[Closed] UK MTB Hall of Fame. Who would you put/lock up in it?

Geoff Apps

[url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoff_Apps ]Geoff Apps[/url]
Tim Gould
Nick Craig
Zak Tempest
[url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mint_Sauce_(cartoon_strip) ]Mishun H Sugworth[/url]

Hora. Peaks hucking legend, Bike car park testing God. fork F****r. All round top bloke 😀

JMC
nick craig
peaty
tim gould
elbry (ha!)

JMC
Steve Peat
Mr Crud
Derek Purdy

Jason mcroy, after all he was inducted into the british cycling hall of fame in 2009 along with 49 other riders

David Baker.

also a very very tough little scottish bloke i have had the pleasure of riding with a few times.
not a mtb rider in our sense of the word, but he has ridden more offroad miles than most of us lot put together.

George Berwick

Nick Craig
Tim Gould
David Baker
Jason McRoy
Chipps
Any/all of the Athertons
Annie Last
Steve Peat
Tim Flooks (bit of an outside one that but he's been on the MTB scene since it started, former National Champion and I believe is now the only person to have done all the Mountain Mayhems (all on the same bike!))

Doddy?.......................... Only joking!

danny hart & rob warner & nigel page - surely for the 2011 world champs combo

Tym Manley
Chris Turner
Drew Lawson
Jeremy Torr
Max Glaskin
John Stevenson
JMC
Derek Purdy
Graham Longstaff
Lester Noble
Steve Wade
Gordon Green

gordon green once sold me some black sheep that was 2 yrs out of date.
i still drank it tho....... 😀

Tracy Moseley?

the obvious

tim gould
nick craig
david baker
jmc

the not so obvious

gary foord
tim manly
nick crane
gary coltman

GW?

John Tomac
Missy Giove (Hall of Infamy more like)
Barry Clark
Danny Hart
Steve Peat
Danny Mac
Sam Pilgrim
Cedric Gracia
Fabien Barel
The Athertons

Lols at Konastoner

Singlespeedstu
[s]theSwede[/s]
Me

Schmoo

😥

The guys from Pace circa 1995

+1 geoff apps, coz I had a part in making his first prototype bike...many years ago.

TheSwede 😀
Phoewl Jeowlfs

Those not mentioned above unless my eyesight fails me.
Caroline Alexabder
Deb Murrel
Sally Hibberd
Richard Thackery
Paul Lasenby
Karen Van Meerbeck
Dave Hemming
Pete Tomkins
Warner for being first UK world Cup race winner

Mild Dyke

Malcolm Fearon (MTB photographer)

Tracy Moseley
Steve Peat
Rob Warner

From the World of DH

Leave the XC to you lot

Hope and Orange

Is there an internet arguing section?

trail fairies

Tim gould
David Baker
Nick Craig
Sally hibberd
Deb murrell
Dave hemming
Jason mcroy
Rob Warner
Tracey mosely
Steve peat
Tim manley
John Stevenson
Caroline Alexander
The athertons
Danny hart
Martin Ashton
Tim flookes

Others?

Tim davies
Paul lazenby
Fred salmon
Nigel page
Will Longdon
Thé ex kiwi WHO raced for raleigh in thé early years?
Etc etc

the forgotten people.........

all the non commercial race/ event organisers who create the events that define the sport out of a love biking and making something happen with thinking what is in it for them

and the people who volunteer their time to marshal and help make these events happen

the people who introduce others to riding bikes off the road

Why does Danny Hart keep cropping up?

He's won 1 race not exactly setting the bar high for Hall of Fame is it.

Most of the people on this thread are just were fast. The point is to name people who have played a major part in the development of the sport. Pat Adams isn't going to be in there because it's him organizing it and he's not egotistical.

I think the only people I'd go 100% for are:
JMC
Tym Manley
Peaty

After that, other suggestions:
Helen Mortimer
The Orange guys
The Pace guys
The Hope guys
Steve Worland
Rankin and Spasic
Oli Bec

mikewsmith - Member

Why does Danny Hart keep cropping up?

He's won 1 race not exactly setting the bar high for Hall of Fame is it.

It's a couple more than one race...
For example winning every NPS race in a season for his category. Twice.
Junior world cup champ also.
http://www.rootsandrain.com/rider795/danny-hart/results/

But yes you wouldn't put him in ahead of the likes of Steve Peat. He needs a few more years yet.

Also if you look at it like that Gee Atherton hasn't won a lot either. 1 world champs and 3 world cup rounds in 9 years as an Elite.

Friend Wood
Andy Powell

Another vote for Steve Worland - bullshit free, easily understood, sensible advice.
Jo Burt.
Dafydd Davis.

"Friend Wood", I was trying to remeber his second name.
Drew Lawson, in the UK early days, the terms Mountain Bike and Muddy Fox were interchangeable.

Some alternatives

Schmoo (Maurice Levenson)
Rory Hitchins
Martyn Salt

Vic Barnet - double world champ 😉

Suprised Emma Guy and Tracy Brunger haven't been mentioned and Daffyd Davis (probably spelt that wrong)

And Tim Flooks

I immediately thought of the innovators:

Chas Roberts / Overbury Cycles - original steel frame pioneers
Adrian Carer and his then partner from Pace - for their box section frames and carbon fibre forks
Jon Whyte - Whyte bikes
The guys behind Hope
Lester Wade - Orange

And then I thought of people who helped to get the "scene" going:

Tim Manley - founder of MBUK, along with contributors such as Zak/Brant, Chipps, Steve Worland et al.
Schmoos Cycles (who ran a massive team in the late eighties)
The chap who started the Cheddar Challenge
etc.

Dafydd Davis
Rob Warner
Peaty
JMC
Tym Manley and Jon Stevenson from the early days of MBUK, I think we under estimate how influential that publication was in the early days.
Isla Rowntree
Tim Gould
David Baker
Jo Burt

I think Zak Tempest should get an invite too!

Jason Mcroy
Steve Worland
Brant Richards
Steve Peat
and deus makes a good point with Daffyd Davis
Keith Bontrager ( he's nearly British)

[b]I hope that the organisers of this site "Pacific Edge Events" have thought through the pitfalls of putting together a Hall of Fame.
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At best it could be a repository for documenting our sport and its history. At worst it would be a mouthpiece for the uninformed opinion and the biased views of pressure groups.

The US MTB-HoF has avoided most of these pitfalls but has a very US centric view of mountain biking.

Perhaps Wikipedia is the best place for documenting historic events and people of importance as you have to cite the sources of your information so that it can be vetted by others?

Even the knowledgeable writers of Singletrack magazine sometime get their facts wrong. For example in issue 73 they described Wes Wiliams as the "original big wheel evangelist" When in fact the obscure 700c Finnish Hakkapeliitta tyres used on his "Rock & Road" bicycles from 1988 had been first used by Geoff Apps on his 700c Range-Rider bicycle in 1981. The same year that Apps sent his big Hakkapeliittas to the NorCal pioneers who built frames to fit them. Joe Murray's and Bruce Gordon's own "Rock and Roll tyres being Far East made Hakkapeliitta copies.

Earlier in the same issue an article on the newly emerging 650b wheel size also made no mention of Geoff Apps using 650b x 54mm wide tyres from 1979 0nwards.

[b]So popularist voting itself is unlikely to recognise and reward the worthy.[/b]

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[url= ]Letter from Charlie Kelly and Gary Fisher [/url]

Danny Macaskill? While not necessarily 'winning races' he's done a lot to further the awareness of riding mountain bikes to the wider public.

[b][u]The inaugural 12 inductees to the new UK Mountaiin Bike Hall of Fame have been announced[/u]
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[b]The inaugural members are:[/b]
Jason McRoy,
Barrie Clarke,
Caroline Alexander,
David Baker,
Martyn Salt,
Helen Mortimer,
Tim Flooks,
Steve Peat,
Tracy Moseley,
Rob Warner,
Tim Gould and
Nick Craig.

“These guys are all at the top of the tree in the UK mountain biking world," said Patrick Adams and Jill Greenfield of Pacific Edge Events."

[b]In the run up to today's launch they also said:[/b]
"We have created the UK MTB Hall of Fame as a way of showing [b]respect for everyone in the mountain bike industry, be they riders or people connected in other ways,"[/b] said Patrick Adams, director of Pacific Edge Events".

[b][u]If so, why have a list of initial inductees that is restricted of racers and race organisers?[/u][/b]

[b]Where are the pioneers?[/b] (Not all the early mountain bike pioneers were American)
[b]Where are the mountain bike' engineers, designers and inventors?[/b]
[b]Where are the entrepreneurs and industrialists[/b] who founded the UK mountain bike companies?
[b]The journalists who popularised our sport?[/b]
[b]The advocates of mountain biking[/b] who set up riding centres and worked hard for improved land access, mountain bike friendly trail policies and responsible rider ethics.
[b]The adventurists[/b] who rode the world pushing the boundaries of what can be ridden on a mountain bike and in doing so helped publicise the fledgling sport?

[b]Is this a serious attempt to create a meaningful "Hall of Fame" that tells the story of all areas of UK mountain biking? Or just a poorly thought through publicity stunt for the organisers of Mountain Mayhem? [/b]

Is this a serious attempt to create a meaningful "Hall of Fame" that tells the story of all areas of UK mountain biking? Or just a poorly thought through publicity stunt for the organisers of Mountain Mayhem?

Well you've got to start somewhere. The above are (mostly) names that (most) people will have heard of.
While most MTBers have heard of brands like Orange and MBUK, I'm willing to bet that only the most obsessive will know that Lester Noble and Steve Wade were the two guys behind it way back in 1988 or that Tym Manley was the long term editor of MBUK (along with editing a couple of porn publications...). Having a Hall of Fame where you need to explain who's in it kind of goes against what you're trying to achieve!

Start with 12 well known names now and you can get people talking about it, generate some interest and maybe next year when another 12 names are added there'll be people in there like Rory Hitchins, Lester Noble, Tym Manley.

So [b][u]who[/u][/b] would [u]you[/u] [b]miss out[/b] from [u][b]that[/b][/u] list [i]Graeme[/i] (mudrider)?

Danny Mc Askill
Jo Cardwell
Ashley smith
Jenn Hopkins
WCA

"So who would you miss out from that list...." (Brant)

That's not for me to say. The question is that if this is to be a [u]UK Mountain Bike Racing Hall of Fame[/u] it should be named as such. But it is to be called the "UK Mountain Bike of Fame" then it should also include luminaries from non-racing disciplines.

[b]What is the long term purpose of this particular hall of fame?[/b] Is it to simply list those who are already well known and celebrated? Or could it have a wider role, like the US MTBHoF, in also celebrating people who were not well known but very influential. And in so doing document the entire history of UK mountain biking.