[Closed] Use of the word "Attack" in mtbing - wtf?

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In the attack position, it's easier for me to reach for my sword/gun, or cover myself with my shield.

Obvious isn't it.....
😉

DrP

I get into the attack position before some high octane action

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I remember the BBC once described a debate as high octane...... please.

Maybe the participants had been sniffing high octane fuel. Would kind of explain a few things.

While 'attack' might not be the best word I ride lots of different ways. Sometimes mincing, sometimes plodding, sometimes just riding along, every now then I really put some effort in. It is all riding but its not all the same.

It's just a state of mind using language like that, means your pumped and ready to ride 😛

[i]no attacking involved whatsoever[/i]

Well clearly you're not riding *aggressive* XC then like the marketing men tell you you should be. In fact your riding might be termed Jey-Lite-Bimblecore...

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Here is what one might call a classic 'attack' position.

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Crazy_legs - marketing men are somewhere between politicians and bankers in my book.

Is that pic at the top of leith hill....

It's the hill at Monterey - so might as well be

"hard hitting" is my current favourite.

Sorry <hangs head in shame> When you're a beginner and you're just pootling along and then ahead of you, you see a rocky bit that you're currently going too slowly to get over, so you turn your cranks a bit quicker to increase your speed to get over the obstacle, so you don't stop half way and topple sideways. What do you call that?

[i]What do you call that? [/i]

"Riding a bike"
or (if it all goes wrong)
"Crashing"

Simples. 😉

What you are having trouble with here is the concept of [b]metaphor[/b]. It makes our language wonderful, you should try using it sometime.

Attacking means trying extra hard on something in the short term. The word is used to evoke ferocity and determination.

Molgrips, it is you that is having difficulty with the idea of a metaphor. You remind me of a pube on the toilet bowl. 😉

Don't make me invoke Dunning Kruger again jimmy!

LOL at Crazy Legs.

molgrips - It would be the perfect illustration for my metaphor if you did. Maybe wait a while though, just like a stubborn pube would do.

Maybe wait a while though, just like a stubborn pube would do.

I fail to see your point re metaphors. So by admitting my incompetence I am exempt from Dunning Kruger. So there, work that one out

To be fair I can remember the term being used to describe riding by the likes of Tomac and Herbold "Back in the Day" so it's hardly a new phenomenon....
I can't see that mush wrong with it, to me it describes a committed, aggressive riding style... Seems like a reasonable concise description to me...

big sign up at kirroughtree skills area shows you the "attack position" 🙂

Molgrips - being a skilled person I too am exempt from Dunning Kruger.

Less of a mouthful than the "be prepared for whatever may be position"?

To be in attack position you just have to be really into what you are doing and you subconsciously look the part. Whereas most software developers slouch I once saw one in attack position just like the rider above.

You remind me of a pube on the toilet bowl.

That's just classic!!! pmsl

To be fair I can remember the term being used to describe riding by the likes of Tomac and Herbold "Back in the Day" so it's hardly a new phenomenon....

And even further back in the day it was a term used by the great David Bailey*. 😉

* [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bailey_%28motocross%29 ] clicky[/url]

You remind me of a pube on the toilet bowl.

Slight rip off of Red Dwarf there...

This is quite clearly an issue of perspective.

You are a weekend warrior at a trail centre.

You think you be "attacking the trail"
To a more experienced rider; you are "mincing"
To the casual passer by; you are "falling off"
As you tell your mates afterwards; you were "hooning*"

* may be replaced with "owning"

p.s. jimmyshand - that is quite clearly a simile. Back to school for you.

Oh - I sense that this may be the beginning of the end for the aforementioned pube. Are we talking walk to the toilet or unzipping point though?

JonT - there is a mixture of simile and metaphor up there

Sorry, should have been clearer

You remind me of a pube on the toilet bowl

Ok. English always was a weak subject of mine. But then so was pedantry. 🙄

my wife did spinning, as far as i know the attack position would be bum off the seat and body leaning forward over the bars as to simulate attacking a hill climb,

I "careen" more than "attack"

geetee +1 It's getting into the mindset whereupon you get your head over the bars and feel no fear on a descent. Or even if you do, you do it anyway.

When I started my abortive career in snowboarding, my instructors were forever telling me to "...attack the hill". It took me a while, but there is something about putting your head before the rest of your body which; a) inspires massive, high-pitched-singing fear and b) once you're used to it, feels utterly natural and generates confidence.

Poised and committed to overcome all obstacles.

How'd I do?

The problem with sports where there is fear involved (like mountain biking) is that when there is a scary obstacle coming up, many people fall into a defensive position. They will back away from the scary stuff, and bring their elbows and knees in. This makes it really hard to handle a bike down technical stuff.

If you instead learn to get yourself into an "attack" position, where you force yourself to go in staying centered on the bike, with your elbows up and knees out, you will be far stronger and have much more control over the bike.

Attack is simply a word that invokes the feeling of what you are doing on the bike.

Poised and committed to overcome all obstacles.

How'd I do?

Disappointingly correct.

Also a specific posture on the bike, weight centred, off the saddle, arms and legs pre-bent, etc. etc.

Ideally, you want neither fight nor flight mode. A calm, controlled, committed state of mind is much more powerful. Knowing when to elevate the level of concentration and commitment is vital, but that's not the same as going into "Attack" mode.

Sometimes still shots of downhill riders are misleading - if it's a fast section they [i]may[/i] merely be head down in an attack crouch for aero reasons. Plus, even if they are in an "attack" position, doesn't mean they are full of aggressive thoughts inside their helmet.

Attack is simply a word that invokes the feeling of what you are doing on the bike.

Careful, you are in danger of going against the new trend of extreme literalism that seems to be appearing on STW 🙂

Attack ATTACK attackattackattack AAAAAAAAAAAAAtack

I like that word. What's wrong with it? What's a better word then for those times you give more than you've got to challenge the terrain?
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