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[Closed] What's the best way to service a Kona frame and how long should it take ?

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I'm sorry, but apart from a couple of rumours by forum members who despite being asked refuse to elaborate on their comments, what evidence has anyone got that Kaesae is handling stolen goods? He seems to be getting a fair amount of stick on here, and I thinks it is mainly down to his face not fitting with the forum clique. I' d suggest that unless anyone has evidence of Kaesae breaking the law the criticism should focus on his rambling (and frequently hilarious) posts.


 
Posted : 23/11/2009 8:47 pm
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Kaesea, for a fella who's trying to build a business, has done a great job of alienating a lot of people. Regardless of his technical abilities, I wouldn't deal with him if he paid me.I'd far rather deal with a reputable business, with someone who isn't liable to go off on one at the drop of a hat.


 
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there's a forum clique? f*ck me, I thought everyone hated/took the piss/generally abused the sh*t out of each other, with the odd useful technical bit of bike assisstance amongst the general banter.

I think the main issue with kaesae is that he behaves like a knobend rather than the fact some accusations have been levelled at him as a suspected reciever of filched frames.

At least he keeps the trolls happy and more goats have made it accross bridges safely (unless they're in cumbria)


 
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This is absolute golddust. Thanks kaesae for enlivening an otherwise boring evening.

I have never in all my years come across anyone boasting about how quickly (and badly judging by the youtube clip) they could do a routine service job.

I would, however, be much more impresed if you learned to spell and gained some grasp of basic grammar!


 
Posted : 23/11/2009 9:55 pm
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sell it and get a single pivot. in the long run thats the way to do it.
joe x


 
Posted : 23/11/2009 9:56 pm
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sell it and but a £5000.00 nichewhoreretrosinglespeedyrolhofhubber29er, that way you can probably offend everyone in one go 😀


 
Posted : 23/11/2009 10:01 pm
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I spent 4hrs with a blind bearing puller set and a 1kg slide hammer just to get the frigging main bearings out. Mind you they were that badly corroded/greaseless that they litterally disintegrated. The new BETD ones that I carefully greased the cups to etc went in in less than five minutes and hopefully will come out in similar fashion.
As for the other pivots etc they were all fine so they are staying put till they fail/develop play.


 
Posted : 23/11/2009 10:10 pm
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He's very good at undoing things isn't he?! Nuts and ermm "bolts". 😆


 
Posted : 23/11/2009 10:15 pm
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what id like to know is how you pronounce kaesae

even his name is confusing

i think he is actually many people, a cunning stw uber troll created by the mods just for amusement,


 
Posted : 23/11/2009 10:16 pm
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The 'strange one' seems to be able to whiz about in his little workshop quite quickly for someone who has trouble walking


 
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I'm sorry, but apart from a couple of rumours by forum members who despite being asked refuse to elaborate on their comments, what evidence has anyone got that Kaesae is handling stolen goods?

I and many others cannot understand what legitimate source of high end suspension frames would supply the number of frames he has access to. Check his e bay - loads of sold frames none bought


 
Posted : 23/11/2009 10:37 pm
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Dear Mr Kaesae... please -
(1) Can you confirm that the frames you are selling on eBay are completely legal? Simples. 🙂
(2) Can you go back to the animal-based insults, cos this new approach is just a bit boring, to be frank.

Yours,
A Craven Rat-Brained Mongrel


 
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The 'strange one' seems to be able to whiz about in his little workshop quite quickly for someone who has trouble walking

considering he has a crippling back problem so to speak, he wouldn't look out of place on an F1 pit team the speed he zips around. i'll post the youtube clip to the local benifit office to see what they think


 
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I'm sorry, but apart from a couple of rumours by forum members who despite being asked refuse to elaborate on their comments, what evidence has anyone got that Kaesae is handling stolen goods? He seems to be getting a fair amount of stick on here, and I thinks it is mainly down to his face not fitting with the forum clique. I' d suggest that unless anyone has evidence of Kaesae breaking the law the criticism should focus on his rambling (and frequently hilarious) posts.

I'm erring to the side of agreeing with that sentiment too.

There's plenty of places you can get frames from. I'm damned certain I could get hold of a fair few and do exactly what Kaesae is doing. That said, I seem to collect free/very cheap wheels better than frames. Once people know you're a bit handy with a spoke key, it's amazing what comes your way from mates, STWers and all sorts of places. Yes, I've made a profit on wheels just as Kaesae is doing with frames....
Why should he have to say where the frames are coming from?
If I got a good source of weeks, I wouldn't let the vultures on here know, that's for sure
Nobody's been able to track down if any of them ARE stolen, which for STW is rather amazing (And depressing at the same time) I think, so I'm going to give the bloke a break and the benefit of the doubt. Innocent until proven guilty methinks.

As for popping his cork a few times, well, plenty of us have done that on here, myself included, and it's no crime......

Kaesae, if you're reading this, just one bit of advice if I may? Chill out a bit, stop with the swearing and ignore the doubters and bullies. They only carry on because you keep giving them a reaction. Less is more chap, less is more....

I'll be interested in the Kona servicing too. My wife has a King Kikapu and one day I'll have to do the job too. 🙂


 
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Strange, strange thread. Hmm.

Not sure I understand the direction.

Agree with an earlier comment - very creepy youtube vid.

Still take allsorts.

**Pulls up chair, opens hob nobs and waits for development**


 
Posted : 24/11/2009 10:56 am
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I and many others cannot understand what legitimate source of high end suspension frames would supply the number of frames he has access to. Check his e bay - loads of sold frames none bought

If this is the only reason this guy is getting [b]SOOO[/b] much grief, that's pretty cr@p.

I think the guy should be given the benefit of the doubt. Innocent until proven guilty maybe?


 
Posted : 24/11/2009 11:06 am
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This is a good, pass the hobnobs letmetalktomark. 😛


 
Posted : 24/11/2009 11:09 am
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thom yorke has got some kona skillz


 
Posted : 24/11/2009 1:11 pm
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Anyone want to discuss this subject feel free to join my thread. Criticizers you have TV’s if you want to do that and the only time you waste is your own, as it should be. Constructive input or be ignored, let’s see if we can learn something for those of us that love working on bikes .

your new here then?
welcome.

and as its a kona, my suggestion is:

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anyone got a radiotimes to hand?


 
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This is a good, pass the hobnobs letmetalktomark.

Certainly squire but they are the dark chocolate ones 😆

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One Hunderd!

EDIT
Rats. Missed it by 1. 🙁


 
Posted : 24/11/2009 1:15 pm
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surely stripping down a kona, to any degree, is EXACTLY the same as any other bike?

Allen keys, counter clockwise makes them come out, clockwise makes them go in.

drift out the bearings in whatever way you see fit.

how is it different from one of the billions of trances kaesae is selling?


 
Posted : 24/11/2009 1:22 pm
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how is it different from one of the billions of trances kaesae is selling?

Konas have these fiddly little top-hat bushes on some pivots, rather than bearings like a Trance


 
Posted : 24/11/2009 1:23 pm
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Perfect, I thought they had stopped making them (that's dark chocolate hobnobs,not Konas)


 
Posted : 24/11/2009 1:35 pm
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Don't tell me show me. Hot air, noise and balloons but you haven't shown me anything. What are you good for ?. What skills do you have.


 
Posted : 24/11/2009 6:57 pm
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kaesae - if you are confident in your abilities, which you appear to be, then it matters not what others think. Just crack on as you are.

no-one wins fights on the internet, sometimes the biggest thing to do is just accept an argument cannot be won and agree to disagree.

incidentally - have you ever considered opening a proper workshop to use your skills more commercially?


 
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Hey thebikechain if I don't poke them from time to time they stop chasing their tails and I like them better when they chase them. Gives everybody else some peace the rats get exercise and I quite enjoy it, so everybody wins.


 
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Olly does your face have a toilet roll holder attached ?


 
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oh dear god he's back just not as angry,funny or sweary as last time oh well take allsorts s'pose quick question Keasae do you have any engineering qualifcations not trying to be funny just asking?


 
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(Once I tune them there worth money before hand there sh1t. I am willing to prove that I’m a better frame servicing technician than any of the fools criticizing me. My frames are the best you’ll get for the money. So don’t tell me show me, This aint the TV and talk don’t count for sh1t here in the real world.)
god this made me laugh.
does this fool know who,s on the stw.


 
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tax man ?


 
Posted : 24/11/2009 11:37 pm
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I still don't understand how you tune a frame. Do you shave bits off to suit the rider or do you just change the bearings? I'd love to be able to tune mine to make it go faster uphill and stick to the ground better on off camber bends. Does it need more paint?


 
Posted : 24/11/2009 11:47 pm
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[i]I still don't understand how you tune a frame.[/i]

You replace the suspension forks with tuning forks, obviously!
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One important thing to remember is that you can tune a frame but you can't tuna fish... 😉


 
Posted : 25/11/2009 9:49 am
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I am suprised he has time to post on here as well as write the scripts for the after-watershed compare the meerkat adverts.


 
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"What are you good for ?. What skills do you have."
Well, first of all, I can spell. Secondly, I'm a registered psychiatric nurse, which, when dealing with you, is a bonus. Finally, I'm true to myself and others, and I don't try to enhance my ego by selling overpriced tat on e'bay and convince others that I'm being altruistic. Take more Procyclidine with it Kaesae.


 
Posted : 25/11/2009 3:12 pm
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Procyclidine...Is that not a roadie mag?


 
Posted : 25/11/2009 3:24 pm
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What are you good for ?. What skills do you have.

I'm mainly good at criticizing 🙂


 
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I never spotted the similarity, but you know, I think you might be right. Kaesae - where are you getting your frames from? If you've nothing to hide, 'fess up and quell the suspicions.


 
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1. Barnsleymitch psychiatric as in the people who brought us shock therapy and dope anyone who disagrees with the government or is different up to their eye balls. How many of the people you treat get better and how much money do you make for the Pharmaceutical
Companies each year. They wouldn't need psychiatric nurses if it wasn't for people like you and your idiotic attitudes. What do you get when you cross a pointless way of life hypercritical fools that turn day to day living into psychological warfare and overpriced incompetent care. Psychiatric nurses or psychiatrists and phsycologists to name but a few of the governments useless lackies.


 
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I'm just going to leave this here


 
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Barnsleymitch Procyclidine how much do you want for it ? and should you really be trying to sell it ?. Anyone interested in a lobotomy barnsleymitch is the man to see and if your car won't start he can help with that as well ZAPP!!!.


 
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1. Barnsleymitch psychiatric as in the people who brought us shock therapy and dope anyone who disagrees with the government or is different up to their eye balls. How many of the people you treat get better and how much money do you make for the Pharmaceutical
Companies each year. They wouldn't need psychiatric nurses if it wasn't for people like you and your idiotic attitudes. What do you get when you cross a pointless way of life hypercritical fools that turn day to day living into psychological warfare and overpriced incompetent care. Psychiatric nurses or psychiatrists and phsycologists to name but a few of the governments useless lackies.

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Are you a cpn in Barnsley, Mitch?
My practice is in hoyland,
Shall we have him sectioned, do you think?
Clearly psychotic. Delusional disorder. A risk to others- selling overpriced knock off tat on ebay, and to himself if he carries on like this. I'll bring the paperwork if you like! 😉


 
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I am sorry kaeseeieaeieae, I don't wish to offend you, but you are coming across as a little highly strung.

YOU need to concentrate on getting your business off the ground. And of course recovering so you can walk. Really try to avoid destroying any Faith anyone has in your company. Especially by posting your fantastic political ramblings.

My sugestion would be thay when you Experience any Negative feelings Towards you Allow it to pass you buy and do not Let it Nudge you Over the edge of a Waterfall. Finally there are no Universal Conspiricy theories its just Karma Overload.

Finally keep the Faith brother


 
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And just when did I say I was selling procyclidine Kaesae? I merely suggested you take more of it. And yes, I like nothing better than performing leucotomies, and absolutely adore giving electro - convulsive therapy - when I'm not still living in the 1950's, that is.


 
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And of course recovering so you can walk.

i'm sure he's quite capable have you seen the speed he zips around his workshop in the youtube video


 
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Enjoy


 
Posted : 26/11/2009 1:31 pm
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How on earth did a thread about fixing [s]stolen[/s] broken bikes turn into an analysis of depressive disorders?!
kaesae, if you do indeed have a knackered back, it'll be the weight of that enormous chip you're carrying on your shoulder about the NHS and the state of the world in general...


 
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point proven I think


 
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Sorry Kaesae, but I'm not American. I work in forensic psychiatry - if what I do is such a waste of time, how about volunteering to rehome some of the patients I look after with you? It's easy to point the finger, but when you come up with some alternatives (that didn't come out of the end of a crack pipe), then lets chat!


 
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The sacriest thing about this is that to read kaesae's ramblings you would think he is some mad old guy who lives in a caravan and smells of p1ss. Quite disturbing that he's such a young bloke.

You do look a lot like Thom Yorke mate


 
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Psychotic nurses don't give there drugs away surely. So how much will it cost me. Obviously to take it I have to have it since you can get it I assumed that was an offer. Can you also get me a free straight jacket and weekend in a padded cell I'll get my pogo stock out and body armour ?. Your the man barnsley you and the good DOCTOR robster. As for over priced crap I would think your the ones that are experts at selling that. Let's see a photo of you guys in your uniforms what colours are they.


 
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I'm a psychiatric nurse, not a psychotic nurse - interesting choice of terms there Kaesae. Oh, and sorry, I only wear my uniform for love play.


 
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OT:How do you do that thing with making it look like you've crossed a word out?
It's quite an impressive trick that improves the posts pretty well.

Back on topic: Knowing the family of a young schizophrenic who has been convicted of rape and murder, and who were too scared to see him when he was released from custody, for fear of further attacks, I also would like to her Kaesae's suggestions for what to do when the criminal justice system decides they are too ill for prison.


 
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kaesae
you're trying to make out that the frames you sell are better than new, they have had hours of work put into them i.e. bending the rear end to strighten it out, rattle canning the frames with a "better than new" finish. "oiling" the shock (oil??) water proofing the bearings and bushings? removing the "angry donkey" from the frame.

putting it simply, this video sums it all up

on a side note. the correct fork/shock fluid must be used not common household/engine oil. a memeber of my family works for a major fork/shock tuner's,importers and a set of forks came back with 50mm of brasso in the lowers as the user kept applying it to thier wornt stanasion as they thought it'd remove the scratches 😯


 
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Jeez - How glad am I that I didn't buy that Heckler frame off this moron earlier this year 😀


 
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Jeez - How glad am I that I didn't buy that Heckler frame off this moron earlier this year

the one with the huge gear cable [s]angle grinder cut mark[/s]rub mark on the top tube?


 
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Actually greeble, I think you'll find that was a hoof mark caused by the angry donkey. You people! So much cynicism!


 
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No, he had another for sale back near the beginning of the year I very nearly bought.
Nice & warm to ride apparently 😉


 
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just noticed one massive error with this frame
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140357904439
the shock is mounted wrong, this will cause the shock to smash into the downtube to full compression, maybe he thought it was a kona frame he was rebuilding


 
Posted : 26/11/2009 4:36 pm
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Some of you sad morons really are getting boring now


 
Posted : 26/11/2009 4:42 pm
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kaeseae - curious, what technique do you use to weather proof your bearings?


 
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i just discovered this, so funny it hurts the loon is back!

i like the way he wont confirm his frames aren't stolen, would be the obvious thing to do

greaat to see his crippling back diability has cleared up as well, he can get back to kick boxing now!

Love the way he slags the NHS off, hope he gets ill soon and needs thier help (other than the mental help he needs now).

kaesae, so are the frames nicked? pressumably you are happy to supply frame numbers so purchasers can checked its not stolen before buying?


 
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Seems like there is a pack mentality here sometimes.


 
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Thebikechain how many of you have access to this acount/username ?


 
Posted : 26/11/2009 6:14 pm
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2 of us. Mainly me that uses it though.

Why?


 
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Thebikechain Just like to know who I'm talking too. If you want to talk bikes email me.


 
Posted : 26/11/2009 6:59 pm
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I see.


 
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Docrobster you do [s]this [/s] by hitting the s button above next to url

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EDIT: Kaesae did some weird unintelligible ramble about Barnlsely mitch dressing up for love play [ I dont think he realised it was a joke~} and then slagged off mental health profeesionals /services in a fairly uncomprehensible way. He may have been let down by them in the past?


 
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[s]oh I see, obvious really[/s]
thanks
why has kaesae deleted that last post?


 
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[i]why has kaesae deleted that last post? [/i]

Maybe he realised it made sense or was spelt correctly... 😉


 
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"why has kaesae deleted that last post?"
Now I'm intrigued (and also a little scared)!
P.S Where'd you get those frames?


 
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I wouldn't worry Mitch I read it and it wasn't that threatening.
I too get the feeling he is a little bitter after previous experiences of health services.
Sorry about that Kaesae, but please don't tar us all with the same brush. You may find it hard to believe but most of us do this sort of work cos we want to help people.
Inevitably not everyone appreciates the nhs, but it's a lot better than most country's healthcare systems.


 
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Has anyone else Googled "kaesae"?


 
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Yeah, did it after the last, mammoth thread he was involved in - (see 'what's this joker on about' elsewhere on this forum) you're in for a treat if you havent already read it.


 
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yes mitch it was just more gibberish it was hard to tell but some rambling owhy you dressed in your uniform something about straight [ I mean strait] jackets, the drugs not working ...just gibberish really not to his usual standard of threats/gibberish incomprehension...did have same poor spelling though.


 
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