What goes through peoples heads? Cycling to school with kids.

Can you get cameras fitted to your bikes for future rides? This is worthy of sending to the police.
I'm seeing more and more children cycling to school, but you have to trust the idiots in charge of tons of metal to be careful drivers.

Glad you're all safe.

Nothing. Nothing goes through their heads. That's the problem. 

Someone in a works flatbed transit

I’m going to guess that recreational coke goes through their head mainly.

Console yourself in the knowledge that he’s clearly one of life’s utter bell ends. He will go through life being angry and miserable.

I hope your wee girl isn’t put off riding her bike…

When you say "works flatbed", was there any brand or company name on it? (Or just a general builder?) Maybe worth a call to the business transport manager if the former

Recreational coke

is there another type?

is there another type?

Well, in some industries it's definitely entering into the professional world...

Me, Me, Me, Me etc etc - that's all that goes through their heads.

Just remind yourself that they need 'permission' to be on the road, you don't.

My little girl was fine :), thankfully she didn’t realise he was beeping at us as she had already turned into school. It was my wife who was upset, quite shaken and doesn’t want us to ride to school again. Hopefully she will be fine about it when she feels a bit more relaxed. 

There is nothing between their ears mostly, other than clouds of weed smoke !

Mrs BC had one of those last week. Some numbnuts couldn't be bothered to wait so accelerated hard past her, two other cars and then the cohort of road cyclists ahead of them, into a blind bend. Literally only just made the bend and was pulling in as an oncoming car came around the bend.

Also, and no logical reason why it should, but getting irrationally frustrated by the number of cyclists in our town who seem to think it's fine to ride up a one way street the wrong way. And it's not as if there are no alternatives. Carry on up the road you were on for another 300 metres, cycle up the connecting road and you'll arrive at the same point. Oh, and the increasing number of fully grown adults riding on the pavements...

I don't know what to say!

This kind of behaviour just makes me very sad. I don't know what you do about it, but I am sorry someone has treated you and your family in this way.

Mrs BC had one of those last week. Some numbnuts couldn’t be bothered to wait so accelerated hard past her, two other cars and then the cohort of road cyclists ahead of them, into a blind bend. Literally only just made the bend and was pulling in as an oncoming car came around the bend.

This, I reckon is linked to this...

Oh, and the increasing number of fully grown adults riding on the pavements…

Oh, and the increasing number of fully grown adults riding on the pavements…

the behaviour described above and this are not unrelated though. Tbg if they are pootling along in a relaxed fashion this isn't really a problem.

There needs to be a mass culling!
My boy rode his bike to school every day for 5 years. Crossing a dual carriageway at a pedestrian crossing, woman opens her window and shouts "You shouldn't be riding a bike on there"!! Holy shit - a kid in a school uniform should be riding on the dual carriageway?? Is it to give her something to aim at? If he'd got her reg plate I wouldn't tracked her down!!
(Yes, it's something that makes me a little angry)

Nothing

Can you get cameras fitted to your bikes for future rides? This is worthy of sending to the police.

in my opinion this is a bad idea. If you think the driving is regularly-enough bad enough to report\record worthy, don't send your kids out in it.

is there another type?

In my defence I’m used to commercial quantities, so anything under a kilo is just recreational shizzle

in my opinion this is a bad idea. If you think the driving is regularly-enough bad enough to report\record worthy, don’t send your kids out in it.

Yep, leave the roads for the drivers to do as they please. What were you thinking encouraging your children to ride bikes and be healthy??

What we need is a critical mass!

Not to cower at home afraid of the half whitted.

Drivers need to think if they need to overtake cyclists. How many times have you been overtaken to have the car turn off after a few hundred metres.

in my opinion this is a bad idea. If you think the driving is regularly-enough bad enough to report\record worthy, don’t send your kids out in it.

What if its not regular but they might want something to produce if such am incident happens again?

If more cyclists had cameras this shit would be nipped in the bud.

On one of my 10 mile fast loops I have 5 blind corners. I don't think I have ever done a ride on that route without being overtaken at least once on a blind corner. But no, I don't know what is going through their heads but guessing they just don't really care and just don't really consider another car coming the other way.

Nothing occurs to them other than thier right to travel the roads in thier car at the speed they declare as acceptable.

My finest one was a car trying to cut into a line of 15 kids cycling as a peloton out of a blind junction- with me stood in the middle of the lane on my bike to 'protect' the 10-15 seconds it took for the kids and other leaders to set off. I ended up being pushed and shoved by the driver while he and wife declared they had grandkids and so would never harm a child - but her demeanor changed from fighting to hiding when I asked her to imagine that the last child was her grandson...the driver meanwhile carried on shouting at me and then tailgated my bike for the 1km down into the village...

Yep, leave the roads for the drivers to do as they please. What were you thinking encouraging your children to ride bikes and be healthy??

Sorry to say but I don't ride with my kids either anymore. In fact I've stopped riding on the roads myself. Most drivers are fine, but it only takes one idiot, and there are plenty of idiots around.
Even if the stats show relatively few people actually injured/killed, the actual experience of it is stressful and unpleasant.

Driving culture is so entrenched and normalised, I just dont' see it changing anytime soon and I'm not using my kids to police the drivers.

+1 for 'Nothing in between the ears' and +1 for 'get a Camera'

Had a flat bed almost squish me with his trailer due to pure 'MUST GET IN FRONT'  impatience a month or so ago. Contractors' logo on the side.

Contacted the company with exact details of the vehicle, the number plate, time and location and received a fairly comprehensive apology from the driver's line manager with assurances that the driver had received a written warning.

Obviously I don't know if this was true or just a way to make me go away, but still, report it where you can.

If you get a number plate and a description of the vehicle and ideally the driver then call the police non-emergency number and report dangerous driving, if they're doing it to you they'll be doing it everywhere.

works flatbed transit

There's your problem. Angry Sun-reading knuckledragger from the local sink estate most likely.

Yep, leave the roads for the drivers to do as they please. What were you thinking encouraging your children to ride bikes and be healthy??

you think the incident earlier encouraged the kid to ride their bike and be healthy? Making a point is fine, but not when it comes to the detriment of the health or safety of your kids, which, if this kinda thing happens often, is the case.

On the flipside I've called two drivers a c*** recently in front of their kids on the school run when they've decided to wind down the window and shout some friendly advice at me for cycling.

I really have just reached a point of just not giving a on the road, and I'm not going to stop riding and stay at home.

The thing that dissapoints me the most is that i see friends and people i respect joining in cyclist hating vitriol on Faceyak.  I have tried to engage in the past to point out how disgusting their comments are but it always falls on deaf ears.

I have people who i have known for 30+yrs who i wont talk to anymore because of their views on cyclists.  Take the time to see how 'normal' people turn into monsters when it comes to overtaking a 5 yr old child on her way to school on a bicycle.  They do not deserve to be your friends.

In fact I’ve stopped riding on the roads myself

I haven't, and neither has my son. Even all those years trudging to school and back haven't put him off.

I'm afraid to say that the last person to try and overtake me and my daughter on a too narrow road with a blind crest got handed their ripped off wing mirror

Not proud of it, but I hope they learnt a ****ing lesson.

This kind of thing makes me so angry.

Everyone should have cameras and the legal punishment should be anything between a short driving ban at the lower end to being dragged out of the vehicle and having some sense beaten into them at the top end

And then a lifetime ban.

Ok, maybe that's a little strong.

One of the worst I had was flying down a hill on the bike with my 2yo son in the backseat, only to be overtaken and immediately left hooked by a (surprise) builder's van, necessitating a panicking emergency stop and a very close call. Driver got out to have a go at me (!) and said he was in the right "because he was indicating".

The mind boggles.

Even assuming that gave instant right of way, how on earth was I meant to see when he came from behind? But no, he was in the right. Of course.

he was in the right “because he was indicating”

Yep, I've heard that one before! Morons!

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is there another type?

In my defence I’m used to commercial quantities, so anything under a kilo is just recreational shizzle

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I don't agree that there is nothing going through their heads- I think its whatever cycling related rage-bait they have consumed on social media and the tabloid media that is, in their minds, giving them licence to act like that. For this reason, they will also 100% think they are in the right and you are 100% in the wrong for being there, with zero reflection on any of it.

I honestly think most people, if left to largely form their own opinion or feelings on something would probably have pretty much zero feeling on cyclists either way- other than maybe occasionally being mildly irked when stuck behind one for a while (fair enough).

I think the nature of media and social media today though has turbo-charged the kind of thoughts and feelings that people barely knew they had, or wouldn't have had, if it weren't for being saturated with targeted rage-bait for it, on a daily basis.

I guess this applies to many things but you really notice/feel it as a cyclist when it transmutes into close passes and verbal abuse.

@Duggan that’s about right, we know when we look around the world, it really doesn’t have to be like that!

Jason Kenny - A cyclist of the highest respect in our country was almost knocked off his bike a few years ago, this was while towing his first child. I remember him talking about it on the telly. As above, the loathing for people who cycle no matter what age is appalling.

Quite a few cyclists who are International level have been injured by cars.

scary isn't it, we walk our kids because its just to dodgy to let them ride.  And its not just your 'white van' man, its also other parents who you would think would know better, parking on double yellows, blocking the road whilst they drop off, opening doors without looking etc...

I'm one of those adults who takes to the pavement on occasion.  Mostly its for safety reasons.  yesterday it was because several cars overtook to gain a few metres before a junction and then deliberately moved over to block passage whilst they sit at the red light so you can't get into the bike box at the front

yesterday it was because several cars overtook to gain a few metres before a junction and then deliberately moved over to block passage whilst they sit at the red light so you can’t get into the bike box at the front

Mmm... while I get the sentiment... but then you have ridden on the pavement just in order to gain a few metres, and now you're sitting right in front of someone who you not only know/presume is anti-cyclist, or at the very least oblivious to their surroundings, but is also now extra annoyed at seeing you go on the pavement to get around him.
I prefer to keep that kind of driver in front of me where I can see and avoid them...

Cheap camera from chillitech or similar, it's the only thing stopping me commit murder these days.

I'm reaching the point where I'm going to equip both my kids with cameras.  Neither has been in astronomic danger but it's just a constant higher grade of unnecessary risk that they're exposed to everyday and there are a few a year who seem to deserve reporting.
The eldest (14) solo road rides and generally doesn't have many issues while road cycling despite riding at the pace of and being the size of an adult.   He has good road craft and we pick routes together that should minimise the likelihood of conflict and close passes.  He's not immune to stupid but we do try and manage the risk down as best we can.

I don't often do political on here but I am disappointed by the shift back towards a car centric transport narrative.  It emboldens drivers to drive badly and reinforces entitlement.