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I lay it on pedal and bar end plug, both of which get scuffed fairly easily anyway, but I don't look at either whilst riding, unlike my reservoir covers!
So you sacrifice those poor components so you can keep your grips in pristine condition? You animal!
I must admit I'll aim for a patch of grass if there is one. No point in scratching something if you can avoid it.
but the main thing is to get it sorted and get moving again, surely?
Just be careful and you won't cause any damage.
LOLs at the "my way is best" loons - on both sides.
It's what you are used to that seems best to you. Anytime I have to remove/refit a wheel in an upside down bike it takes me a while. I can do either on an upright one way more quickly - and I'd wager quicker than anyone who has to put the bike upside down.
It is a niche/snobbery mark of mechanics AFAIK. In my last one, if a punter came in and started to put his bike upside down, we'd all drop tools and do a slo-mo "whoa....." 😀
Happy days 😎
Is this thread for a bet?
Let me explain it for you simple folk, who don't seem to understand the principle of gravity.Assuming no stand, out on the trail.
Bike upside down = doesn't move, supported by bars and seat. Slot in wheel with hand. viola!
Bike right way up = moves about and needs supporting as one wheel is out of dropouts. Hold bike with one hand and fanny about trying to slot wheel into dropouts with other hand.
But *people who work in bike shops* do it differently! Argh I'm so confused now
People who work in bike shops are ninjas with 3 arms. everyone knows that.
Only in the bike shops that can't afford carpet.randomjeremy - Member
But *people who work in bike shops* do it differently! Argh I'm so confused now
But *people who work in bike shops* do it differently! Argh I'm so confused now
Mechanics do it in a stand, meaning you don't have to fanny about holding the bike while trying to slot the wheel in with the other hand.
What we are talking about is out on the trail. Turn the bike over and you don't have to hold it as it stays there. As if by magic!!
But *people who work in bike shops* do it differently! Argh I'm so confused now
Don't forget pro bike tour riders.
cynical - so its mainly about snobby oneupmanship, thought so.
grum - it has to be quicker though, once you are used to it. No need to turn bike upside down.
And I certainly don't take it that seriously.
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Bike right way up = moves about and needs supporting as one wheel is out of dropouts. Hold bike with one hand and fanny about trying to slot wheel into dropouts with other hand.
Bike right way up - hold it by wither saddle or bars, drop the fork end/dropout onto the wheel, shoogle a bit if nec, tighter/clamp, done.
Resting an unwheeled bike upright is no issue either, weight on mech or fork ends, leant against whatever, or on its side. No need for any damage.
always turned it upside down to fix a puncture - always have, always will and never had a problem.
Njee - you sound like a right ponce btw
If I turn my bike upside down I scratch/brake the computer/lights. So I don't. I have my mechanic fix it for me.
Dave you also sound like a right ponce
He would probably turn the bike upside down.I have my mechanic fix it for me.
grum - it has to be quicker though, once you are used to it. No need to turn bike upside down.
Yeah I guess it might shave a few ms off. Doesn't really matter unless you're racing though, and don't most racers run tubeless anyway.
Njee - you sound like a right ponce btw
Aaw, thanks!
Cynic-al +1
Always upside down for me. If I'm on the trail i always find some grass to lay it on so I don't scratch the shifters/brakes etc and if at car I have a sheet i lay under the bars to protect them. It's so easy this way I can't see the point of doing it any other way
5 pages ffs
Bike right way up - hold it by wither saddle or bars, drop the fork end/dropout onto the wheel, shoogle a bit if nec, tighter/clamp, done.
Even with the bolt through thing like on my Fox forks?
It is truly amazing, I didn't realise that bike snobbery/one upmanship could extend to how you change a puncture. Incredible.
grum - Member
Even with the bolt through thing like on my Fox forks?
Works for me...road bike, disc QR fork, 20mm fork too.
I think it all comes from wrenching and using stands - never working on an upside down bike.
Why you guys getting so many punctures anyway? Maybe if you guys reduced your pie intake, rode smoother, picked better lines and used appropriate pressures you wouldn't need to remove your wheel at all.
Deliberate troll cause this thread is silly.
This thread rocks.
Right way up, upside down, whatever floats your boat.
But being rude or looking down on people who do it the other way; incredibly sad.
I'm an upsidedowner fwiw...
It's so crap I might even upload a video...
I have been turning my bikes upside down to fix punctures/service them since I got my first bike when I was 11 (which is a LONG time ago). I can get a wheel into a road bike with it the 'right' way up if I have to, but trying to put in wheels with disc brakes on that way is a step too far for me, so upside down just makes sense. I have put a few marks on saddles and grips but, if I was really worried about damaging anything (say on my expensive road bike) I'd just put my gloves under those bits I wanted to protect while I fixed my bike.
Works for me...road bike, disc QR fork, 20mm fork too.
I can sort of see it being easy with a standard QR where the dropouts can just drop onto the wheel, but with Maxle or the Fox version you'd be having to balance the bike/wheel in exactly the right place while trying to fit in the axle.
Just seems to be making life difficult for yourself for no reason (apart from proving what a great mechanic you are, or being a tart about your bike), but each to their own.
And 'weight on mech'? Is that really a good idea?
what if you get a double flat?
pro's mechanics don't have to fix anything though do they. they're just changing the wheel.
It's like watchings rats trapped in a maze with no exit 😐
grum - the mech is well up to supporting the bike, as long as nothing silly happens.
And yes, putting the axle thru on teh 20mm fork is no bother.
Looks like I'll have to do a video...any "upside-downers" care to do the same?
I genuinely find it easier, but I've been doing it for 20+ years.
Dave you also sound like a right ponce
SIR, that, quite flagrantly, is in no way the case. It offends my very soul to hear such fallacy.
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Stupid thread. I pretty much always put the bike upside down to take the wheels in and out. I find it funny watching people scrabble to put the wheel in with the bike the right way up.
He would probably turn the bike upside down.
He is under strict instructions to simply destroy the bike and start again from scratch, so as to avoid the problem.
I say tom-a-to, you say tomato, etc....
+1 Terrahawk
I genuinely find it easier, but I've been doing it for 20+ years.
have you been repeating yourself yourself for 20 years?
Grow the _____ up, who cares!?
To be honest I don't feel like turning mine the right way up ever again.
5 pages ffs
Yep. It is amazing how people will argue with common sense and logic. I always forget that on STW people are right, even when they are talking complete bollocks.
I'm off to organise my sock draw.
Stepping off the back of the bike while it's still moving, raising bars and allowing the bike to roll through into a manual to upside down [u]has[/u] got to be as quick as what you're suggestong Al?
My outer lock on collars have no anodising left from riding and have no other shite attached to my bars to damage.
BMX = upside down
Roadie = Upright
IME only insecure little white sock wearing gimps will feel the need to verbally justify holding onto dated roadie rituals while riding mtbs off road.
ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod...I just looked at my Hope levers, and you wouldn't imagine the damage I have done to them over the last, ooh, SEVEN years...
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It bothered me so much I just went and got a permanent marker, and now its practically invisible 😀
ffs, if you flat, throw the bike away and get a new one. it's ruined. when did you last see a Pro Tour rider at the side of the road changing a tube? If you can't afford to do that, you shouldn't be riding a bike.
I'm not saying you should waste the old bike, you can maybe use unmarked bits for spares, but mostly once a bike's been ridden more than a few miles, it's only fit for the skip etc...
Fixed! Phew...no one will ever know...
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I just went and got a permanent marker, and now its practically invisible
prove it
EDIT: he did! 😀
Now all that will happen is when I turn the bike over, I will get permanent black smudges on the dining room carpet 😆
Doesn't everyone carry a rolled up piece of astroturf?
I always have a bit in the camelbak and my shifters are pristine even though I am a turner upside downer..
Mind you, since going tubeless 6 years ago I've only had two punchirs.
Would now be a good time to ask a stupid headset question?
spooky_b329 - That's hilarious and sums the thread up.
Good work 😆
Fixed! Phew...no one will ever know...
Quick, get 'em on the classifieds