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Didn't expect this thread to still be going when I got in from work. Any mention of Page 88 of Issue 73 yet?
FWIW I'm a bike flipper.
I can't believe this is still going on! If I'm not mistaken, I've not actually said anything 'snobby' about flippers, merely that I find it harder, and it's slower, and you risk damaging the bike.
Still, always nice to incur the wrath of half the forum!
GW - Member
Stepping off the back of the bike while it's still moving, raising bars and allowing the bike to roll through into a manual to upside down has got to be as quick as what you're suggestong Al?My outer lock on collars have no anodising left from riding and have no other shite attached to my bars to damage.
BMX = upside down
Roadie = Upright
IME only insecure little white sock wearing gimps will feel the need to verbally justify holding onto dated roadie rituals while riding mtbs off road.
Oh dear, you fix punctures in the middle of the trail? Isn't that the sort of thing [s]gnarly gobshites[/s] AWESOME riders like you hate?
Why is it you do the whole "I'm like this in real life" thing, but are perfectly polite to me in real life?
Why is it you do the whole "I'm like this in real life" thing, but are perfectly polite to me in real life?
Classic keyboard warriorism innit.
Well I didn't like to say...
I always turn my bike upside down to make sure its sitting on the bell end
"It is truly amazing, I didn't realise that bike snobbery/one upmanship could extend to how you change a puncture. Incredible."
I'm truly amazed how easy it is to take the p*** on here these days!
Throw in a few crass comments and its all handbags at dawn!
I've finish hiding from work, been out for a "proper" ride with "proper" riders on "proper" trails. (No bikes were harmed or intentionally inverted)
And you are still all upset.
I think theres only been one mention of troll back on the 1st page. Come on.
Fire in the hole boyz:-)
Where did I say anything about stopping in the middle of a trail? And for that matter, where above was I impolite to YOU?
You've only met/spoken to me once Al, you don't know me at all..
(IIRC you only said about 3 sentences).
Or was it the same one 3 times?
Only joking GW, its actually the curse of the internet, everyone does it.
I whip my bike upside down so I can scrub the wheels clean.
On concrete slabs.
Am I special enough yet 😀
BTW, resting the bike right side up on its derailleur is just so wrong to me. The chain and mech sitting in the dirt getting filled with mud and scratched up on rocks? Why? To save some £10 grips and a £50 saddle? Neither of which are mechanical things! Upside down seems much more mechanically sympathetic to me.
GW - Member
Stepping off the back of the bike while it's still moving, raising bars and allowing the bike to roll through into a manual to upside down has got to be as quick as what you're suggestong Al?
Doesn't imply stopping in the middle of the trail?
GW
IME only insecure little white sock wearing gimps will feel the need to verbally justify holding onto dated roadie rituals while riding mtbs off road.
Ah, so you phrased this with sufficient ambiguity (in your mind) to not be aimed at me? And you've never been impolite to me on here?
I know you talk like you are a good rider but I've never seen back-pedalling that fast.
GW - Member
You've only met/spoken to me once Al, you don't know me at all..(IIRC you only said about 3 sentences).
Ditto.
I'm truly amazed how easy it is to take the p*** on here these days!
Throw in a few crass comments and its all handbags at dawn!
I've finish hiding from work, been out for a "proper" ride with "proper" riders on "proper" trails. (No bikes were harmed or intentionally inverted)
And you are still all upset.
I think theres only been one mention of troll back on the 1st page. Come on.
Fire in the hole boyz:-)
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jesus. where is the button.
IME only insecure little white sock wearing gimps will feel the need to verbally justify holding onto dated roadie rituals while riding mtbs off road.
See now I assumed that was aimed at me, and was amused that GW was hurling pathetic insults around because I don't conform to his way of doing things. I'm just not awesome enough **sigh**
BMX = upside down
Roadie = Upright
IME only insecure little white sock wearing gimps will feel the need to verbally justify holding onto dated roadie rituals while riding mtbs off road.
Ahhh it makes sense now. Some archaic roadie bullshit that people cling to pretending that it is easier, when in fact it is an excuse so you don't get your bar tape dirty and scratch you levers. Give me strength.
I knew it couldn't be to do with common sense as those with an understanding of gravity can plainly see that it is logical to do it with the bike upside down.
Gravity works both ways you know, if you put the bike onto the wheel it'll fall into place, and be in straight. It's definitely not roadie bullshit, tis quicker and some find it easier, you presumably are not one of these people!
Nope I never stop on the mainline (comes from 20 yrs DH track etticate)
..and Not being the stalker you seem to be I didn't even know you had white socks or a gimp suit.
Sorry if I hurt your feelings 😉
lame 🙄
Just how long does it take you to turn a bike over? Unless of course your upper body is so under- developed that you have to wait for someone else to come along and help.
Upside down to remove, right way up to replace - just to be different.....
The only reason i wouldn't do mine upside down is due to the fork lockout on the bars (its only plastic), and air can work its way into the callipers, and i don't want to scuff my seat.
Is there another way than upside down? 😯
Unless of course your upper body is so under- developed that you have to wait for someone else to come along and help.
Hopefully not, because at least two people have said they refuse to help friends unless they turn their bike upside down. It seems that's the snobbery...
Gravity works both ways you know, if you put the bike onto the wheel it'll fall into place, and be in straight. It's definitely not roadie bullshit, tis quicker and some find it easier, you presumably are not one of these people
Yes, but you have to hold the bloody bike and hold the wheel at the same time! With the bike upside down the bike stays put and all you have to do is guide the wheel into the dropouts! One moving thing rather than two!
I cannot believe I am debating over something that is pure logic. 😕
maybe this has been answered, can't be bothered reading six pages, but what do you do with it once you have the wheel off if you've not flipped it? surely you don't lay it on the ground some other way, think of the damage! bent rear mechs, scratched chainstays 😯
see, she's cleverly rotated the bars so that the grips aren't touching the floor
Gravity works both ways you know
No it definitely always goes down.
It must take me all of half a second to flip my bike. I can't see how 1 second is going to hurt when I am mincing around Cannock Chase and it takes me about 3-5 mins to repair a puncture.
Oh noooo, iv found some scratches on my brakes from performing this act!
Never fear, I know some where I can sell them.
Generic pics to follow 😉
I've worked in bike shops and we also never turned the bikes upside down to work on them, BECAUSE WE HAD A ****ING BIKE STAND.
If you don't turn your bike upside down it's because you are a ****. How is that for sweeping generalisations, about as accurate as the cyclist vs people that ride bikes comment. Furthermore the shite about mechanical sympathy, I hate it when people use the wrong tool or something touches a stanchion etc. but moddy coddling your bike and being scared of scratching a lever is a completely different kettle of fish.
Give humans two choices, and they will argue for an eternity about which is the right one.
Next week - which side of the path do you cycle on?
Week after - Right or left for front brake lever?
Week three - ball or aerosol?
Fascinating, but we're all arguebotsnikk - Member
Give humans two choices
*taps screen*
are you ... a ... person ?
arguebots
Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer do
I'm half crazy, all for the love of you
It won't be a stylish marriage,
I can't afford a carriage
But you'll look sweet, upon the seat
Of a bicycle built for two*
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[i]* as long as you don't turn it upside down to fix punctures[/i]
Dave?
Look druidh, I can see you're really upset about this. I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over.
😯 Seven pages? [i]Seven?[/i] Dear God...
Seven pages is one thing.
Seven pages in nine hours? Dear oh dear.
pfffft.... imagine getting off to fix something, bunch of poofs.
but there again,there's the simple amazement to be had by flipping over and making it go as fast as you can without hurting someone (dont even kid on you've never done it)
this has to be the most desperately depressing thread I've ever read on here.
Get. A. Life.
This in an exciting example of just how low this forum has stooped. I am actually astounded that people care even remotely enough to argu about it. As above:
Get. A. Life.
Initiate bike stands up on its own device - Flip
Personally - I find that on the current bike (2001 FSR running an SLX rear mech) it's easier to locate the wheel upside down, right the bike, back off the skewer so that the hub locates properly in the dropout, then tighten.
Although I'm more than happy if people put the wheel in with the bike the other way up so they don't scratch anything - more aesthetically pleasing second-hand parts... 😆

