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Not if you're doing it in Kilos. Lbs only to properly earn your trails.
But you can't force your values on other people.
**irony alert**
Im sure that if you're using a suspension fork then adding a heavier electric powered front wheel will actually make the suspension work better...something to do with sprung/ unsprung weight ratio.
Im sure that if you're using a suspension fork then adding a heavier electric powered front wheel will actually make the suspension work better...something to do with sprung/ unsprung weight ratio.
Er, no, you have that completely the wrong way round - increasing the unsprung mass is very bad for suspension performance!
I have no problem with ill or lame people using e bikes .It`s just not cycling
It`s just not cycling
Of course it is.
I don;t ride downhill, but am frankly surprised that given the nature of the bikes, E-bikes don't become the non-uplift norm. And I see nothing wrong with that or any other e-bike.
It is comforting to know that cycling is ever more accessible thanks to e-bikes and I hope I won't need one for a long, long time.
Great if you've got a heart condition, or whatnot, otherwise MTFU!
Has anyone felt the weight of one of these things!
Last year we were having our yearly lakes, camping, biking and drinking trip and got chatting to a chap with his in the camp site.
Looked like a big FS from a distance we had a good chat and I lifted it it bloody hell I said that's heavy must be the battery to which he replied that battery is not on it I'm charging it at present 😯
It must have weighed at least the weight of my old Spesh Status 1 without the battery! No way would I want to be lugging that over any gate etc..
Now if you need one to get out for health reasons why not, bugger all to to do with me but sod that! They are way too heavy for my liking.
Three guys on e-bikes with us on our ride today, I had fun. They had fun.
If they didn't have them I doubt they would have come along.
If you think they are too heavy it is possible to retro fit a motor to the seat post of many bikes and the motor+battery package adds 1.8 kg to the bike. Will provide useful pedal assist for up to an hour if used on the lowest setting.
http://www.vivax-assist.com/en/unternehmen/
Great ride out on the Peaslake MTBO today, grinding up Radnor Road climb pretty tired doing probably 6kmph a guy on a electric bike came by at about 15k. It was just nuts really, aside from a medical condition I don't see the point. Anyone on a group rode has to wait for me anyway 😳
The bikes will get lighter and cheaper as technology moves on. Doesn't appeal to me yet but it is the future.
Grumpy old "purists" leading people on crap bridleway rides, being all about suffering and roadie style self punishment are probably a more significant threat to mountain biking than e-bikes. Christ I'd give up riding if I was forced to ride with some of those types......
Live and let live - it's all 2 wheels and people having a laugh on bikes, regardless of format, and that's good enough for me.
I don't want one. Anyone else can do whatever they want.
It`s just not cycling
Yeah, so?
andyrm - Member
Grumpy old "purists" leading people on crap bridleway rides, being all about suffering and roadie style self punishment are probably a more significant threat to mountain biking than e-bikes. Christ I'd give up riding if I was forced to ride with some of those types......
Live and let live - it's all 2 wheels and people having a laugh on bikes, regardless of format, and that's good enough for me.
Hit the nail on the head 🙂
Live and let live - it's all 2 wheels
Motocross bikes have two wheels, so you'd be happy with them hooning down the local bridleways?
In my eyes E-bikes are a great thing for the sport and humanity as a whole. The more people out exploring the world on quiet, non obtrusive modes of transport the better.
But they should not be put in the same category aas bicycles, access wise.
They have a motor, so are not human powered vehicles.
Motocross bikes have two wheels, so you'd be happy with them hooning down the local bridleways?
No, I wouldn't, which is why I asked about an e-bike and its ability to rip the ground up from a stand still...
Motocross bikes have two wheels, so you'd be happy with them hooning down the local bridleways?
They are loud, smelly, very fast and rip up the trails. That's why I don't like them sharing bridleways. If they were none of those things, like e-bikes, I wouldn't have an issue. I object to MXers on (some) trails for practical reasons, not out of some kind of us-and-them principle. Show me a silent electic MX bike that can only go 15mph, has narrow tyres and doesn't rip up trails, I'm happy.
why I asked about an e-bike and its ability to rip the ground up from a stand still...
Well I've not ridden one but surely as the power is proportional to your own, you'll only get a little extra boost from a standstill.
IHREB.
today, in fact.
ive had a 30 second go up and down the street on several different ones, but today i borrowed a full suspension cube hybrid from my local shop and rode out for an hour.
it uses the bosch system, which works well, it is fantastic for climbing, fantastic for pulling out of corners, and tbh doesnt feel unusual at all.
UNTIL, you go above 15.5mph.
you can definitely notice the speed limiter, above that point the bike felt slightly sluggish, although i had no trouble hitting 20mph on a shallow climb (old railway line)
compared to my own bike, which has less travel and smaller 26" wheels, the hybrid felt less lively to accelerate turn and stop, presumably due to the extra weight.
There was no ripping of soft ground on mud or gravel, none of the people i met gave me any more than a normal amount of attention.
Is it better than a human powered bike?
hmmm, for a fit rider id say no, its no quicker uphill, and no quicker downhill (for a fit rider)
for someone of more average fitness, or someone heavy, it means climbs are no longer such a chore, so riding becomes a bit easier.
When Igot back to the shop, i noted that my legs were sore, that i was out of breath and moderately sweaty.
had i done the same ride on my own bike i would have been drenched in sweat today but i dont believe my legs would have been so sore, as my bike accelerates more easily than the hybrid. (Above 15mph)
i also would have walked some of the longer climbs, mostly out of boredom tbh.
To sum up, ebikes just feel like bikes, nothing like a mx bike at all, and they need to be ridden, just lke the real thing.
ps: ive ordered my own ebike today, but its a hardtail, i don't intend to do much mtbing on it, but i will probably fit a rack and panniers to it.
Sorry my post is so long.
No apology needed, great post with actual info after a ride!
I took a group out locally on Saturday and one of them was on a full MTB e-bike.
He had no trouble getting up all hills any of the rest of us got up, but not quite as quick going down.
He enjoyed himself.
As an asthmatic I would love an eBike.
He enjoyed himself.
And that is all that matters.
Above Alpisella, Livigno.... I'll just leave this here....
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full sus fat bike?
Salsa Bucksaw?
FS Fatbike meets FS e-bike. Smiles all round.
Last year at a fatbike meet I went on, in Livigno.
rickmeister - MemberFS Fatbike meets FS e-bike. Smiles all round.
Until the earth's crust collapsed beneath them
Until the earth's crust collapsed beneath them
But at least it was a soft landing ....
I tried the specialized one up and down the street (the LBS would not let me out of his sight) and the push is great. I can see this being useful as the others have said for those with health problems or just out trying to get fit. Its a tool and beats walking.
I am thinking of adapting my boardman mtb to run e just for the winter commute in preference to using the scooter.
I have seen a de restricted one in London and the guy is quicker - scares half the bus drivers in Kings Cross!
I've just had a thought, it's a brilliant way for my dad to come for a ride with me and the kids (in a trailer)
He bought a BSO but has never ridden it
Where's a good place to pick up a cheap 2nd hand one?