[Closed] Whats wrong with this singlespeed setup?

Are the rings and sprocket SS specific? If they're ramped at all it could be throwing the chain off?

New chain on worn cog and chainring?

Cog and /or chainring not round, or not positioned well (creating tight and loose spots)?

Test it with another chain?

Nothing that I can see. I have the same chainring and rear sprocket on mine. The only thing I have different id [url= http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/CHKMZ510N/kmc_z510_gold_single_speed_chain ]the chain[/url], and I've not and a single issue.

All brand new stuff.
All SS specific.
There's a tiny bit of egg-centricity giving slightly looser/tighter spots on the chain, but no more than usual (rings are rarely perfectly round).

Yep - try a different chain. I had a similar mysterious issue with a Wipperman chain once. Just wasn't happy in the ring/freewheel combo I had (MTB ss). Same chain was fine on another set up (road fixie) when I sued it a few months later.

OK will get another chain and try that, worth another £6 to avoid any more face/road interfaces 🙁

Shame cos an anti-rust chain sounded a damn good idea!

iiiiiinteresting. I just recently installed a new on one 34 ring, ss 17t sprocket. First off a nearly new 9 speed chain - and within a couple of pedal revolutions it was not right.

So replaced with brand new PC1... and exactly the same thing. Chainline wasn't perfect so I tweaked that and the tensioner. It now seems perfect on the stand but yet to actually ride it (this afternoon's ride!).

I'll read comments with interest and feed back my experience later.

Shame cos an anti-rust chain sounded a damn good idea!

It wont be no-rust. Give it a bit of wear and the nickel plating will drop off and or not be thick enough in the first place to prevent patches of rust.

chain too tight?

I had that set-up with but had a 1/8" sram pc1. Chain jumped off frequently.

Swapped to a 3/32" kmc chain and its not dropped once. Don't know why this is, but have stuck to these since - KMC Z610 HX 3/32"

fwiw I have a wide bas ssc sprocket and it is that which is a little bit eggshaped (ring is pretty round and was great with old smaler sprocket): shame really as other wise I would try and put the 'eggs' at right angles to each other to see if it cancels out..) I don't get jumpy-chain on climbs, but it does make worrying creaky cracky noises under heavy load/gurn, and it is hard to get the tension 'just so' if you want longish freehub life and you don't want it rattling off over roots and jumps.

OP, sounds like you know what the chainline should look like, only other thing I would check before an 8-speed (ie narrower) chain is that the teeth on chainring and sprocket are all nice and straight and free of burrs etc. Unlikely as they are new, but I have experienced this (with 1mm of bent tip on a tooth on a ramped chainrings on a geary bike) which only reared its head when the chain was under heavy load.

The SuperStar sprocket I had was severely egged and went back to be replaced by a slightly less egged one which stopped the dropping chain.

Maybe try one of these instead;

http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/SKOOSSGA/on_one_groove_armada_single_speed_sprocket

Not sure if they're any better though!

Thought mine was egged too, but just rode it anyway until it wore out. Now swapped for a surly one. That must be egged too! Or my chainring isn't centred. Anyway - not an issue with either sprocket once I swapped to kmc 3/32" chains.

Also looking at how much 'wobble' my freehub has, i'm not going to worry about a small amount of egging or a non-centred chainring.

I thought the ssame about the 1/8" chain. I'd go 3/32" if none of the other bits are 1/8". less room for rattling.

Spooky, I've got a very similar problem but on my Rohloff set up. 1 x new 16t sprocket and 1 x new izumi track chain. I think the common denominator may be the 1/8" chain on a 3/32" sprocket. I've tightened mine right up and will be heading out for a spin tomorrow AM so if that doesn't work, it'll get binned and swapped for a 3/32" chain.

Try wrapping the chain around the entire cog, both front and rear cogs individually. If it's the right size chain then it will map against the cogs perfectly. Hold the chain tight (obviously easier to do with the parts off the bike) and see if there's any raised spots. Any thing raised in then chain indicates that the teeth are not compatible with your chain dimension.

Some chains are direction specific, though i suspect that only effects shifting, with the text (manu logo) to be send from the outside of the bike.

Re-tight spots, find the tightest part of the chain, slacken off your front ring bolt s a little and then tap the chain (in the tightest spot) with a big screwdriver handle. Re-tighten your bolts individually but opposite to one another a little each at a time.

also - do you know how to calculate your chain line correctly. Don't go by eye, you ideally need callipers to get an accurate measurement.

40mpg you mentioned tight and loose spots. When you're grunting on the pedals frame flex will cause loose spots to become very loose spots. Maybe try a narrower chain that will be held straighter by the teeth on the sprockets. 1/8 chain really needs wider BMX type sprockets to work properly.

Supershite cogs flex like buggery underload I replaced mine with surly for the cheapo bikes and no more problems

Yep sounds like the chain is too wide. I had a repair in the other day and the same was happening. Pedalling it slowly in the workstand you could see the chain riding over to one side of the rear sprocket, then an inner link would catch a tooth and try and jump off. Fitted a 3/32 and it worked fine.

http://surlybikes.com/info_hole/spew/spew_single-speed_drivetrains

TL:DR;

1/2x1/8" chains suck.

The superstar are 3/32 as I guess is the chain ring. Try to use all same, mines all 1 1/8. I use halo fat foot cog and velosolo single speed alloy chain ring with any 1 1/8 chain. Never had a single problem and very strong.

What brakes said. Is the chain too tight? You mention tightening it "right up" but it should have quite a bit of slack, quite baggy.

It's the chain. 1/8" chains are all a bit shit and noisy. Stick a decent 8spd chain on there and it will be all quiet and lovely.

I say 8 speed as they are chamfered to slip onto cogs easily and the plates are thicker hence stronger than 9 or 10 speed chains.

You don't need quite a bit of slack - if you can spin the cranks backwards by hand freely then it's not too tight.
Those Superstar sprockets don't have as good a tooth profile as, say, Surly or Chris King - plus check for a bent tooth on either the sprocket or chainring. Use a KMC Z610HX chain, probably about the best there is, in my opinion.
I can honestly say that during the time that I've been riding singlespeeds I've never had any drivetrain problems - Surly or CK sprockets, KMC chain and Middleburn Uno ( or HBC) chainrings.
I'm not ultra fastidious about chain line or tension either - I just set the chain line by eye and have as little chain slack as possible without any feeling of binding..

Fixed with A KMC 3/32 chain. Running smooth, lesson learned* the hard way 😀

*the lesson being, don't be such a cheapskate