Well that was unexpected!
If Tracey had got straight back up and got back in the gas she'd have got it, that's gonna rankle for the off-season.
Bring on the men, could be carnage 😀
Sam hill down and safe 332
How long will Hill be in the top step is the question. I reckon until the top 10.
What was going on with the top women? Hardly any of them from the top 7 up made it down without an issue. Great to see a Canadian in the stripes though!
Right I'm up , spoilers from here ?
Seemed the dust caught loads out, same will happen with the men.
Cheering in the not worthy come on Sam
Damn mussed the women - the bottom pedaly section isnt great viewing - wanting Hill to hold out for as long as possible
Great to see Mick happpy with that
Yeah mick !
Hill lasted to the top 30, now how long can he stay on the podium?
Mick was flying!
Is everyones red Bull not actually showing the race? It's there and says it's live but when I click on it I'm only seeing a show on rodeo stuff?
Bbc commentary is painful
RedBull working fine for me! The link was buried in the XCO replay option when I clicked on.
Red bull good for me on android TV app , had to hunt for it a bit though
Hmm. The links there and I can click on it but it just displays a different show
Edit: got it now. The main "watch live" button wasn't linking properly but if I scrolled to the replay options below then went to the right there was another watch live button that has worked
Shame but not sure this course makes for the most exciting racing
They are saying the women's result has been changed 😯
Women's result changing?
No matter what happens now it's top ten for hill , pretty impressive stuff
Hills run was amazing, really good to see him throwing the little bike about, hope he gets a medal.
Hope mick wins it, he deserves it with that run.
EDIT: or not...
No medal for Hill.
Ooh Greg ! Just lost my red bull feed !!!!!
Beeb working
Yeah red bull failed here. Happened a lot this year!
Mine's back!
Missed Gwin's run.
Myriam now second not Tracey in the women's?! What changed that?
Well that's that , would of liked to seen mick hang on . Never noticed before but impressive eye brows from Bruni 😀
UCI just announced it was a timing issue with Tissot for Miriam. WTF i thought when she was 40 sec down without falling but as the coverage was poor who knows what was going on at the top section off camera.
Hill finished 6th in the Elite mens, as a newcomer to watching DH WC how did that happen? Does it say more about the track not being very DH? The bike difference between DH and Enduro? Or the ability of riders in the "elite" mens at the moment? Or is Hill still that good even though it isn't his main discipline and the rest didn't matter?
TBH shit timing with splits not shown all the time, how can a UCI championship based on timing be off? Poor online viewing issues from RB dropping and the BBC was painful.
Still great to watch though 😀
Really pleased for Miranda, great to see her finally getting a result this year, and where it counted most! Hopefully that will give the boost for 2018 she needs. What happened to Tanhee? saw a reply of Tracey's crash, but she still managed 3rd?!?
Great to see Sam in the mix, what a rider. Shame for Greg though, that rear tyre again? Loic deserved the win, Mick's got to be gutted though...
To be fair to RedBull they had no control over the feed and they had to cobble this all together at very short notice.
As for the timing being wrong, that is unbelievable. They should have a double backup that correlates automatically. Having to rely on the rider saying it was wrong doesn't show well for Tissot.
I understand and you are correct they cobbled it together and the feed wasn't theirs, but to play devils advocate, the championship date and contracts could/should have been sorted long ago, is that really a reasonable excuse? Not technical with these things, but it seems to drop out more with the Mens, is that to do with online bandwidth or something? Not sure how it works but the BBC from the same feed didn't have the same issue?
As for the timing being wrong, that is unbelievable...
There's a triple back-up system, and it's the riders responsibility to raise a query if they think it's wrong.
Hill finished 6th in the Elite mens, as a newcomer to watching DH WC how did that happen? Does it say more about the track not being very DH? The bike difference between DH and Enduro? Or the ability of riders in the "elite" mens at the moment? Or is Hill still that good even though it isn't his main discipline and the rest didn't matter?
A lot of folk will say it's because it's not a real DH track and there is something in that though I don't think that much. I think it really boils down to Sam Hill being really good at riding a bike and being more used to his enduro bike - also enduro bikes are really very capable these days. He's on a confidence streak from the EWS and that counts for a lot as well.
Looking at the splits he didn't really make any time up on the pedally flat bit at the end.
Well that was all very disappointing
Yeah good point which is why it was even more special in the technical bits to be that quick i guess. So is the Enduro that capable or the factory DH bikes not that much better than a single crown Enduro? Could we see more Enduro single crown bikes putting riders in the top ten of the mens?
Loved that. Didn't love the RB feed switching to a ****ing episode of the Atherton Project from about 5 years ago just before Gwin's run... anyone else catch that? (I know they weren't responsible for the feed but it seemed like a RB fail to me) Stoked for Loic though, if it wasn't Gwin to take it- I'd want Loic to. Not patriotic I know but who gives AF.
Could we see more Enduro single crown bikes...
The Cairns track has a lot to with that TBH. If would be a different story at Vallnord or Ft William for instance
There's a triple back-up system, and it's the riders responsibility to raise a query if they think it's wrong.
Fair, but seems reasonable to expect the organisers or organisation involved to get the timing correct?
The Cairns track has a lot to with that TBH. If would be a different story at Vallnord or Ft William for instance
A question experts on here can help with though as i am still very new to this.
Wasn't SH quick in the very rocky stuff though and lost it on the flat climb or at least didn't pull away on the peddling bit? wouldn't that mean the bike was good at DH stuff or the DH bikes aren't that much better?
The commisiere's answer as to the SNAFU with the women's race was laughable. "There was an issue" great, solid insight there when we needed it most.
Wasn't SH quick in the very rocky stuff though and lost it on the flat climb or at least didn't pull away on the peddling bit? wouldn't that mean the bike was good at DH stuff or the DH bikes aren't that much better?
In my experience with DH rigs vs Enduro (with the caveat that I rarely ride a DH bike) is that they let you get away with stuff -if you ride precisely then the difference isn't huge. With tracks like Val Di Sole it's so steep that speeds get silly very quickly and it's full of blown out holes so the ability to plough straight down the rocks/holes is a big advantage. I'd recommend hiring a DH bike for a day - great fun and you can just smash it into stuff then pop out of the other side.
Today, SH went round the 'straight line' rock garden thing (only real 'rough looking' feature) but carried great speed into the next turn (interestingly the frenchies were doing the same) so made up for it. The course looked relatively hard packed other than the dust as well so the extra travel of a DH rig wasn't that necessary. But in general as i said - he's very good at riding a bike quickly.
With regards to hill it's a bit of both . Jared graves did the same thing in south africa a few years ago when he rode his enduro bike to bronze on a pedal heavy course .there is part of me that thinks if you can do that then the course isn't tough enough but that might be just me .
The whole thing felt a bit flat to me , not sure if it's just the bits that were shown but the course didn't make for the most exciting viewing or allow balls out sketchy runs from the likes of Greenland or brayton that make the harder world cups more exciting to watch , for me anyway.
£10 says Minaar retires.
where is it?
Wasn't SH quick in the very rocky stuff though...
Yes he was, but Cairns has only a few rocky sections and not much in the way of drops of big hits. If you've the leg and upper body strength, you can probably carry enough speed through one or two rough sections and muscle your bike to keep it on line. On a decent DH track though eventually you're going to run out of strength, which is where the added rigidity and that extra 20-30mm of travel on a DH bike is enough to help you hold the fast line, or compensate for arm pump, or save you on the heavy compression off the drop or road gap or big jump.
Thanks all, its difficult to see the whole track when they only place a few cameras, I just went back to watch practice head cam with Minaar and there isn't a great deal of rocky stuff. They said Hill had said he was tired at the end and had arm pump, was this probably a direct result of the Enduro not soaking it up like bloodsexmagik said?
