I have just bought a bike that i feel will be a classic retro price climber. Its a gamble i know, but not only that the bike i have chosen to bubble wrap, is and I have to say, in my eyes, the best looking bike on the planet.
Been after the right one for a few years now, and they are super rare!!!
Anyway be a good idea to post up what you think will be a price climber!!!
Its been done with Cars and lots of other stuff, and im sure there is investments in some bikes, so lets post them up!!!
i dont see how a bike can become 'collectable'.
no matter who built it, or rode it.
bikes are bikes designed for riding, mtb's are designed to be thrashed about offroad............simple.
sorry if this is not what you wanted to hear.
So, is that the case with Ferrari, Porsche, Ford, stamps, train sets, Pens, thimbles!! damn shall i go on.
Well........what have you got?
Just to add i have 11 other bikes, that i Thrash and are very good high end bikes, none of which will be a classic or collectible!!
ton - Member
i dont see how a bike can become 'collectable'.
no matter who built it, or rode it...
Mmmm, a mint Golden Sunbeam, an original Dursley-Pedersen, a 60/70s Flying Scot, original Moulton in unused condition.
I'd be tempted by any of them.
Seems pretty pointless to me. Bike's a bike, just ride it.
So, let us out of suspense, tell us what this bike you think is an investment actually is.
I struggle to see a bike being a worthwhile financial investment though.
Christ i had to google them!!!!
Not quite a mountain bike though!!!
pretty much agree as above but what about
ibis silk
ibis bow full suss thingy
merlin newsboy
but all where expensive to start with
seriuosly, say a bike cost's £3k now
would you pay £10k for it in 10yrs?
Great topic - I reckon anything that exhibits breakthroughs that remain current today or was a "game changer" at the time it came out. If I had to pick a few - which i would i'd go: -
Intense M3
Fat Chance Yo Eddie
Old Joe Murray Kona
I think I'd rather spend cash on new bikes though!
personally no, but ibis seem to have a keen following and bring a lot, a collectors item for 10k John Tomac bike signed and verified????
There's no way you'd get back what you paid for a bike. You might get a bit more than a "normal" bike, but we'd be talking about getting back 40% rather than 25%.
Skinny dusters?
Original blue pig? 😛
ton - Member
seriuosly, say a bike cost's £3k now
would you pay £10k for it in 10yrs?
Ton, you need to look at some of the prices that really good Kleins are fetching these days.
For me, though, it'll be from this lot
Early Saracen
Early Overbury's
Original Pace RC100
Mountain Cycle San Andreas MkI
Original as you can get Brompton
Why are you reluctant to reveal more detail of your "investment"?
Are you concerned people may disagree?
Very tough to predict what might be collectable in 20 years...very little of today's stuff IMO, nothing stands out.
My 92 Prometheus is in the loft though.
So Bobba Fatt, WHY
I was going to state something silly!!!
there are loads out there, old and still command loads of cash, look at some BMX bikes, Redline, PK Ripper, Skyway, Firebird, DP Freestyler and shall i mention the Chopper!!
Try getting one of those for under £500 quid, and only about £150 new, a Chopper was £45!!!
FFS! Tell us what you've bought!
Old skate decks go for a lot so its not a crazy idea, I would rather spend the cash on new stuff though but then I don't like collecting things. I think bike design has maybe levelled out a bit now so maybe ten years from now our current bikes will look pretty good. At least not as homemade as some 90s suspension designs - what were they thinking!
before the recession one of these would of cost ya between $7,000 and $10,000
i've seen jordan 1s go for more...
lots of people with to much money!
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Well i have 2 really, a MK 2 Cannondale Super V Raven 4000sx Works!!
A very rare bike when new.
And, You may laugh, but i also have a Porsche FS Evolution!!
Your thought??
No amount of double exclamation marks will save those two.....!
😉
one person's classic is another person's ****ing horrible........ 😉
That is True!! and some times that is exactly what it requires.
A friend had one of those, couldn't get £1000 for it, full XTR, old school Crossmax. Awesome bike in it's time, just seriously dated. Can't see that being a money maker, but hey ho!
I rode a flying Scot (think it might have been 1950s one tho) as my only roadbike for about 5 years in the '90s, had original Campag kit on too.a 60/70s Flying Scot
it was given to me to train on by the original owner, he probably still has it. great bike, pity decent tyres were so hard to find.
Like i said, its a tough call, but i does help being your all time favorite bike. Bonus is it is still usable!!
The Porsche bike is on another level though, i have had so many offers on it!!
It was made by Storck and they are the best money can buy.
Mostly bikes only become worth money when they've been ridden to victory in spectacular fashion by a super classy rider. If you're just wrapping up some frame you've just bought it'll have to be either extremely rare or have Ferrari written on it a lot to appeal to the parvenu Chinese. oh, and obviously anything ever ridden or looked at by lalaman.
sorry to just poach this straight from another thread but it's a fair contender..
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I think with mountainbikes it'll have to be something unique to the actual bike you have and not just 'that' bikes rarity.
Usually bikes that are collectible have some kind of provenance or were perhaps built by partisan builders that had a history in the sport as oppossed to a factory built machine regardless of whose name is stickered on the frame.
Obviously there will always bikes that buck the trend, the two already mentioned are the two that sprung to my mind - Fat Chance and Kliens.
The one i have was Dales Press bike and Prototype, 00Works serial number.
I post a piccie when i get a chance.
It was made by Storck and they are the best money can buy.
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Yes!
without question!
I have a couple of old Mountain bikes,one i might break even on..a 1995 kona Hahanna,the other is a sunn 5000r from 1996,dispite the good condition i don`t feel it will never reach rrp.
The best bike i had for profit was a Raliegh Pro burner which sold for a bonkers £750! Eeek.
Nice one, i had a Pro Burner best looking BMX with the Skyways, that was untill i bought a Redline RL20.
I still have it, Harry Learly Turbo 3 piece cranks, Woody Hitson freestyle bars, Gold Araya 7x'S. Worth a bomb now!!
yunki - Member
sorry to just poach this straight from another thread but it's a fair contender..
Thanks for that 🙂
I've also got this - Titanium Pompino - think it's the only one
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This one is also unique, but I doubt it's collectable (even if it is the world's only fixed folding recumbent Penny Farthing)
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and this
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and this - only made for 1 year (Dahon Groove)
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plus a few others...
(including an original Moulton and a Flying Scot)
Bobba......mmmm,Diamond back Harry Leary turbo...or even a Silver Streak!
I've one of the original merlin mountains complete with wtb rollercam brakes and press fit bearings which in the early nineties used to make most of the top ten mountain bikes lists.
Can't say I'd ever thought of it as collectable though. I still use it pretty often, although it's become used as more of a commuter / tourer in recent years. Actually I'd probably get stoned by retro bikers for keeping the components as current and functional as possible.
supreme sticker makes that worth 10x
Trailstar?
BFe might become a classic long travel hardtail.
dirtyrider - Member
supreme sticker makes that worth 10x
who said anything about it being worth it? just some people have more money than sense 😐
made by brooklyn for supreme, maybe 10 made. most of them will never have been ridden 😥
Storck, the best money can buy? What? You're clearly delusional, so I'm going to ignore everything you say.
That Porsche bike was the biggest heap of shit ever.
And, [b]You may laugh[/b], but i also have a Porsche FS Evolution!!
You got that bit spot on.
Storck, the best money can buy? What? You're clearly delusional, so I'm going to ignore everything you say.That Porsche bike was the biggest heap of shit ever
+1
I sold my Robinson BMX and some old knackered Skyways for about 5 times the original value on Ebay, couldnt believe it.
Psychle will no doubt be along shortly!
I'm sticking with my Trek DH Pro [b][i]investement[/i][/b], which as well as being made in very limited numbers and ridiculously expensive, is also one of the ugliest (if not the ugliest) bike ever made.
The Porsche is a donkey but should have non bike Porsche owners reaching for their wallet. The dale is collectable to an extent but is still mainstream so won't rise to the giddy prices being seen for Kleins and the like.
Storck, the best money can buy? What? You're clearly delusional, so I'm going to ignore everything you say.That Porsche bike was the biggest heap of shit ever
+1
also as YoKaiser says a cannondale, no matter how 'rare' will never be worth big bucks, because in the grand scheme of things it isn't actually that rare, how many were made? 5,000? more? In much the same way that a first pressing of Sgt. peppers lonely hearts will never be worth mega money cause there are millions of them.
A lot of people say that my bike is a classic and they may be right but it by no means collectable or definitely not an investment. Its not even old but classic designs don't have to be do they.
Its an 06 Enduro BTW.
what about the new generation belt drives?
I think the big money will be in early hand built stuff done in ltd no's or high end stuff we dreamed about and maybe couldn't afford at the time
Reckon the original D.O.G.S B.O.L.X and Attitude were nice looking bikes that will appreciate, same with early Paces, Funks, Mtn Goats, Serrotta Tmax was afantastic looking bike...My old Fuquay is pretty sweet too 😉
Retro road & BMX bikes are seriously collectable and it is natural that MTB will follow. I recently sold a rusted old MRD bmx for £375 it cost £330 in 1984. Someone will rechrome it etc and it will look as good as it did when I first sat on it.
One thing that strikes me though is if you want to rebuild a show bike of any make you need NOS parts or as near to NOS and then you are talking £100+ for old pedals, bars, cranks etc etc. So buy small & cheap early shimano, pauls components, avid, smoke & dart and sell at the right time. Sounds easy to me.
I used to ride a Giant MCM-D 990. It's a circa 1997 carbon fibre full suspension frame, which I got off ebay as a built up bike for something like £500 about 8-10 years ago now. I've since retired it but I still have the (slightly knackered) frame in my garage somewhere. I always wondered if it would be worth anything due to its rarity...
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I just had a look at that Porsche bike, ugh!
I've seen nicer Apollos in Halfords.
Still, people might pay top dollar because of the name, but as they say, money can't buy taste.
In much the same way that a first pressing of Sgt. peppers lonely hearts will never be worth mega money cause there are millions of them.
Actually the first mono presses of Sgt Pepper are pretty rare... one in mint condition with all the cutouts and suchlike fetches hundreds despite there being thousands sold.
this is my 1930's Raleigh sport
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Psychle will no doubt be along shortly!
Hello 🙂 . I do consider this purchase an investment of sorts:
Original 'retro' build:
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Current more modern build (actually being used!):
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Granted I picked this up for a decent price, paid around the same for the full build as folk seem to be paying for the frame only, but even so, I'd still be reasonably confident something like this would hold it's value or even hopefully 'appreciate' a bit over time...
As an example of an actual investment, I managed to make a 40% return on a NOS Ibis Mojo frame, try and make that on the stock market or a savings account 😉
Hmmmm... Bikes that are "Wrapped up in bubble wrap and stored in an attic" as an investement. How tragically sad.. 😕
Pretty much every one of my seven bikes I - somewhat whimsically - envisage as being a 'future classic'. I'll probably never sell any of them. They range from 1997 provenance to 2009. This doesn't stop me riding every single one of them to this day though. It's the whole point..
I bought and refurbished an Intense M! - purely as a fun lil project, as it is/was something of a classic.
I'm a bit of a grease-monkey.
Looks box-fresh now - and in need of building up if anyone fancies a new toy!
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Its turned into a great debate!!
Its clear ugly bikes have a following, and i agree that Ibis is great and will be worth money, but my god, "Fugly" and i like it!!
The Porsche maybe a name, but they are Crap and rare, which in turn makes them desiable (well to Porsche car owners)
I also stand by my statement after having owned possibly every high end bike, Storck are the best in every way, Build, Looks, ride, handling and traction. Those who disagree have never owned one.
I have a Rebel Carbon and a Carbon Adrenalin, they are wonderful.
None of which will be classic by the way!!!
Oh and that M1 want to sell it!!!
Hey Boba Fett!
I do indeed want to sell it!
Takes 9m QR, or 10mm or 12mm thru-axle.
Comes with 10mm & 12mm adaptors, and 12mm axle.
Spare complete decal kit (yellow) and head-tube badge.
All new ABEC-5 bearings fitted.
My email is in my profile, and I'm based in Ealing, West London.
Cheers - Rick
I own two Bontrager Races (one built up & one, er, curated).
Though by no means as "classic" as an ol' Whiskeytown Racer, Yo Eddy etc, they still represent (to me) everything that was/is great about American steel bike design & fabrication... but more to the point, they are bludy great to ride. I can imagine putting things of a certain vintage/significance in a [url= http://museumofmountainbikeartandtechnology.blogspot.com/ ]museum[/url] (link to the excellent MOMBAT site), but I'd still insist on ragging 'em around the woods...
lol @ Storck