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[Closed] Would you buy a (new) fatbike for ~£1k?

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Got the Dr br2250 and jumbo Jim's to inflate.
Put the tube back in and rode it since I taped them up.
Deflated, pop one side of the tyre off and removed the tube.
Pulled the tyre back on to the bead as best I could, inflated and went straight up.

Only problem being leaking air around the valve, even with a oring either side of the rim..
Maybe sealant will close the holes.


 
Posted : 16/03/2017 5:59 pm
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Got the valve sealed but air was leaking through the cutouts, even with 3 layers of tape. 2 to the rim bead over lapping in the middle then one over the middle.
I pressed out every air bubble I could in the tape.

Pulled it all out and put the tube back in.

Fatty stripper next.


 
Posted : 17/03/2017 9:03 am
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Like others have said, depends on how much use and where you're going to use it, if you're buying it to use as an all-round MTB bike including something that feels alive on the trails, yes you would but second hand, buying new, I'd put a bit more to it than a grand.

You'll only end up spending that extra on upgrades (which is fine, some prefer to do that as and when needed and when they can afford to)but if you can scout out something new that's been reduced, with blutos and a half decent spec for that bit extra then it will be worth it trust me.

Not read through all the replies, hope you get sorted, you won't regret it!


 
Posted : 17/03/2017 10:21 am
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https://www.tritoncycles.co.uk/bmx-bikes-c3/retro-bmx-c28/fat-ripper-26-bmx-bike-2016-p15166

Bit weighty though and cable brakes.


 
Posted : 17/03/2017 5:23 pm
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PK Rippers & Quadangles, what I wouldn't have given for either..


 
Posted : 17/03/2017 10:09 pm
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@letitreign: I love that you came in to page 57 of the thread and still answered the original question 🙂

@Goldigger: For my DT Swiss rims I just used two layers of 50mm wide Duct Tape back-to-back to make the rim strip then two wraps of 75mm wide Duct tape (one wrap pushed tight to each side). It's been holding fine for around 9 months now (including a couple of tyre changes). It does seem to be a bit of a lottery though.


 
Posted : 17/03/2017 10:23 pm
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Cheers Roverpig, I might just do a split tube..i really don't want to be fixing a puncture on a tube.. Half an hour of pumping.!

On another note I'm interested to see how many people have gone 1x10/11 from the stock 2x10.
Did you get a decent range and low enough gear for the fatty?

I've got a lot mounted on the bars. Brakes, gear shifters, rockshox lockout and soon a dropper remote. Would like to loose the left shifter at least and change the right shifter for a ispec so I can attach to the brake lever.

Then there's the e-thirteen yes cranset, it has a removable spider so I could mount one of their direct mount 28t/30t chainrings. But looking about there is a fatbike chainring, how's this different to a normal chainring? Offset for chain line?


 
Posted : 19/03/2017 12:55 pm
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I bought one of those cheap phaart pumps from on one. Was surprised how quickly it inflated the tyre considering how small it is.


 
Posted : 19/03/2017 1:01 pm
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The raceface options are really good- I put an aeffect for 170mm rear on mine, perfect fit and good weight. And I think a 28T chainring. That'd be too low for a normal bike but I really don't miss it on the dune. A few others have pretty much the same, it's a good balance of price and performance I think.

Something like a truflo 2-stage makes a lot of sense for a fatbike- low pressure, high volume. Bit bigger than a pocket pump but inflating a fatbike tyre with a pocket pump is just horrible.


 
Posted : 19/03/2017 3:15 pm
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Cheers Northwind,
I noticed Canyon put a 28t on the single Crankset dude.
But the 11-46 cassette they also put on having the 37-46 jump seems a bit pants. Of course there's the sram option which has been talked about enough on here 🙂

Regarding pumping tyres up, I was looking at the 12g refillable Co2 cartridges, not sure if that's enough for a fat tyre 4.0 upwards?

I run Co2 on my fish tank so filling them up isn't a problem, would just need to source or put together an adaptor.


 
Posted : 19/03/2017 4:15 pm
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I have an 11-42 on mine, works for me- old style expanded 10 speed.

I found the gearing a wee bit unituitive tbh. I worried that 28-42 wasn't low enough, but what i found is that at crawler speed, a fatbike's not so different from a normal bike on grippy tyres. It's only when you want it to go faster that the drag really kicks in- all about hysteresis, you're pushing against the tyre's lag in deformation, so the faster you go the more you have to push.

Or that's how I explain it, anyway. Important thing was, when I want to really crawl- a long steep grind, or the last climb of the day, that's a low enough gear


 
Posted : 19/03/2017 4:32 pm
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Anyone interested in a 30T Cinch oval chain ring for their fatbike? Its an Absolute Black one (albeit, green) thats covered no more than 25 miles.

I've gone smaller, most of my uphill rides are against the wind so I need all the help I can get!


 
Posted : 20/03/2017 3:02 pm
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Does anyone know if the On-One Fatty Trail frame will ride ok with the On-One steel Fatty Fork? I'm planning on a cheap build and a trail frame looks to be cheaper second hand than the non trail frame.


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 11:48 am
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Since this thread has bumped anyway just a note for anyone fat curious that i'll be selling a blue XL Surly Ice Cream Truck very shortly. Just needs a wash and will be in the classifieds but drop me a mail if interested. Its had very little use.


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 12:35 pm
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I'd be tempted to buy one of these ku bikes 16" fatbikes if they get past the prototype..depending on price.
Our 5 year old would love one.
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20" starts at €795
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Posted : 22/03/2017 12:13 am
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Does anyone know if the On-One Fatty Trail frame will ride ok with the On-One steel Fatty Fork?

Someone fitted the carbon fork to a Fatty Trail on UK Fatbikes forum and then used a 4.4" (or was it 4.8"?) tyre up front, with a 4.0" at the rear, to try and correct the 120mm suspension geometry of the frame.


 
Posted : 22/03/2017 8:00 am
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I'll have an 18" fatty on the classifieds later too for way less than 1k. Just waiting for the rain to stop so I can wash and photograph it.


 
Posted : 22/03/2017 10:23 am
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PX now have El Guapo fat wheels in 135/170mm Q/R flavour with post mount spacing (FDS?) for £199.

States they don't fit the On One forks, which incidentally, I hope to finally have installed in the coming days by LBS.


 
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Posted : 24/03/2017 3:36 pm
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Tooh fa'zund!


 
Posted : 24/03/2017 3:36 pm
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Que?


 
Posted : 24/03/2017 4:00 pm
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http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/manitou-mastodon-1039416-2.html

Manitou Mastodon Fatty forks coming soon.

It's good to see that they wheels are back in stock at PX as they were out a few weeks ago & judging by the email I was sent they had little intention of putting more up for sale.


 
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Saw that last week...went hunting for the illusive images but drew a blank. Thanks for posting the link, good to see there are finally some pics of the mastodon fork..just need a price next.


 
Posted : 27/03/2017 2:25 pm
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Recommendations for new rims please. I've got some Hope Hubs on the way for my Dune so I'm in the market for rims.
I'll be running 4" or 4.8's. Mulefats for their tubeless qualities or DT Swiss for weight? Anything else I should consider at a similar price?


 
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Gold Digger,Im looking at alternatives to Blutos so im rather interested in the Mastodon.

RST also do their Renegade fork which seems to get good reviews from the States. I contacted RST Europe on FB lastnight to ask abut a UK supplier, they messaged me back to say to try Scott at Resurrection Cycles.

Ill let you know how I get on with that as well. Ill be interested in a price. Though im in the position of pondering if its worth spending £400+ for forks on a £500 bike.

edit... Resurrection Cycles don't seem to exist judging by their web page. Oh well, nvm all the more reason to hang on for the Manitou.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 1:23 pm
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Im looking at alternatives to Blutos so im rather interested in the Mastodon.

wren Forks FTW
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Posted : 29/03/2017 1:45 pm
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Ive commented on your pics a few times on FB, loving the Wrens, overkill perhaps on a £500 budget fattie lol.

I have seen a budget Wren copy on the go though, DNM suspension I think it was. Half the price of the Wrens and Blutos.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 4:02 pm
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After months of prevarication, I finally pulled the trigger on a set of Blutos a few weeks back. So I think I can take some credit for Manitou releasing this new wonder fork now 🙂

I can't really find much wrong with the Blutos though, which is strange as reading some of the comments online you'd think they were the worst forks ever made. Maybe I just don't push them hard enough to notice the shortcomings, or maybe I'm just not skilled enough to spot the problems.

I've got a (29er) Pike (130mm) on one bike and a (26") Float 32 (140mm) on another. According to the internet, one is great and the other is a pile of poo, but as far as I can tell they both do the job just fine. That's the job of soaking up some of the bumps and saving my wrists from too much abuse. Same for the Bluto really, but I'll still watch the release of the Mastadon with interest. If nothing else, it's a great name.


 
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have seen a budget Wren copy on the go though, DNM suspension I think it was. Half the price of the Wrens and Blutos.

And twice the weight....
I'm steering clear of all sus forks at the moment on my fatty:
Blutos - people rave about, but it's just a widened Rs revelation. Having to service it twice a year doesn't appeal (my experience with Rs forks).
Wren - no performance upgrade from Blutos (from what I've read), heavier and more expensive. Easier to service though. Also look pretty cool.
Lauf - love the looks but they wouldn't do the job I'm looking for. IE undampped, limited travel which they blow through in extreme situations, great for long haul or xc duties though.
DNM - (very)heavy and cheap, seals arnt the best.
RST - No experience of, but my bias 1990's mind tells me to avoid. + OEM only?
Manitou - look interesting..... Will wait and see how reliable they turn out to be....

If I were going front sus it probably try a set of Fox or Xfusion boost forks and squeeze in a 4" tyre as it's rare I go bigger (little snow and sand near me). But this means another new front wheel so it gets more expensive again.

+ I like the challenge of riding rigid and keeping up with my full sus mates...


 
Posted : 30/03/2017 12:26 pm
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I rode my Spearfish yesterday and I'd have to say my Fatty with a sus post was plusher on the rear.
The only place it was noticeably better was riding up a set of steps.
Back on the fatty today.


 
Posted : 30/03/2017 12:39 pm
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Zippykona, can I be nosey ask which seat post you use?


 
Posted : 30/03/2017 1:54 pm
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Use. It's the 80 mm one with the single bolt head.
Edit think it's a vybe.


 
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Turns out im completely skint. Anyone want to buy a mint set of Bluto's?
Going to list in the classifieds.


 
Posted : 30/03/2017 2:21 pm
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rOcKeTdOg
What's the specs on your fatty? What does it weigh?
Did you manage to get your DT rims tubeless?


 
Posted : 30/03/2017 8:18 pm
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Specs? Smokestone henderson frame, wren forks, hope fatsnos, 2250/710s stx gears, cheapo RF chainset 1x11 (30x11/42) gravity dropper, renthal bars.
Weighs about 36lb.

DT rims went tubeless easily, couple of runs of rim tape, tube to seat one side first, strap around tyre, flash charger & they've stayed up about 2.5 months now


 
Posted : 30/03/2017 10:11 pm
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PX have the fat wheel sets at ~£130, my guess is the link listing 135/197 hubs is Rear Disc Space, while the separate link listing 135/170 hubs is Front Disc Spaced (so would fit the FDS Wazoo fork).

I finally have my On One carbon fork fitted, thanks to the local Giant store that used to be Cycleworld, who fitted a nice shiny Hope integral headset and split crown race for me. Feels great so far! 8)

Yet to try my fat wheelset since the fork was fitted, it does mean I need to transfer the SV13F tube and JJ tyre from the FDS Wazoo front wheel to the RDS Fatty v1 front wheel.


 
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So Planet X sell wheels that don't fit their own Carbon forks? Seems a tad pointless.


 
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really want to buy a dune but can't decide on size I'm 5'9 and normally ride a Med 650b HT - none in stock to try at local store and don't want to order the wrong size - reading through the thread 5'9 could be too tall for the M but slightly short for the L, can anyone help me get some clarity? Thx 🙂


 
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From what I've read, the medium should fit you, the only thing you may have a problem with is the stock seatpost. IIRC, if your cycling inseam is ~31" or less, the stock post will work.

My Wazoo is the 18" frame, I'm ~179cm tall with relatively short ~81cm cycling inseam. Initially, on first 30min+ ride, I found the non-riser bar a bit too low for my weak back. I solved this by fitting a 100mm 35 degree stem, before buying a 35mm Corto stem with the chewy Knuckleball riser bars. With the carbon Fatty fork finally fitted for the last few weeks, I left the longer steerer uncut, to give me plenty of options for how high I want the front end.

Unless you are desperate to upgrade a Dune to a Bluto fork, I think the £400 before BC discount price of the Wazoo is hard to ignore.
You could buy...
http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/FOOOCFATDP/on-one-carbon-fatty-fork
http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/FSPXFCENT/planet-x-carbon-fork-bung-(team-alu-carbon-fatty-fork)

And presumeably this front wheel is Rear Disc Spaced like the carbon fork (although I would definitely recommend getting conformation from them)...
http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/WBFOOEELF/on-one-emmental-rim-with-el-guapo-pro-hub-front-fat-bike-wheel


 
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Thanks n0b0dy0ftheg0at - I like the Dune as it gives the option to Bluto later if I want too, I also have some spares knocking around that I can use to upgrade the brakes and eventually 10 x 1. - I've looked at the Wazoo and was close to getting one @£400 its a steal but think the Dune may be better partner long term. Unfortunately the Dune sizing is very vague and I seem to be right in the middle (5'9 31 inseam) reading the thread I'm guessing I could go Med and put a 400mm seatpost on it or alternately go Lg and get a shorter rech stem... Not sure if there is any difference in the crank length between them. So frustrating that i cant even sit on one at the shop as Oxford Go Outdoors dont stock bikes they only do delivery to store.... :-/


 
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I am leaving the office, right now, to go and pick up my new Wazoo. 🙂


 
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really want to buy a dune but can't decide on size I'm 5'9 and normally ride a Med 650b HT - none in stock to try at local store and don't want to order the wrong size - reading through the thread 5'9 could be too tall for the M but slightly short for the L, can anyone help me get some clarity?

I'm 5'10 and I ride the original medium Dune. My main bike is a large Remedy. On the numbers, I'd definitely say the Dune's too small for me, if I'd had a choice I'd have got the large and still considered it short frankly.

Buuuut, I got the medium because that's all there was at the time, and I wouldn't change it now. I even put a shorter stem on it. It doesn't feel too small just to sit on, and it feels great to ride. Usually shortness has downsides in stability etc, I suppose that goes out the window when you've got 5kg of wheels.

But what I'm working up to here is saying that assumptions and knowledge from normal bikes, might not apply too well to stupid bikes, and that's totally unhelpful for you. Sorry!


 
Posted : 26/04/2017 12:36 pm
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I am now one of you, my chunky wheeled brethren!

Three different people commented on the bike in the 40 feet between the door of Halfords and the car when I picked it up. 🙂


 
Posted : 26/04/2017 1:24 pm
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Congrats! Now go replace those awful Mission Commands! 😆


 
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Congrats! Now go replace those awful Mission Commands

Green Floaters? 😉


 
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