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I currently have a Fox triad on my spesh fsr xc pro. I pretty sure it is to blame for an issue I have with the bike there is a play when the bike us first weighted of around 10 mm ish. It kinda feels Luke bearing play but can't find any. Plus, it is impossible to get the sag right because of this. No matter how much psi goes in it still has this initial movement which means sag is always above 30% . Question is what to replace with? Ideally it would be Fox rp 23 but funds are tight at the mo. Was considering something from rockshox or possibly a suntour just to get the bike rolling. Can't imagine these being very goof though?


 
Posted : 06/12/2013 11:48 am
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new monarchs are very good


 
Posted : 06/12/2013 11:57 am
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+1 for the Monarch's...got the RL version on mine and its very good.


 
Posted : 06/12/2013 12:14 pm
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Fox rp23, cheap from an online supplier. 😉


 
Posted : 06/12/2013 12:15 pm
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Thing is with Christmas coming I'm pretty skint. Max of around 80 quid really so looking at second hand or cheap. I can still use the triad if I'm better waiting till after Christmas but I am concerned that it nay fail alltogether mid ride! Plus I'm not getting all the travel. It took some pretty big hits the other day but never maxed out.,although I have the pressure higher than it should be in an effort to minimise sag


 
Posted : 06/12/2013 12:23 pm
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Not entirely sure what you mean by

"[i]issue I have with the bike there is a play when the bike us first weighted of around 10 mm ish. It kinda feels Luke bearing play but can't find any[/i]"

But are you aware of shock eyelet bushing wear? Might be your cause of that ^^^^^ Maybe?.
For £80 I'd be tempted to spend that on servicing your shock, as any 2nd hand shock you buy will [i]probably[/i] be in need a of service too... Look this friendly [url= http://locotuning.co.uk/fox-racing-shox-service.html ]online supplier/servicing company[/url]* rear shock service only cost £80, though may want a couple of penny more to tune to better fit how you'd like it to work

*Other shock tuning/servicing companies are available


 
Posted : 06/12/2013 1:27 pm
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What z1ppy said. Fair enough if you want to upgrade or try something different, but shocks require servicing occasionally.

With the bike on the ground, gently lift from the back of the saddle. If there is movement before the back wheel leaves the ground then you need new bush eyelets. (assuming the saddle and seatpost are secure)


 
Posted : 06/12/2013 2:09 pm
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I've had the eyelet wear before and replaced with new bushes. It's nit the same this time. No upwards movement and no movement at all with shock locked out. The movement does seem to be within the shock travel. Especially as its preventing me from setting the sag correctly. There is a constant 10-15 mm initial drop regardless of psi . It's like there is a little resistance, then the shock compresses with out any resistance said amount, then encounters normal resistance again and continues through most of travel as normal.


 
Posted : 06/12/2013 4:16 pm
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For the money you have to spend I'd agree with the others who say get it serviced.

or at least talk to some suspension tuners to see if this might point out a common fault and if they can repair it within your budget.


 
Posted : 06/12/2013 4:29 pm
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I 'll drop them an email and see what they say. Only thing bugging me is spending on the triad when it seems from research that they aren't particularly reliable? Might just wait till after Xmas to get a retrograde.


 
Posted : 06/12/2013 5:13 pm
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I can understand your annoyance, but I reckon, only someone with actual experience of servicing the shocks (seeing there guts regularly) will be the best person to help you decide your next course of action. I've found the servicing companies are only too willing to help with advice when asked (TF Tuned, LoCo, J-Tech, even Mojo).


 
Posted : 06/12/2013 6:39 pm
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I've emailed a couple of them, see what they say


 
Posted : 06/12/2013 6:54 pm
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Sounds like your shock is 'stuck down', and needs a service. Definitely service over new, at £80 for a second hand shock you're opening yourself to buying junk.


 
Posted : 06/12/2013 11:38 pm
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I've emailed loco to see what they can do. If they can sort it for 80 all good


 
Posted : 07/12/2013 9:44 am
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It sounds like bushings or maybe the bolts have movement.

I would try and borrow a decent shock and swop it over. See if it solves the issue

If it does, its the shock. If it doesn't look for wear.

Good luck


 
Posted : 07/12/2013 10:22 am
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Yeah I've asked around but none of my riding buddies have one the same size


 
Posted : 07/12/2013 11:13 am
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No matter how much psi goes in it still has this initial movement which means sag is always above 30%

Loose pivots aren't going to cause that. Best bet is what you're doing now OP, popping it in for a service with Mister Loco. He may sound crazy (and he is), but he's a damn nice chap and knows his shocks.


 
Posted : 07/12/2013 12:21 pm