get a Chumba XCL for £899 of si-progressive

Cant see why not it is a 4-bar design and I like those. Have a word with Si, It all comes down to cost etc etc. A comlete bike is cheaper, I had a 08 S-works carbon enduro with headset without the seatpost for £849...

Balls -quick somebody tell me I should just get a Chumba XCL for £899 of si-progressive

Do it!! 🙂

Another one for the pot...... Trance X0 running a Fox 36 - plenty built up like this on MTBR Giant forum. Mine has a 32RLC and comes in at just under 26lbs. Climbs really well, comes down even better. I weigh 18.5 stone!!

I've had a 575 carbon since July and best bike i've ever riden by far. Its like a soft magic carpet. The one like Alladdin has. Sorry but best way to describe the ride. 😀

well I'm nearly 16 stone of ex prop and have had no problems - and whilst no Steve Peat years of motorbike enduro mean I don't hold back - had a good day out in the Basque region a while back with Doug (above) - hi Doug!!

I did break a swingarm once - an alloy FSR one

that youtube vid is complete bollox - could have been you or me. Yeti have stated somewhere there is no weight limit

if it did break, I'd be confident Yeti would sort it quickly

whyte e5 has a weight limit...great bike tho'

I ride the Enduro SL Expert with E150, and unfortunately can't speak for the other bikes. I can say the Enduro is a great all rounder, great all-dayer, fantastic at climbing and awesome at descending. Once dialled in correctly the fork is very good. If you're interested I've got a load of images and a mini review, [url= http://www.bikesr4riding.com/2009/09/08/images-and-review-specialized-enduro-sl-expert/ ]Images and Review: Specialized Enduro SL Expert[/url].

The Santa Cruz Blur is also a very tasty ride worth considering. And whilst at Afan recently I hired a nearly new Kona One20 and enjoyed in immensely.

In either case, be patient and try to get a test ride on each model. Good luck

Hi Charlie! I'd forgotten that you had a new style 575. Hope you had a good rest of your holiday, it was fun showing you round Jaizkibel.

I've got to say that Charliemort is a big lad and rides his bike fast as well so if he's not had any problems with the Yeti swingarm that's a good advert!

I must be getting on for 16 stone kitted up and have taken my 575 off 2-3 foot drops with no issues. Any rear end issues people have had have been sorted by Yeti very quickly. The rear end on mine is absolutely fine and I find the bike inspires loads of confidence, roack gardens roots or drops the bike takes them all.

yoshimi - that's a good deal on the XCL you know you want it.... I prefer mine to the Orange 5's I've had too.

I'm off to leisure lakes shortly, I know they have, 575, enduro and orange in, so gonna squeeze a few brake levers and compress some forks, see if I can get a test ride on them too- this is turning out to be z log harder than I thought, sorta think the chumba might be a bit too burley and heavy but I do ride hard and that's why the yeti concerns me, I suppose there is a five year warranty tho............doh!

My XCL is 32lbs and it's got some heavy wheels and a mix of SLX components and heavy bars, you can build a XCL to 27lbs ish if you have the inclination.

I don't think of it as a burly bike but it does feel more substantial than the Pitch but more solid like a Orange 5 feels.

Enjoy your search today always nice looking for new bike.

Cheers forge, gotta say, the chumba us a very good looking bike- I'm actually off to wheelbase now, didn't realize it was that shop in stavely, only an hour from here- and you're right, it is very enjoyable looking for a new bike:))))

so you get us all excited about your shopping and then don't tell us about it.................

He got a 575. The bastard sent me a picture of it on his living room floor on Saturday. He could barely contain his excitement.

I hate him.

im 6 4 and 16 stone

ive got a 2008 enduro sl in LARGE with e150 forks and it is superb, climbs fanatstically, descends great, never complained in the italian alps in summer, very light, and looks great IMHO. i bought it as a frame and fork package for £1400
i used to have a new style yeti 575, and did not like it at all, the back end felt very flexy under pedalling, i know 2 people who have snapped the carbon rear end, so i would say if you do pick the yeti go for the alu version. i sold the yeti after 4 months
for me the deal breaker for the enduro is the 5 year warranty on fork/shocks, i have returned the fork once for a new cartridge when i first got it, but since then it has been great, and spesh nevr complain about returns

so what size did he get?

Sorry guys, I've spent the last few days just stroking it! As lowey said, I went for the 575, in medium. Managed a test ride on the orange, spesh and 575. It was close between the enduro and 575, but just couldn't resist the swoopy purposeful lines of the yeti:). 5 year warranty on the frame so if it does snap (I really hope not) then I'm covered ( not if I crash it tho). Only got a pic on my phone but will post one up as the build progresses. Look out for a 'what forks for a 575' thread soon. Cheers for all of the comments and help:)

Good choice - Wheelbase?

Yep, got it from whhelbase- highly recommended- good staff in there

[i]just couldn't resist the swoopy purposeful lines of the yeti[/i]

Imagine how happy you'd have been with one of the proper shaped ones! 😉

Good choice - hope you're as happy with it as I am with mine. Over 3 years now, still don't want anything else.

Amazed you got a medium at 5'8"

did you not read those threads on Yetifan?

Turns out I'm actually 5'9- I'm sure that didn't make the difference, but I must be one of these people with oddly proportioned bodies. I went out for a good ride on them leaving my wife as insurance- medium just felt right and comfy, looking forward to an all day epic:)

Was your misses still there ?

Was your misses still there ?

There are definitely times when I would swap my missus for a 575.

I'm 6' and on a large with 70mm stem. Many would swear I should be on a medium, but medium felt too small - bashing elbows on knees. I prefer a bit of room

so don't listen to 'em..............

what did Wheelbase have to say about failing rear triangles out of interest? Bromley Bike whenever I've spoken to them have said they have seen very few back (if any)

[i]Was your misses still there ? [/i]
She was the one with the card...just need to pay her back now!

charlie - I did ask about the carbon rear triangles and my weight <cough>, specifically is there any sort of weight limit - he said no and its just rubbish spread on internet forums and he's only ever seen problems with the stays popping out of the drop-outs but thats very rare. He also reminded me that the frames have a 5 year warranty. Obv he's trying to make a sale and I'm sure there are cracked 575's out there but hopefully those occurences are a low proportion of those sold.

The whole bashing elbows on knees was exactly whatr I thought about the small one!

Can't go wrong with an orange 5 IMHO - no bike puts a smile on my face like it. I've got a 2006 frame with a new RP23 and some Z1 SL's on it, its a lot of fun and doesn't blow through the mid range of the travel so quickly with the RP23. That's not to say all the other bikes mentioned aren't great too, but I like lively ride you get from a 5. I can't fault it.

i dont think a salesman with a potential sale of a 575 would tell a customer that there are problems with the stays snapping.
good thing is yeti will warranty it, so no problems at all, but it does happen, mind you stuff breaks from all makers, so dont worry about it,