The nominees for this category
1) lapierre spicy
2) santa cruz heckler
3) Orange alpine
4) commencal 666
5) other
and the winner is!.........
My Nomad is perfectly happy to be pedalled about. Weighs in about 33lb without any silly light build stuff. Works great.
I have an Alpine (for sale!) and I find it a bit lardy and the bottom bracket is too low.
It's great pointing down stuff but not so much fun (IMO) on the ups.
Trek Remedy? Mine pedals OK for a 6-incher, hard work, for sure, but I can ride up all the stuff I would do on my XC bike without needing to get off and push.
DrRS****
let me guess.. you're not in sales are you?
G 🙂
Nomads rule. I've got two. I love 'em.
Chumba VF2, just fitted a Cane Creek Double Barrel to mine and it is a bit good 🙂
2010 Pitch Pro?
let me guess.. you're not in sales are you?
Nope 🙂
Just my honest opinion on the bike. Plenty of people love 'em. I've always preferred a slightly higher BB is all.
Had the same issue with my Demo 8. Lovely bike, but I was forever clouting the ground with pedals as the BB was low.
spesh enduro carbon
27 lbs
Blur LT mk 2
Turner 5 spot
Tracer
Reign
Cannondale prophet/rise
sorry out of the list
heckler
or spicy
Got me an 09 spicy frame a few months back. Climbs better than the 5 it replaced and descends like a mini dh bike. Only problem i have with it is it can make some flatter/undulating trail feel boring as its long and slack (although you'll probably get this with most bikes in this catagory).
Theres probably not much in it with the frames youve chosen...
Easy, Pronghorn Trail. We've got a demo in that weighs around 27lb and is better than my steel hardtail on the climbs. That's with 150mm of travel too.
spesh enduro carbon 27 lbs
+1
I love my Enduro SL carbon... superb bike 🙂
Nomad with 36 talas here. Reckon I could get it under 30lb with a change of tyres (2.5 HRs) and crankset, but I'm waiting till they pack up.
It's a great bike you wont be disappointed.
Another vote for the Spesh Enduro or Pitch here.
What about a Giant Reign or a TranceX, though?
DrRS**** got any details on the Alpine? Saw a guy riding the red route at dalby on an orange one, and was quite taken with it....
Mail in profile.
Antyone got any experiences of the new transition covert?
Are they even for sale in the UK yet? Can't seem to find one.
DrRS**** how much is your alpine up for?
Seeing as you have a Heckler on that list, you should consider a Orange 5 also.
A supremely capable bike and incredibly versatile depending on how its built up. Abit of a marmite bike though.
Heckler. Just put Van 36's on the front. A bit wandery on the climbs put dead good coming down.
575
Easy, Pronghorn Trail. We've got a demo in that weighs around 27lb and is better than my steel hardtail on the climbs. That's with 150mm of travel too.
+1
plus one for the Remedy, or a fuel ex if you want less travel
DrRS****...I don't suppose you fancy an Ellsworth Moment, higher BB than the Alpine(med 06) in PX for your Alpine frame ❓ assuming the Apine is a med
Not wanting to hijack the thread - if anyone is interested in the Alpine email me for details
drrs**** AT yahoo dot co dot uk
I'll ping details and photos out to anyone interested.
what 6"ish all mountain light enough to pedal?
Answer,
Yeti 575
Climbs like an athletic mountain goat, my build is just over 28lbs
Intense Tracer VP is the best technical climbing bike I've owned and ridden.
you can probably get a really good deal on an 09 Enduro SL at the moment, with the new one just out. Love mine.
N O M A D!!!!!!!
575 or Ibis MOJO or Nicolai Helius AM
As you have the Heckler up in your list
Then go for the Orange 5 AM with the Upgrades.
Well, ive just got a mongoose khyber, and i'm looking forward to building it up now... THey are meant to be really good.
Another one for the Tracer, its the best bike I've ever ridden, I'm only a wee chap and it climbs better than any other bike I've owned (there's been lots). Mine has 36's as its too steep with a 140mm fork and I leave it in the 140 setting at the back, it weighs just over 28lbs with mostly XT stuff and Mavic ST wheels. Wheelbase have them in their demo fleet, its best to try as many as you can first.
Hope this helps.
grantway I wish you'd change the f***ing record.
Every single what bike? thread you're there telling us how good your 5 is.
Jesus.
Sorry for the outburst chaps.
Carry on normal jogging.
I'd like to know how the Cube Fritzz handles uphill. 160mm travel.
I'm with Backhander....
Grantway....try reading posts before typing 🙄 Look what i wrote.
I too own a 5 but am well aware of it's faults/negatives and don't expect everyone to share my opinions.
How can an 'All Mountain' bike not be light enough to pedal uphill?
Categories like this are nonsense.
Pace 405 it's the bollox
456 Ti with Fox 36 talas's on big volume tyres - no one said it couldn't be a HT!
I'm looking at the new Corsair Marque. Low BB and slack head angle, it's 130mm rear travel (single pivot) and takes 130mm to 160mm forks. It builds to around 32lbs. MBR mags first impressions on a short test ride was all thumbs up, but I haven't seen any proper tests yet. A low BB makes the bike very stable and confidence inspiring especially on techy stuff. Pedal strikes are always an issue on low BB bikes, but the trade off out weighs IMO. I'm trying to find a demo bike at the moment.
Another vote for the Nomad here.
been some issues with the corsair marques chain tunnel and the idler pulley system, reported by owners in the u.s. leading to a lot of owners getting rid of theirs at a huge loss
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=389800
nice looking bike though
Whats in an inch?
I just took my 5 to innerleithen and all i was missing was my 36's
5 AM gets my vote for UK trail riding.
Good point - but there's no bumps higher than 5" at Inners
Good point but i was thinking about the downhill course.
Its a no brainer !
Yeti 575 even with 160 mm forks climbs very well
I just got an Alpine with Talas's on it. I know it won't climb as fast as my old Stumpy FSR, but at least I can now hammer it back down and do some drops and jumps without it squirming everywhere, and it's a damn sight lighter than my old Patriot. I'll just have to get a bit fitter.
Backhander the 5 AM is a bloody good bike
What do I say Buy a scooter 🙄
LOL try a Mondraker Dune
Marin Wolf ridge - last years models are an absolute bargain at the mo. alot of bike for the money...
and very fun to ride.
Backhander the 5 AM is a bloody good bike
So good you were trying to sell yours a bit ago? 😉
I can recommend the Pitch/Enduro too - no problems getting up big hills in the Lakes on my Pitch.
+1 Yeti 575
Tracer VP - as said in earlier posts its a superb all round bike. Mine is built on the lighter side with Float 32 140, XT/XTR and Stans 355's. Comes in around 26.5lbs.
Obviously will depend on budget though........
i would like a Knolly, not ridden one or seen one other than mags/website but just fancy one!!
Iron Horse - 6.6 or even a 6.4 with the DW link.
One of the bargains of the year at Evans - £999.00 - Change the wheelset though - must weigh 20lb by themselves, probably to accomodate the average American rider....
Hemlock?
(the pitch is an awesome bike, but built for tall people with short legs)
Titus El Guapo.
Better than the Intense 6.6 and the Nomad I had before. Also much better than the Spicy, Remedy and Orange's that I've test ridden.
LOL Grumm yer so good I decided to keep it
and had it resprayed !
So yep Orange 5 AM 😉
I can pedal up most things on my SX trail, however its not fun! Had a demo on a Lapierre Spicy 916 and it was completely different.
Alpine 160 here. No problems pedaling but would happily go a bit heavier for the downhill buzz. I'm flat out with a double and bash and not at the bike's limit. If you want it for the downs more than the ups you won't be disappointed.
the pitch is an awesome bike, but built for tall people with short legs
I'm short with short legs and it fits me just fine. It is pretty long but I can't say it's ever been a problem.
Whilst the 5 is great, the only thing "AM" about it is the bloody fork and a double and bash chainset! otherwise it's just a great trail bike.
I love mine but would happily swap for a Spicy or a Tracer both of which are better bike IMO.
I cant see the need for anything beyond a 5 or zesty for UK riding unless you're the ugly side of 14 stone. Its hard enough to push an out and out xc bike to it's limits short of Fort Bill or Inners. A fuel ex 7 served me fine in Morzine/Les Gets this Summer but then I don't like the tank-like point and go of a DH bike.
+1 Intense Tracer - Best bike I've ever ridden uphill or down
456 Ti with Fox 36 talas's on big volume tyres - no one said it couldn't be a HT!
+1
Just get the Spicy, you know you want one....
mafiafish, what if you were the wrong side of 14st?
Ahem, out of curiosity you understand.
A fuel ex 7 served me fine in Morzine/Les Gets this Summer but then I don't like the tank-like point and go of a DH bike.
Dude you must have been battered to shit. And big bikes are only tank like when they're going slowly!
Its hard enough to push an out and out xc bike to it's limits short of Fort Bill or Inners
Really! I think you're speaking for yourself there.
Nomad
im hankering after the spicy too.....just wish you could buy a frame only
Remedy
One of these: http://www.flickr.com/photos/36888467@N08/4043654108/sizes/l/
About 32lbs and pedals very nicely indeed.
My Chumba XCL is a pretty handy 6" bike I can pedal it up hill and have a big grin on the way down, is nimble through the twisty bits and composed and confident on the rough ideal really.
I ride my Turner 6-Pack all day, up and down anything that's there. They don't do the Ht version anymore but I think the DW link one isn't too far away. Be interesting to see what people make of that.
Ibis Mojo?
i've had a nomad for 2yrs and there's nothing around that I would change it for at the moment.
None of the bikes listed above are bad bikes. I think once we all get the 'new bike syndrome', especially with your own set up, that then automatically is the best bike ever. Until I buy something else that is....
If money's an issue, a discounted Reign (and then maybe upgrade bits) could be a good option.
I've got one and it does just what you describe pretty well.
Blur LT2 - 5.5" travel - light and efficient enough for XC, but strong enough for doing 3 to 4 foot drops all day (not me I might add). Can't explain, but it just feels right. You can put 160 forks on it if you want more bounce for downhill stuff
Nomad with Fox 36 TALAS without a doubt. Still going strong after 2 years with no problems whatsoever.